Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>Achha</i>, because he called me yesterday... day before... he actually was in London, he just met my daughter, he asked me are you also there? I said, don't be silly <i>yaar</i>. <i>Achcha</i>. So he's lobbying against Raja for Maran?
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Niira Radia: <i>He's making a mistake because woh Cabinet mein Telecom to siraf Raja ke paas jayega.</i> [In this Cabinet, Telecom is only going to go to Raja]
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: But tell me - ah, how is the PM reacting? Because till this morning...
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Niira Radia: PM has said nothing on this - it's just Navika Kumar who has gone overboard on the say-so of Virat Bhatia, vis a vis Maran and Sunil Mittal.
Niira Radia: He is, but the Old Man's got stuck. I'll tell you what he did. He's sent five names to Congress on Monday, which was Railways for Maran, Power for Baalu, Telecom for Raja, Surface (transport) for Azhagiri...
Niira Radia: 'cause one is committing suicide in one house, another is committing suicide in another house. And I would have thought that the Congress would have been a bit more smarter, by not pushing Dayanidhi Maran's case forward themselves.
Niira Radia: He needs to bring him into the Cabinet.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: No, and plus everyone else will say <i>saale khaalii apne parivar ko de diya aur kisii kaa kuchh kiyaa nahii...</i> [Everyone will say you took your share, gave it to your family and as for everyone else...]
Niira Radia: <i>Haan, aur Raja uskaa aadmi hain.</i> [Yes, and Raja is his man] All the sons like him, everybody likes him, amenable hain to the party and most trusted aadmii hai. <i>Usko kaun nikalenge?</i> [Who will remove him?]
Niira Radia: <i>Woh jo bhi karle, Sunil Mittal jo bhii kar le, usko koi nahi nikalenge.</i> [Let him do anything. Nobody will remove him.] To which Karunanidhi told Ghulam Nabi Azad, Raja will be my Telecom IT Minister, Prime Minister said I have no problem with that.
Niira Radia: When all the blitz was going on, yesterday I spoke to Karunanidhi, I said why are you doing this?
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Mmm.
Niira Radia: <i>Sunil ka naam tho aa hi gaya.</i> [Sunil's name came up]
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Mmhmm.
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Niira Radia: A lot of people don't want him, and all that, this that and the other. Then I made Barkha call up Congress, and get a statement from Congress whether the Prime Minister had actually said he doesn't want Baalu and...
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yeah, yeah.
Niira Radia: She carried that he had never said it.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yes, I read that.
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Niira Radia: Now the Congress has issued another statement saying that they're not talking, they never really talked about people.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Mm mm.
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Niira Radia: The problem is that Azhagiri is a pretty large, big leader from the South.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yeah.
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Niira Radia: You know he himself carries a lot of weight in the party.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Niira Radia: (inaudible) Baalu <i>aur</i> Raja <i>ko keh raha thaa</i> that if Baalu and Raja get Cabinet, I have no problem getting MoS.
Niira Radia: And the problem is that... But Congress is stupid - they should have just given a message very very clearly, and not.... Karunanidhi thought that -