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body {
background: #000;
color: #ccc;
font-size: 14px;
}
.container {
margin-bottom: 8px;
}
.title {
color: #D7FF00;
cursor: pointer;
}
.counter {
color: #18E300;
font-size: 12px;
font-weight: bold;
}
.time {
}

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import codecs
def JSONtoHTML():
data = json.loads(open("radia.json").read())
html = ''
counter = 1
for d in data:
html += '<div class="container" data-name="%s" data-padma="%s">' % (d['name'], d['hid'],)
html += '<div class="title"><span class="counter">%d&gt;</span> %s</div>' % (counter, d['title'],)
html += '<div class="time">%s</div>' % (d['dt-time'],)
html += "</div>"
counter += 1
indexFile = codecs.open("index.html", mode="w", encoding="utf-8")
header = open("header.html").read()
footer = open("footer.html").read()
indexFile.write(header)
indexFile.write(html)
indexFile.write(footer)
indexFile.close()
def do():
f = codecs.open("ChronoArr_Srt.txt", mode="r", encoding="utf-8")
data = json.loads(open("radia.json").read())
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print title
indexHtml += "<a target='_blank' href='%s'>%s</a><br />Time: %s<br/>\n" % (outfile, title, time,)
indexHtml += "<a target='_blank' href='http://pad.ma/%s'>View on Padma</a><br />\n" % (padmaId,)
audioHtml = "<audio controls='controls' src='wav/%s' preload='none'></audio><br /><br />\n\n" % (audioFile,)
# audioHtml = "<audio controls='controls' src='wav/%s' preload='none'></audio><br /><br />\n\n" % (audioFile,)
print audioHtml
indexHtml += audioHtml
out = codecs.open(outfile, mode="w", encoding="utf-8")
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out.close()
counter += 1
indexFile = codecs.open("index.html", mode="w", encoding="utf-8")
header = open("header.html").read()
footer = open("footer.html").read()
indexFile.write(header)
indexFile.write(indexHtml)
indexFile.write(footer)
indexFile.close()
f.close()

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$(function() {
$('.title').click(function() {
var $parent = $(this).parent();
if ($parent.find('.srtContainer').length > 0) {
$parent.find('.srtContainer').slideToggle();
return;
}
var name = $parent.attr("data-name");
var srtFilename = "srt/" + name + ".srt";
var audioFilename = "wav/" + name + ".wav";
$.get(srtFilename, {}, function(srt) {
var txt = srtToTxt(srt, 'tc');
var $txtContainer = $('<div />').addClass("srtContainer").data("srt", srt).hide()
var $audio = $('<audio />').attr("src", audioFilename).appendTo($txtContainer);
var $btnsContainer = $('<div />').addClass("btnsContainer").appendTo($txtContainer);
var $padmaBtn = $('<button />').addClass("padmaBtn").text("View on pad.ma").appendTo($btnsContainer);
var $srtBtn = $('<button />').addClass("srtBtn").text("View SRT").data("fmt", "srt").appendTo($btnsContainer);
var $tcBtn = $('<button />').addClass("srtBtn").text("View Time-coded Text").data("fmt", "tc").appendTo($btnsContainer);
var $txtBtn = $('<button />').addClass("srtBtn").text("View Plain Text").data("fmt", "txt").appendTo($btnsContainer);
var $srt = $('<pre />').addClass('srt').html(txt).appendTo($txtContainer);
$txtContainer.appendTo($parent).slideDown();
});
});
});
$('.padmaBtn').live("click", function() {
var padmaId = $(this).parents(".container").attr("data-padma");
window.open("http://powertapes.pad.ma/" + padmaId);
});
$('.srtBtn').live("click", function() {
var fmt = $(this).data("fmt");
var srt = $(this).parents(".srtContainer").data("srt");
var txt = srtToTxt(srt, fmt);
$(this).parents(".srtContainer").find(".srt").html(txt);
});
var srtToTxt = function(txt, fmt) {
if (fmt == 'srt') return txt;
var that = this;
var spans = [];
var cleaned = cleanNewlines(txt);
var srt = strip(cleaned);
var srt_ = srt.split('\n\n');
var s;
for(s in srt_) {
st = srt_[s].split('\n');
if(st.length >=2) {
var n = st[0];
var i = strip(st[1].split(' --> ')[0]);
var o = strip(st[1].split(' --> ')[1]);
var t = st[2];
if(st.length > 2) {
for(j=3; j<st.length;j++) {
t += '\n'+st[j];
}
}
var is = toSeconds(i);
var os = toSeconds(o);
spans[spans.length] = new Span(is, os, t, spans.length);
}
}
var out = '';
// var spans = this.spans;
for (span in spans) {
if (spans.hasOwnProperty(span)) {
var sp = spans[span];
// out += spanToTxt(sp, fmt);
if (fmt === 'tc') {
out += ms2npt(sp.tcInMs) + "\n";
out += sp.text;
out += "\n";
//If the outpoint of current span is equal to inpoint of next span, dont print out timecode, and just add the extra \n to go to next span.
if (span < spans.length - 1) {
var p = parseInt(span) + 1;
if (spans[p].tcInMs != sp.tcOutMs) {
out += ms2npt(sp.tcOutMs) + "\n\n";
} else {
out += "\n";
}
}
} else if (fmt == 'txt') {
out += sp.text;
out += "\n\n";
}
}
}
return out;
};
/*
function spansToTxt(span, fmt) {
var text = span.text;
var tcOutMs = span.tcOutMs;
var tcInMs = span.tcInMs;
switch (fmt) {
case 'txt':
return text;
case 'tc':
}
}
*/
//creates new Span (tcIn and tcOut in npt format)
var Span = function(tcIn, tcOut, text, index) {
this.index = index;
this.tcOutMs = npt2ms(tcOut);
this.text = text;
this.tcInMs = npt2ms(tcIn);
}
function cleanNewlines(str) {
var s = str.replace(/\r\n|\r|\n/g, '\n');
return s;
}
function strip(s) {
return s.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/g,"");
}
function toSeconds(t) {
var s = 0.0;
if(t) {
var p = t.split(':');
for(i=0;i<p.length;i++) {
s = s * 60 + parseFloat(p[i].replace(',', '.'))
}
}
return s;
}
function ms2npt(ms) {
var it, ss, mm, hh, npt;
var it = parseInt(ms / 1000)
ms = ms - it * 1000;
if (ms.toString().length > 3) {
ms = ms.toString().substring(0,3);
}
ss = it % 60;
mm = ((it - ss) / 60) % 60;
hh = ((it - (mm * 60) - ss) / 3600) % 60;
npt = hh+':'+strpad(mm.toString(), '0', 2, 'left')
npt += ':'+strpad(ss.toString(), '0', 2, 'left')
npt += '.'+strpad(ms.toString(), '0', 3, 'left')
return npt;
}
function npt2ms(npt) {
var ms = 0.0
npt = String(npt);
var p = npt.split(':')
for(i=0;i<p.length;i++)
ms = ms * 60 + parseFloat(p[i])
return ms * 1000;
}
function strpad(str, pad, len, dir) {
while (str.length < len) {
if (dir == 'left')
str = pad + str;
else if (dir == 'right')
str = str + pad;
}
return str;
}

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00:00:06,942 --> 00:00:19,642
phone ringing
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Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i> Sunil.
Sunil Arora: Hello?
Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i> Sunil.
Sunil Arora: Hello?
Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i> Sunil. Hello?
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00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:31,398
Sunil Arora: <i>Arre, sorry. so rahi thi</i>? (Sorry, were you sleeping?)
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin uth gayi</i>. (No. I woke up.)
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00:00:31,398 --> 00:00:39,977
Sunil Arora: <i>Achha woh waakai jaa rahaa hai kya 10 baje</i>? (Is he really leaving at 10 o clock?)
Niira Radia: <i>Haan ja rahe hai</i> (Yes, he is going.)
Sunil Arora: <i>Haan</i>? (Sorry?)
Niira Radia: <i>Haan jaa rahe hai</i> (Yes, he is going.)
Sunil Arora: <i>Achha</i>. (Okay)
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00:00:39,977 --> 00:00:51,181
Niira Radia: Basically, <i>thoda sa</i> Congress <i>ne gadbad kar di hai</i>. (Basically the Congress has messed up a bit.)
Sunil Arora: <i>Haan</i> (Yes)
Niira Radia: <i>Inko 4 chaahiye thi </i>,cabinet. <i>Woh</i> Azhagiri <i>hai naa</i> (They wanted 4 cabinets. You know, Azhagiri, no?)...he's quiet a big leader from South India.
Sunil Arora: <i>Haan, haan</i>, Madurai <i>wala</i> (Yes, yes. The guy from Madurai)
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00:00:51,181 --> 00:00:57,233
Niira Radia: Yes. You can't ignore him.
Sunil Arora: <i>Haan. sabse bada beta toh wohi hai</i>. (Yes, he's the eldest son, after all.)
Niira Radia: <i>Haan, par tum agar</i> 'Dayanidhi, Dayanidhi' <i>kar ke aage kah rahe ho</i>...
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00:00:57,233 --> 00:01:16,176
Niira Radia: ...<i>toh tum agar</i> Dayanidhi <i>ko</i> cabinet berth <i>de rahe ho. Aur tum hamaare mantriyon ko</i> name <i>kar rahe ho, toh phir tum</i> Azhagiri <i>ko</i> cabinet berth <i>do</i> (Yes. But if you're pushing forward Dayanidhi's name and if you're giving a cabinet berth to Dayanidhi, and you're also naming our ministers, then give a cabinet berth to Azhagiri)...<i>kyunki hum</i> Raja <i>aur</i> Baalu <i>ko toh pahle hi kah chuke the ke de rahe hai</i>. (Because we'd already told Raja and Baalu that we'd give them.) You have to tell me that I'll give you three, then you have to let me decide who those three will be, right?
Sunil Arora: <i>Haan</i> (Yes).
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00:01:16,176 --> 00:01:22,340
Niira Radia: <i>Yeh toh aage aage kar ke bas lage hue the 'Dayanidhi, Dayanidhi' kar ke</i> (But they just kept on pushing for Dayanidhi.)
Sunil Arora: <i>Haan</i>...
Niira Radia : <i>Usmein gadbad ho gaya.</i> (Thats where they messed up.)
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Sunil Arora: 48 hours <i>mein kuch dimag zyada nahin kharaab ho gaya</i>? (Haven't they lost their heads a bit much in the last 48 hours?)
Niira Radia: Congress <i>kaa</i>? (Of the Congress?)
Sunil Arora: <i>Haan</i> (Yes)
Niira Radia: <i>Zyada hi. Inhone</i> Farooq Abdullah <i>ke saath bhi aisa kiya</i> (A bit much! They did the same thing with Farooq Abdullah.)
Sunil Arora: <i>Haan</i> (Yes).
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Niira Radia: Praful <i>ko</i> aviation <i>mil gaya kya</i>? (Did Praful get aviation?)
Sunil Arora: <i>Pata nahin. Akhkbaron mein aur TV mein yahi aa raha hai, kal raat se hi aa raha hai, ke 'mil rahaa hai, mil rahaa hai'.</i> (I don't know. The papers and TV have been saying just that since last night, that he's getting it)
Niira Radia: Hmm
Sunil Arora: <i>Baaki bhagwaan jaane.</i> Rest only god knows.
Niira Radia: Hmm
Sunil Arora: Praful <i>ka toh do jagah se aa raha hai</i> backup, <i>bhai</i>...(Praful is backed up from two sources, my friend.)
Niira Radia: Hmm
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Sunil Arora: Because I think internally...
Niira Radia: Hmm
Sunil Arora: T.K. Nair is too much mixed up with him
Niira Radia: Hmm.
Niira Radia: But T.K.Nair has nothing to do with this, <i>naa</i>?
Sunil Arora: Behind the scenes <i>hotaa hai yaar, aisi baat nahin hai</i>. (These things happen behind the scenes) (sniggering).
Niira Radia Hmm
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Sunil Arora: <i>Yahaan</i> state level <i>par bhi jab cabinets bantii hain...</i> (When they make cabinets at the state level here,...)
Niira Radia: Hmm
Sunil Arora: ...<i>2-3 naam</i> plus-minus <i>tab bhii log kar dete hain</i> (there too, 2-3 names are added or removed.)(sniggering).
Niira Radia: Hmm
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Sunil Arora: Centre <i>pe bhii aise hi hota hoga</i>. (It must be the same at the central level.)
Niira Radia: Hmm
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Niira Radia: Hmmmm.
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Sunil Arora: Plus, <i>inke</i> links <i>bahut</i> mix-up <i>ho chuke hain aapas mein</i>. (Plus, their links are all mixed up within themselves.)
Niira Radia: Hmm
Sunil Arora: Their lines are too now closely crossed with each other.
Niira Radia: Hmm
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Sunil Arora: <i>Abhi aap ghar par hain</i>? (Are you at home now?)
Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i> (Yes).
Sunil Arora: Landline number <i>kya hai</i>? (What is your landline number?)
Niira Radia: <i>Main abhi 5 minute mein</i> phone <i>karun</i>? (Let me call you back in five minutes?)
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Sunil Arora: <i>Mai hi kar leta hun. phir mai nikal raha tha. Ya main... kar lun</i>? (Let me call. Then I have to leave. Should I call?)
Niira Radia: I'll just call you. It's 64612650.
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Sunil Arora: What? 61...?
Niira Radia: 6 4 6 1...
Sunil Arora: 6 4 6 1...
Niira Radia: ...2 6 5 0
Sunil Arora: <i>Theek hai</i>. (Okay)
Niira Radia: 5 minutes...
[Tape ends abruptly]

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(Phone rings)
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Cecilia: Hello?
Radia: Ya, I decided to opt out..
Cecilia: Yeah I just got an SMS: you opted out.
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Radia: Who from?..
Cecilia: From (?) she heard <i>na</i>... I was asking mummy to pray.
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Radia: So I opted out she says that I can't. Tell your mum to continue praying, it's not been frozen yet.
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Cecilia: I told my mother that I got an SMS saying that she walked out.. I mean, opted out, ...saying that I was praying for her so hard. ...So still there are chances, is it?
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Radia: Maybe farther there may be Congress.. her independent.. she wants independent charge, she doesn't want to work under Dayanidhi Maran.
Cecilia: Definitely.
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Radia: Her view is that you shouldn't have been there in the first place.
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Cecilia: He's given it, he's given a list?
Radia: Yeah he's given.. his name has gone in. But it can still be changed,...
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Cecilia: It can be changed, is it?
Radia: I hope so.. It all depends on God really.
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Cecilia: No.. she's fine but.. but is this girl confident of getting or she doesn't want to get at all..
Radia: No she wants independent charge.
Cecilia: Okay..
Radia: Congress has to agree to give her independent charge. She doesn't want MoS. That is she has to work under people. Independent charge gives her same level.
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Cecilia: Let's pray...I was going to send you an SMS to check whether I got the message right.
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Cecilia:There are still chances you're saying?
Radia: Can be.. ask your ma to pray.
Cecilia: I'll tell her to pray. I told her that I got that SMS.. but she says, really I was praying for her so much. I'll tell her there are still chances.
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Radia: Tell her not to stop <i>haan</i>..
Cecilia: Okay, I'll tell her.. I told her that she's opted out I think it's finished. I was going to send you an SMS to find out.
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Radia: No no no...I think there's still a chance.
(abruptly ends)

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(Phone Rings)
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Niira Radia: Hello?
A. Raja: Raja here
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Niira Radia: Hi! I got a message from Barkha Dutt just now
A. Raja: Huh?
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Niira Radia: Barkha Dutt
A. Raja: What does she say?
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Niira Radia: She says... that she has been following up the story with Prime Minister's Office tonight. In fact, she was the one who told me that Sonia Gandhi went there. She says that he has no problem with you, but he has a problem with Baalu
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A. Raja: ...but it has to be discussed with Leader.
Niira Radia: yeah, yeah... he has to discuss with the Leader. He has to tell...
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A. Raja: It will be discussed in the morning. Why unnecessarily Congress - DMK [indiscernible] tie-up is going out?
Niira Radia: No, but then the question is about Azhagiri, no?
A. Raja: Huh?
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Niira Radia: Azhagiri's people are saying: why is Maran getting Cabinet when he is such a senior leader himself?
A. Raja: That is different, but all these things must be explored and disclosed.
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Niira Radia: That's right. That's right. I told her to get Congress...
A. Raja: At least, one to one, let it be disclosed to Leader
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Niira Radia: One to one?
A. Raja: One to one. Somebody should give a message, at least in a sealed cover, that we are having serious problems with Baalu.
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Niira Radia: From Congress, right?
A. Raja: Yes.
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Niira Radia: Okay, I'll tell her. She is talking to Ahmed Patel, so I will talk to her.
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A. Raja: Let him [sic] call at least over phone: Sir, this is problem... we are having high regard, we are having no problem with Raja, but problem is Baalu. Tell.
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Niira Radia: Then how will you resolve the other problem?
A. Raja: Other problems we will take care of slowly, because now Leader comes down.
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Niira Radia: Uh huh.
A. Raja: Don't worry.
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Niira Radia: Now Leader comes down to three, no?
A. Raja: Comes down for [sic] three...
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Niira Radia: Yeah
A. Raja: Even you are saying that Maran is not fit for infrastructure... he is having controversy... alright, let him be accommodated in the existing ministry... at least we will suggest.
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Niira Radia: Maran?
A. Raja: Hmm... you suggest, you send a message.
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Niira Radia: Uh, huh.
A. Raja: Okay.
Niira Radia: Okay.

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Phone Rings
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Vir Sanghvi: Hi Niira.
Niira: Hi Vir. Where are you Delhi or...
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Vir Sanghvi: I'm in Jaipur. Coming back this evening. 
Niira: Okay. I just wanted to, I've been talking to my Tamil Nadu friends.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: I just need to, I don't know whether you are in the position to get through to anyone at Congress. I just met Kanni just now.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: And I've been, you know, we've been at it since yesterday. The problem is...
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Vir Sanghvi: I was supposed to meet Sonia today but I've been stuck here. So, now it's becoming tomorrow. I've been meeting with Rahul but tell me?
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Niira: No, I'll tell you what - they are not understanding that they are actually communicating with the wrong guy. Not because I detest Maran but actually the father has not nominated Maran to negotiate. Now, you know, it's like a banana republic the way the cabinet...
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Vir Sanghvi: Then why Maran became the face, they all hate Maran.
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Niira: No. He is not, he is not. I know, no. But the Congress is under the impression. They have already apparently indicated to Maran that the Prime Minister will not give infrastructure berth to DMK, which, but he himself is desperately pushing for an infrastructure berth for himself.
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Vir Sanghvi: Right.
Niira: But the problem is that there is a leader which is Kanni's brother which is Azhagiri, who's won that election and he is a mass leader.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: Now what has apparently Maran has gone and indicated to Congress is that he will accept a MoS independent and you leave it with me, everything will be okay.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: Which saves Baalu, Raja and Maran Cabinet posts independent to Azhagiri and MoS to Kanni. 
Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
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Niira: Now, Azhagiri is a very, you know, he is, he is a mass leader. He controls half of Tamil Nadu for Karunanidhi's point of view.
Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
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Niira: He is far too, too senior for Maran. So, what he has told his father that if you make Maran a cabinet minister...
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.
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Niira: ...I'll not come into the cabinet. And the father cannot afford to upset him because... 
Vir Sanghvi: Obviously.
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Niira: ...simply because of his position. 
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.
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Niira: Right now the Congress doesn't seem to be understanding this. 
Vir Sanghvi: So, who should they talk to?
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Niira: They need to, look, they need to talk directly to Karunanidhi, they need to talk to Kanni. 
Vir Sanghvi: Sonia spoke to him yesterday, you know.
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Niira: No, she didn't speak to him. Only Prime Minister spoke even that was Kanni was translating for him. It was very brief that, you know, let's try and resolve this issue. There is nothing at all and whatever. They need to get Ghulam Nabi Azad to speak to Kanimozhi.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: Seriously, that's the only thing that will work and Kanni will take them to her father.
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Vir Sanghvi: I won't get into Sonia in the short term, let me try and get through to Ahmed.
Niira: No. But they need to speak to Kanni and Kanni will take him to their, her father directly.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: He has no problem with three cabinet berths at all. In fact it is the Congress that messed it up.
Vir Sanghvi: Mm-hmm.
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Niira: Had they, had they not kept on insisting and kept on pushing Maran forward. They themselves have been pushing Maran forward.
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Niira: They would have left it to Raja and... Baalu even if they wanted, or Raja and Azhagiri and Kanni would have taken independent. Nobody - it is Congress they started this whole Maran dialogue.
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Vir Sanghvi: Oh, I have been thinking that DMK nominated Maran.
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Niira: No. No. No. No, they did, they've sent a list earlier with five portfolios and Maran's name because father was pushed from all sides so he had to send a list with everybody's name on it.
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Niira: But he was hoping that Congress would come back and say okay we will accept Raja or we will not, or not Raja, we will give you only three portfolios right? But they have not able to, the communication that's been happening in Congress with DMK has been complete warped. They are talking to the wrong guys.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Let me try and get through to Ahmed. 
Niira: The, the simplest way is Kanimozhi.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.
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Niira: And Kanimozhi will take them to her father directly.
Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
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Niira: And they can have this, you know, whatever are the, the concerns, whatever they want to say, let them say in front of Karunanidhi.
Vir Sanghvi: And he'll never mind. He will not mind.
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Niira: Yeah, they should say, they should say we don't want Maran. 
Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Done. Let me just try and get through and I'll let you know soon.
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Niira: But the moment you drop Maran, your problem gets resolved because Azhagiri has done okay. 
Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: Yeah.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: Okay. Give him this message. She is right now...
Vir Sanghvi: I just...
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Niira: [Indiscernible] She is in her South Avenue residence.
Vir Sanghvi: They have her mobile no, you know?
Niira: I just met her.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira: And some Tamil Nadu Congress guys has also gone just now to meet her. 
Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
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Niira: I don't think it needs to be done at that level. It needs to be done at, at Ghulam Nabi Azad level or...
Vir Sanghvi: Well, I'll talk with Ahmed. I'm going to talk to him.
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Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

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Dorai: Hello!
Niira: Dorai!
Dorai: Yes boss!
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Niira: <i>Vo Saldanha ka jo... Manav Joshi ka letter aaya hai...</i> (That Saldanha's... Manav Joshi's letter that has come.)
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Dorai: <i>Haan, haan!</i> (Yes, yes!)
Niira: Have you read it?
Dorai: Ehh... No, I haven't.
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Niira: Ok! We need to go over it and respond to them because they are beginning to complain that we are not responding to them.
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Dorai: <i>Achha</i> (ok), I'll just see.
Niira: Ok, <i>Dusre baat ehh...</i> (Secondly...) ...passes for Supreme Court.
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Dorai: Haa, haa
Niira: Can you get them...<i>Ek toh Vishal ka pass zaroori hai.</i> (Vishal's pass is required.)
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Dorai: <i>Haa, haa</i>.
Niira: <i>Tum jaoge.</i> (You will go.)
Dorai: <i>Haa</i>!
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Niira: <i> Daljit jaega.</i> (Daljit will go.)
Dorai: That we can organise that is not a problem.
Niira: No I also need one for Ganpathy.
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Dorai: <i>Theek hai. </i> (Ok.)
Niira: <i>Uska nahi hai. Aur Rohini Singh. Ye dono.</i> (His is not there. And Rohini Singh. These two.)
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Dorai: <i>Theek hai </i> (Ok.) Will ok.
Niira: <i> Inka na...</i> (Theirs...) because I believe it will be tight so just double check haa.
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Dorai: Ok, fine.
Niira: Because it is pretty tight... Both for tomorrow...
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Niira: Hi Channu!
Channu: Good morning!
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Niira: Good morning! How are you?
Channu: I am fine, thanks. How are you?
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Niira: I am alright. I guess you are busy with the budget?
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Channu: Yaa, yaa! Going to get in a little while from now... Going to get busy with that, but I spoke to Rohini yesterday.
Niira: Hmm!
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Channu: And what I told her is to, while all this is going on, budget and stuff, let us be prepared from tomorrow onwards to go back to the other important issues.
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Niira: Haa! Channu! She has been in touch with me on the phone, between you and me. Ok, so I just want to let you know.
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Channu: Yaa, yaa, yaa!
Niira: But I have told her and don't tell her that I told you this...
Channu: No, no, no!
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Niira: What I have told her is that I need a... If you are going to do a program for me, she said she is going to speak to Andy.
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Channu: Hmm!
Niira: Which is on Wednesday. Which is Whose Gas Is It Anyway? Because I have got NDTV and CNN-IBN and including CNBC for me to do it.
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Channu: Hmm!
Niira: Which they will call in outsiders to... The program is based on whose... It doesn't take sides. It is not about Mukesh or Anil any longer.
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Channu: Hmm!
Niira: It's about whose gas is it anyway?
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Channu: Yaa, it is about the issue and the discussion.
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Niira: Yaa! It is about that and it is about ...(Unclear)... and private agreements because there are 170 NELP aggrements today...
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Channu: Hmm!
Niira: Which will all end up having private agreements tomorrow.
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Channu: Hmm, hmm!
Niira: And then what will you... And then what will the country do with its national priority?
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Channu: Yaa, yaa! Ofcourse, ofcourse.
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Niira: So I have told her this and I have said look, if you are willing to do this, then you get back to me and then I will... I will see what I can give you.
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Channu: Hmm, hmm!
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Niira: To which she said no, you give me information and then she told me that you were in touch with somebody from RIL, I didn't want to tell you anything. I said you don't worry about it.
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Channu: Hmm, hmm!
Niira: That means it touches all of us. If it touches RIL also maybe he is. I know he knows the lawyers and all that.
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Channu: Hmm, hmm, hmm!
Niira: You know, its that this thing.
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Channu: Yaa, yaa!
Niira: So between you and me, she is in touch with me.
Channu: Ok. Good, good, good!
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Niira: But but but not, you know, I am not letting her know what you and I are discussing.
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Channu: Yaa, of course. That is beyond... I mean it is not good for both of us that way.
Niira: Hmm!
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Channu: So, cool, cool. No problem at all.
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Niira: No but what is she going to do because listen I have got your passes organised for the Supreme Court haa.
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Channu: Oh lovely, lovely! Tomorrow right? Is that tomorrow?
Niira: Tomorrow and Wednesday. I've got both.
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Channu: Ok, lovely, lovely!
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Niira: Ok, now the thing is that the SLP I need to give you but the problem is Channu that I need that SLP to be carried in a particular context you know?
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Channu: Hmm, hmm, hmm!
Niira: I have got the SLPs. I have got the copies. They have all come in to me.
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Channu: Sure, sure, sure.
Niira: I need to explain it to you, you see?
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Channu: Yaa, yaa. You let me know. Let the budget hulla be over today.
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Channu: Then we will like I will go to the court tomorrow and also read the papers and then start work on it from tomorrow onwards.
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Niira: Yaa because you know at the end of the day we must drive the point.
Channu: Hmm!
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Niira: You see I have only one point to drive that RIL's case, that RNRL's case...
Channu: Hmm!
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Niira: Is not against the... Is no longer against RIL because it is the government they are challenging <i>na</i>?
Channu: Hmm!
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Niira: You are saying give me a stay on the contract.
Channu: Yaa, yaa, yaa!
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Niira: This whole interim relief issue.
Channu: Hmm! Of course.
Niira: So that's what is being said.
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Channu: Hmm!
Niira: I believe a lot of the state governments have also written, <i>haan</i>!
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Channu: Ohh! That will be very interesting because that gives a new context into the entire thing because I am sure Andhra Pradesh will be one of them definitely.
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Niira: Hmm! Well multiple, multiple state governments have written.
Channu: I think we should keep all this and you know, keep hammering it.
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Niira: Channu for me the most important thing is Wednesday morning.
Channu: Hmm!
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Niira: What the appears on Wednesday morning becomes most critical.
Channu: Ok!
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Niira: Because at the end of the day that is our matter that is coming up on that day.
Channu: Hmm!
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Niira: So that becomes really really critical. So we will have to sit down and plan how we want to do this. You tell me how you are placed because you are busy today <i>na</i>?
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Channu: Ya today will be a little this thing... What I will do is I will come to you first thing tomorrow morning or as and when we are through this evening but it will be pretty late.
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Niira: Ok, give me a call otherwise tomorrow morning we can meet early na?
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Channu: Sure, sure! Yaa, yaa! We will do that. No if we can speak at 10 at night we will do that.
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Niira: Or we will talk tonight in any case <i>na</i>?
Channu: Yaa!
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Niira: Because yesterday they were circulating their fertiliser letter again <i>na</i>.
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Channu: Ahh! So stupid you know that the way they have sort of written. But finally Nainan(?) has put out all their details of their submission and all.
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Niira: When today?
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Channu: Yaa, yaa, yaa! So...What they were trying to tell people not to do, that point has come out and even the other day also I think they had a...
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Niira: On Saturday, on Saturday night... No on Sunday. That was yesterday, it came out very well Nainan(?) put out the whole point very well.
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Channu: Correct, correct.
Niira: But not today. Today I didn't see anything.
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Channu: Yaa, they have done a much better job out of it rather than messing it up you know like...
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Niira: No but has something come up today?
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Daljeet: Hello!
Nira: Daljeet!
Daljeet: Yaa ma'am!
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Nira: <i> Vo Dainik Jagran ke jo story hai aj tumara BS ne pura unka perspective carry keya. </i> ( That Dainik Jagran's story, your BS carried their perspective only.)
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Daljeet: <i> Kisne? BS ne? </i> (Who? BS?)
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Nira: <i> Haan! </i> (Yes!) <i> Aur Times of India ne bhi </i> (And also Times of India.)
Daljeet: Uh huh!
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Nira: <i> Pura fertiliser ka jo humne bola tha, humara toh perspective aaya nahi. </i> (Everything what we said about the fertiliser, our perspective didn't come at all.)
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Daljeet: <i> Nahi BS me tho story hi nahi hai. </i> (No, in BS there is no story.)
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Nira: <i> Aayi hai bahi. </i> (It has come now.)
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Daljeet: <i> Maine dekha nahi... </i> (I didn't see it.)
Nira: <i> Bilkul hai. Page three aur page four pe hai. </i> (Of course it has come. It is on page three and page four.)
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Daljeet: <i>Mai check karta hu. Maine dekha tho fertiliser ka story Jagran mai toh...Is mai toh thi hi nahi, BS mai. </i> (I will check. When I saw, the fertilizer story was not in Jagran...In BS.)
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Nira: Huh! It's in BS.
Daljeet: <i> Mai check karta hu ek bar. </i> (I will check it once.)
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Nira: It is there I just read it. It is very much there.
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Nira: <i> Humara</i> perspective <i>nahi aaya hai. </i>You know, <i>mujhe kya hai na </i> Daljeet <i>sunna pad jata hai</i> clients <i>se.</i> (Our perspective has not come. You know, I have to then listen to things from the client.)
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Daljeet: Hmm!
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Nira: <i> Tum log dekho na. Dekho na... </i> (You all see. Check...) ...Because unless you and I are talking to Nayantara and <i>Hum log </i> Economic Times <i>ke beech mein... Dono ke beech mai tum aur mai kara rahe hai. </i> (We are doing it between Economic Times... both you and I are getting it done.)
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Daljeet: Hmm, hmm!
Nira: Now he is asking me...<i>'Ki tere baaki log kya kar rehe hai?'</i> (What are the rest of your people doing?) You know?
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Daljeet: Hmm, hmm, hmm!
Nira: And he is really on a tangent.
Daljeet: Hmm, hmm!
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Nira: Because his view is that we have to win this battle <i>na</i>. At any cost.
Daljeet: Yaa, yaa. Of course, of course!
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Nira: Right we can't lose this battle and public opinion ... <i> Sabse</i> important <i>hoga.</i> ( ...will be the most important.)
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Daljeet: Hmm! True
Nira: The thing is that you and I have to decide... <i> Ke ye kaise karenge? </i> (... how to do it? )
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Nira: <i> Mera ek kaam kardo. Dainik Jagran ki jo kal aayi hai story... </i> (Do one thing for me. The story which came on Dainik Jagran yesterday...)
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Daljeet: <i> Haaji! </i> (Yes!)
Nira: <i> Uske 1000 copy milegi mujhe? </i> (Can I get 1000 copies of it?)
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Daljeet: <i>1000 copie mil jayenge ji.</i> (You will get 1000 copies.)
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Nira: <i> Mujhe mangvaake na, </i> Satish Ohri <i>ke ghar pe bhijva.</i> Office <i>pe.</i> (Send it to Satish Ohri's house... his office.)
Daljeet: <i>Theek hai.</i> (Ok.)
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Nira: <i>Aur...</i> (And...) let him circulate to every MP's house.
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Daljeet: Sure, sure, no problem.
Nira: <i> Uska pura translation hai</i> English <i>mein? </i> (Do you have the complete translation in English?)
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Daljeet: <i> Hai nahi, mai kar dunga.</i> (It's not there, I'll do it.) I'll get it done.
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Nira: <i>Abhi toh phir uska</i> translation <i>mangvaa... bhijvade saath mein. Uske saath mein</i> news paper <i>ke saath</i> attach <i>karke na, uska </i> translation <i>ek ek</i> MP <i>ke ghar pe bhijvado.</i> (Now you send the translation. Attach it to the newspaper and send it to every MP's house.)
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Daljeet: <i> Theek hai Madam. </i> (Ok Madam.) Ok.
Nira: Because that is a very critical story na?
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Daljeet: That's a critical story, yaa, yaa.
Nira: <i> Toh uska na...</i> (So that ...) you make sure Daljeet that you put on target Rajni.
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Nira: <i> Kisiko bhi tumhe lagaanaa hai, lagao. </i> (Put whomever you want to.)
Daljeet: <i> Theek hai.</i> (Ok.)
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Nira: Budget <i>vo dekh lenge sab baaki.</i> (We will see the budget later.)
Daljeet: <i>Theek hai ma'am.</i> (Ok ma'am.)
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Nira: <i>Bas jisko bhi lagana hai. Vo </i> story <i>shaam tak sabke ghar pe pahunch jaana chahiye.</i> (Put whoever you want. That story should reach everyone's house by evening.)
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Daljeet: <i> Ok ma'am, theek hai. </i> ( Ok ma'am, fine.)
Nira: Please haa! With the translation. Ok
Daljeet: Sure, sure, sure. It will be done. Ok ma'am.
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Nira: Ok! That is one. The second thing is... <i> Tu BS ka story dekhle.</i> (... you see the BS story.)
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Daljeet: <i>Theek hai.</i> ( Ok.)
Nira: Because obviously they have... You see Prabhakaran... <i>Ne bhi unka hi</i> story carry <i>kiya hai.</i> (... also has carried their story only.)
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Daljeet: Yaa... <i>usne unhi ka kiya hai.</i> (he did theirs only.) I didn't use our...(unclear)... at all.
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Nira: Haa but why?
Daljeet: I don't know. I will have to speak to him. He got the information. He asked for the information. I gave him the entire information.
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Nira: Haa!
Daljeet: But despite that he didn't use it.
Nira: I mean you have to speak to him.
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Daljeet: Yaa, yaa. I know I will go and meet him. I will go and meet him personally.
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Nira: <i>Tu dekhna usko.</i> (You see to him.) You know how he is na?
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Daljeet: Yaa I know I know he is a bit ...<i> Sanki </i> (Mad)... type of character.
Nira: But I believe he works on a different method <i>na</i>?
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Daljeet: No otherwise he is not the kind of person who will take sides.
Nira: Hmm!
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Daljeet: But I will go and speak to him on this issue.
Nira: You sure?
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Daljeet: Yaa, yaa I'll speak to him.
Nira: He's not cut a favour with the other guys?
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Daljeet: <i> Haanji? </i> (Sorry?)
Nira: He hasn't cut any favours with the other guys <i>na</i>?
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Daljeet: No, no, no I don't think so, no.
Nira: You don't think so <i>na</i>?
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Daljeet: <i> Nahi, nahi...</i> (No, no...) he is not that kind of a person.
Nira: He's straight ?
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Daljeet: I'll, I'll speak to him ma'am.
Nira: No tell me one thing. Is he completely straight?
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Daljeet: Yaa he is straight ma'am. He is straight.
Nira: You sure <i>na</i>?
Daljeet: Yaa, yaa, 100%.
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Nira: Because there have been so many views about him.
Daljeet: No, no, I know him for last more than a decade. Almost two decades.
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Nira: Hmm!
Daljeet: I know him as not a kind of person who will cut favour with anybody.
Nira: You sure <i>na</i>?
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Daljeet: Yaa, yaa, 100% ma'am.
Nira: <i> Nahin, theek hai, phir tum</i> (No it's ok, then you...) ...You go with that assumption then and you please handle him <i>haan</i>.
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Daljeet: Yaa sure I'lll do that. I'll do that.
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Nira: <i> Acha Nav Bharat Times ka kaise legega? Kal kuch aane wala hai? </i> (Okay what about Nav Bharat Times? Is anything going to come tomorrow? )
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Daljeet: <i> Kal to nahin, aaj to sirf Budget hi gaya hai. </i> (Not tomorrow. Today only Budget has gone.)
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Nira: Hmm, <i>Aaj pura budget right?</i> (Today full budget right?)
Daljeet: <i>Aaj pura budget. Aaj toh...</i> (Today full budget. Today...) People will not even talk on this issue. They don't have time.
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Nira: Uh huh! <i> Theek hai. Chalo </i> (Ok. Let's...)
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Nira: Hello! Hello!
Padmanabhan: Yaa, this is Paddy speaking.
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Nira: Hello!
Padmanabhan: This is Paddy speaking. Can I talk to Nira?
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Nira: Yaa, speaking. Hi!
Padmanabhan: Ehh... Good morning. I have SR also with me.
SR: Hi Nira!
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Nira: Hi! How are you?
SR: Fine. Yaa.
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Nira: I just wondered. I got a...um, you know this matter is coming up tomorrow in the Supreme Court.
SR: Yaa.
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Nira: Apparently RNRL has asked for a stay which maybe they will not get. What I understand from Mukesh's people.
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Nira: They will... Harish is not in town. Harish will be there for Wednesday.
SR: Yaa.
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Nira: So the matter for RIL's petition will come up on Wednesday and... But Anil's lawyers have indicated today that they have no intention of holding out for Wednesday and therefore they will move for an interim stay tomorrow.
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Nira: Which they can't get because it is only going to get mentioned first but they want an interim stay on all the agreements.
SR: Ok.
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Nira: What we wondered is that I believe that several of the companies that have signed the GSPA have written letters now to the government on both the allocation issue as well as disparity in pricing.
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SR: Hmm!
Nira: I am just wondering whether Tata Power was sending a letter.
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SR: See originally we said that we will look at sending the letter if the other power producers are also sending.
Nira: Yaa!
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SR: You are now telling me this is only those who have signed the gas supply agreement with RIL.
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Nira: No I think many of them that have written in to the government like for eg. GVK.
SR: Hmm!
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Nira: Has sent their letter. I am going to get a copy of that letter in a little while. I think there are several of them, Torrent...
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SR: Hasn't GVK signed a gas supply agreement? They have.
Nira: Yes they have. Yes they have. Have we signed a gas supply agreement?
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Padmanabhan: See what we have with RIL is we have signed a gas supply agreement but there is no allocation for us as yet.
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Nira: Yes because what I did indicate it to Mr Tata last week when I met him. As you know Mr. Tata had met up with Mukesh also.
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SR: Hmm!
Nira: What has been... What has transpired is that I believe they were giving us one MMSCB and Mukesh has indicated to Prasad which...
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Nira: PMS Prasad that he must ensure that the government gives us allocation for the second because we have applied for two, haven't we?
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SR: Yes we have filled... That's right. Yes.
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Nira: And the indication was that even if we get one more... But given that we have only applied for two, we should get two so they were pushing the government to ensure on our behalf that we get the two.
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SR: Hmm!
Nira: Which I think, Mukesh has given his word to both Mr. Tata and mentioned to me separately.
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Nira: I called Mr. Tata last week and let him know that he had said that we are pushing for the second as well.
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SR: Hmm! Hmm! See Nira, the only thing that we would like to make sure is that we don't appear as the one company doing it, yaa?
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Nira: Yaa, I don't think you are the only one. I'll get the list of everyone that's done it.
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Nira: I know but seven or eight letters have come in already including the state of Andhra has also written it.
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SR: Ok and we all can have this similar content so that we don't have any issues on that.
Padmanabhan: You can lay your hand on GVK's letter Nira?
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Nira: Yes, yes. I'll get it in a... inf act Prasad said to me that he will send it to me in about half an hour.
Padmanabhan: Ok.
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Nira: So I'll get you the GVK letter.
SR: Yaa, wonderful.
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Nira: Because they have also taken legal advice.
SR: Ok.
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Nira: And they have been told to actually feed in the matter you know because not to let it pend...
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Nira: I think everyone more or less out of the 40 agreements including the fertiliser companies are going to go to the Supreme Court by the look of things.
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SR: Haa! The fertiliser companies have an association like TRAI.
Nira: Ehuh!
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SR: The power companies, what happened, an association is just getting formed. Unfortunately the association was first convened last month.
Nira: Ehuh!
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SR: By and it is being chaired by Anil Ambani's RCL.
Nira: Oh God!
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SR: So that's what when Prasad was... When we discussed this, Prasad was saying this issue is there.
Nira: Ehuh!
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SR: So the association cannot right because there is a vested party in the membership there.
Nira: Yes, yes.
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SR: So what we will do, if you can get us the letter we will run through it quickly.
Nira: Ehuh!
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SR: And also it will help to know if more than five, six companies are there...
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Nira: I'll let you know. I know but seven of them till Saturday had already done so.
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Nira: I also know that the Andhra Government on behalf of its own state government requirements had also written. I am expecting to get copies of those letters.
SR: Ok.
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Nira: The GVK letter Prasad had indicated that he was going to send to me by about one o'clock today. So I should get that in a little while.
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SR: Wonderful.
Nira: Ill send that across to you and then we can look at sending a letter along those lines, isn't it?
SR: Yes, yes.
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Nira: Ok! That will be great because I don't think we are the only ones. I believe everyone is going down that route.
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SR: Ok, ok! So once I get the letter I'll give you a call.
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Nira: Ok so I'll get it across to you then.
SR: Ok, thank you!
Nira: Ok, thank you! Bye, bye!
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Niira Radia: Hello
Unknown MP: Hello
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Niira Radia: Hi, how are you?
Unknown MP: <i>Haaaan</i> I'm fine how are you?
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Niira Radia: I'm fine, I am back
Unknown MP: OK
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Niira Radia: ...in the land of the... I don't know which is the land of living -- Bombay or this one [presumably Delhi] (laughs)
Unknown MP: 50:50, I think
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Niira Radia: I think so. 50-50. How are you placed? Travelling tomorrow? Are you busy? Are you here?
Unknown MP: No, no we are here. Parliament session going on
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Niira Radia: You are going to Parliament in the morning?
Unknown MP: Tomorrow morning ...I am going to boss house... So, after that I am not sure
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Niira Radia: Will you call me when you're free and I'll pop across?
Unknown MP: OK
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Niira Radia: Can i come and see you?
Unknown MP: I'll let you know tomorrow morning
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Niira Radia: You let me know?
Unknown MP- Haan
Niira Radia: OK OK
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Unknown MP: Everything fine?
Niira Radia: <i>No yeah kyaa huaa naa</i> Supreme Court <i>se tumhaaraa admit hogaya hai</i> matter <i>inkaa?</i> (No, did your matter get admitted in the Supreme Court?)
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Unknown MP: <i>Kinkaa? Haa koii bhii thiik hai woh gaya tha aaj Court mein</i> (Whose? Yeah that's okay, he had gone to the Court today) so they said ke bhai I don't know, I didn't speak to him much,
Niira Radia: haan
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Unknown MP: I'll call him tomorrow only, because they have given four weeks time, Shrivastav
Niira Radia: haaa....
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Unknown MP: Four weeks time for filing the affidavit
Niira Radia: Response ...but they have admitted the matter Supreme Court?
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Unknown MP: Haan, they have admitted the matter
Niira Radia: Four weeks matter huh?
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Unknown MP: <i>Thiik hai</i> doesn't make a difference
Niira Radia: Atleast stay toh nahii diyaa naa?
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Unknown MP: Nahii stay to nahii diyaa
Niira Radia: Good

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Nira: Hello!
Manoj: Boss <i> ye jo 81A ka clarification aaya hai usme kuch clarity nahi hai ke...</i> ( This clarification which has come for 81A has no clarity...) ...whether it is applicable to us or not.
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Nira: I just spoke to MDA.
Manoj: Hmm! <i> Kya bola? </i> (What did he say?)
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Nira: I didn't ask him this. 81A is it?
Manoj: <i> Haan! </i> (Yes!)
Nira: It is called 81A right?
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Manoj: 81B sorry, not 81A. 81B.
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Nira: Ehh... Sorry where are we? Venket ...(Laughs)... I get it wrong again. Venket sorry very quickly MDA again please. Haa! 81B right.
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Manoj: Yaa and whether net-net is it a positive thing for us because MAT has gone up by 16th... by 5% and if this is applicable to us.
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Nira: Sorry to disturb you. Just put down this note about 20 thousand crore benefit today on the 81B...
Manoj: No, no, pipelines...
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Nira: We have said there is ambiguity so we have tried to maintain that.
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Nira: There is no benefit <i>na</i>?
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Nira: Ok I'll maintain that.
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Nira: Hmm!
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Nira: Ok. Ok. Haa! But... Ehuh!
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NIra: Hmm! Hmm!
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Nira: But shall I go as an official statement?
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Nira: Hmm! I shouldn't no? You see I'd have to say that sources close to...Sources say that you know. Hmm!
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Nira: Yaa ok. Hmm! Hmm! Hmm! Ok, ok.
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Nira: Manoj there is still ambiguity. We don't know. It has no benefit he says actually but we should make the statement.
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Nira: So what you should actually say is that this is how offline sources close to... Not RIL but sources close to the parse, to the sector...
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Nira: ...say that this is how our business rivals are trying to take away legitimate gains that could have come into the E&P sector.
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Nira: Likewise in the power sector there are 50000 crores by giving them a two year tax holiday.
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: 15000... 50000 crore benefit to the power companies.
Manoj: Ok!
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Nira: Hmm!
Manoj: Ok!
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Nira: <i> Isko word karke tum kar sakte ho teek se? </i> ( Can you word this and do it properly?)
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Manoj: <i> Dekta hu. </i> (I'll see.)
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Nira: <i> Vo ke reha hai ke benefit abi humne abi calculate nahi keya kuki clarity nahi hai. </i> ( He is saying that we have not yet calculated the benefit because there is no clarity.)
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: So we don't know whether there is actually going to be any benefit to us in the first place.
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: So instead of us saying that there is no benefit to us...
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: You should say that sources say that there is no benefit to us.
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: And how you know business rivals have worked to... But not saying RIL.
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: <i> Kuan tuje chase kar reha hai, ET? </i> (Who is chasing you, ET?)
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: Hmm! <i> Mujebe ET chase kar reha hai. </i> ( ET is chasing me also.)
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Manoj: Hmm! <i> Nahi plus vo Navin vagera ka phone aaya... </i> (No plus that Navin etc.'s phone had come.)
Nira: Hmm?
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Manoj: 20000 is actually on that pipeline. They have allowed 100% depreciation.
Nira: Hmm!
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Manoj: That to we are handling, <i> ke... </i> (that...) ... depreciation will come only when you have 20000 worth of gross revenue.
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Nira: Hmm!
Manoj: <i> Vaisa fira rehai hai ke ek sal me ye sab... koi operator aisa nahi hai jo productization claim kar lega. </i> ( They are spreading that in one year, there is no operator who will claim productization.)
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Nira: Hmm!
Manoj: You know, it will basically find liabilities which is very high then I will claim depreciation.
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Nira: <i> Now usko vo hi bol do... </i> ( Now tell him that only that...) power sector has got 50000 crores.
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Manoj: 50000 crores <i>na</i>?
Nira: Hmm!
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Manoj: <i> Teek hai. </i> (Ok.) ok.
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Nira: So he gets 50000 crores of benefit. Although... <i> vo nahi hai, tho be tu faik de na 50000 crores. </i> ( It is not that but you still lie that it is 50000 crores.)
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Manoj: <i> Haan two years ka holiday mila na unko? </i> ( Yes, two years holiday they got, haven't they?)
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Nira:Hmm! Two years holiday. Ok listen... <i> Raghav ko kya liku mai ke... </i> ( What do I write to Raghav that...) ... MM is coming into... I am sending him an email because he is not answering my phone.
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Manoj: Hmm!
Nira: Maybe he is tied up. That MM and I would like to come to your office.
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Manoj: Hmm!
Nira: To present the... To give you a perspective on what has been happening in this recent matter.
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Manoj: Yaa!
Nira: And has asked me to seek time with you for Wednesday.
Manoj: Yaa!
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Nira: <i> Eisa karke haa! </i> ( Like that ok!)
Manoj: <i> Teek hai! </i> (Ok!)
Nira: <i> Eisa kar du ? </i> ( Should I do it like that?)
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: Best no... <i> Dono... </i> (Both...) ... to Raghav. Because I am putting it on mail which is why otherwise because I have been trying to reach him on the phone but he is not answering.
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Manoj: <i> Haan teek hai. Eisa math dalo na </i> (Yes ok. Don't put it like this.) MM is in town and just wanted to come across and discuss some...
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Nira: No but I want to tell him <i>na</i> that incase he has got people he wants to meet <i>na</i>.
Manoj: Haa! Discuss some of the developments.
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Nira: Hmm!
Manoj: Related to the gas supplies.
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Nira: Hmm! Ok but I don't want to put that on record <i>na</i> Manoj because it is a subjudice matter.
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Manoj: <i> Tho gas supply tho hum log sare operators ko de rehai hai vegera 40 MMSCMD ho gaya. </i> ( Gas supply we are giving to all the operators etc. 40 MMSCMD has become.)
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Nira: I'll try and reach him again ok. Let me try and reach him again.
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Manoj: Or just say that MM is in town and we just wanted to drop in and discuss some of the recent developments so it would be nice if you could...
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Nira: Hmm! <i> Teek hai. </i> ( Ok.)
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Niira Radia: Hello
Manoj Warrier: Haan
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Niira Radia: Manu?
Manoj Warrier: Hello
Niira Radia: Haan Manoj
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Manoj Warrier: The finance ministry apparently has told ET that there is no benefit for RIL. It will be only from...
Niira Radia: Haan?
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Manoj Warrier: The finance ministry has told ET that there is no benefit for RIL. This will be only applicable for future NELP blocks.
[Silence for some time.]
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Niira Radia: So?
Manoj Warrier: So, <i>kutch nahii</i> (Nothing)....(not clear)
Niira Radia: Hmm..
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Manoj Warrier: (remains silent)
Niira Radia: <i>To achhi bath hai naa. Tumhe to court mai help karegaa</i> (So its good. It will help you in court)
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Manoj Warrier: Haan
Niira Radia: to unka 20000 crore argument will get thrown out, na?
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Manoj Warrier: No, that 20000 was for the pipe line..it was not for the (stops)
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(speaks on another call?)
Niira Radia: Venkat?
Niira Radia: Venkat, MDA is there?
Niira Radia: Call me back, please..ok..thanks..fine phone call gets cut off)
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Niira Radia: Haan..kya?
Manoj Warrier: No, 20,000 was for the pipe line.
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Niira Radia: Haan, but pipeline is what? Separate, is it?
Manoj Warrier: Yeah, Yeah, separate.
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Niira Radia: So what is this for 80, 80, 81 V?
Manoj Warrier: Ya. Do you remember that story had come about mineral oil and the definition of mineral oil — did not include natural gas
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Manoj Warrier: That was done in 2007. That Mineral Oil Bill only being oil and petroleum products not natural gas.
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Manoj Warrier: They wanted a clarification that it includes natural gas so that the 7 year tax holiday could be availed of.
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Manoj Warrier: But apparently ministry now has told ET that it is not — RIL will not get any benefit– it will be from the future NELP blocks, that is NELP 8.
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Niira Radia: Who has told, finance ministry or finance minister?
Manoj Warrier: Finance Ministry (with stress)
Niira Radia: Ministry (with stress)
Manoj Warrier: Yeah
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Niira Radia: Aha...(pauses) So such news is good for you right now, na?
Manoj Warrier: (silent)
Niira Radia:<i> Tumne bola paanch sector ka 50,000 crore benefit milegaa?</i> (You said a profit of 50,000 crores will be gotten from 5 sectors)
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Manoj Warrier: <i>Ha, bola to thaa</i> (Ya I did say that)
Niira Radia: <i>Chori chori..</i> (Stealthily..)
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Manoj Warrier: Ha But I don’t think that anyone is doing 20000 story.. <i>to phirse ye udega..20000 ki...50000 crore fix kar denge..</i> (Then this will fly again, that 50,000 will get fixed)
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Niira Radia: Nahi, are they doing the story that Reliance will not get any benefit?
Manoj Warrier: Sorry?
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Niira Radia: Are they doing the story that Reliance will not get any benefit?
Manoj Warrier: Haan, currently they are doing that story
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Niira Radia: So what they are saying that it is not in a prospective basis ..not.. it is only valid from future NELPs
Manoj Warrier: NELP-8 NELP- 8
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Niira Radia: Haan?
Manoj Warrier: It will be applicable from NELP-8
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Niira Radia: NELP-8
Manoj Warrier: Yeah
Niira Radia: Ok.

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Nira: Hello!
Ravi: Nira<i>ji</i>, Ravi!
Nira: Hi Ravi.
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Ravi: MD will speak to you.
Nira: Ok!
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Mukesh: Hi Nira!
Nira: Hi! The ministry confirmed that... This issue is only relevant for Neltech.
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Mukesh: Very good.
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Nira: So that is something that they have already confirmed. I just thought I'd let you know they have issued a statement.
Mukesh: Which ministry?
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Nira: Finance ministry.
Mukesh: Ahh!
Nira: They gave a... Apparently they have given ET...(Unclear)...
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Mukesh: Ahh!
Nira: So they called us and said that it is only relevant for... That's what ET called us and said they have got a comment.
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Nira: Hi Bittu!
Bittu: Hi! How are you?
Nira: I am fine. How are you?
Bittu: Did you get my SMS?
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Nira: No!
Bittu: <i>Arrey</i>! I sent an SMS to you.
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Nira: No! I have got no SMS from you.
Bittu: Basically I am told that ICICI Bank account has come to you.
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Nira: No I have not even pitched for it so how can it come to me?
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Bittu: No, no, I'Il tell you between me and you, I met someone internally there.
Nira: <i>Haan</i> (Yes)! But it's not true.
Bittu: And...
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Nira: I haven't even met them Biju.
Bittu: Ahh! Then they will ask you actually.
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Nira: It is not like we have not been called. They have been keen to talk to us but I just...
Bittu: Ahh! That means my information is right.
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Nira: No but I have not even met them yet so it can't be coming to us yet na?
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Bittu: Oh! <i>Acha, acha</i>! Because what I had heard from from top people is that they are very keen actually.
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Bittu: That is why I send an SMS to you another feather in your cap ICICI Bank account.
Nira: No I never got. I never got it.
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Bittu: Oh <i>acha</i>! Sorry, sorry. Because I send it to you immediately when I got that...
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Nira: Honestly, honestly I would have... You know how I respond to you straight away if I get a message.
Bittu: No, no, see! What happened, there was a conversation happened.
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Nira: Hmm!
Bittu: And then they said that how, then I told them, I mean they have done a fabulous job for Tata and now they are doing it for Reliance so then they said yaa, yaa.
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Bittu: Then we will. I saw basically already internally they have decided.
Nira: Hmm!
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Bittu: And then I got the impression like that, that is why I send an SMS. Otherwise I would told you that they are talking to you.
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Nira: Hmm! Because they have got... They are with AD Factors no?
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Bittu: Ahh! That I think that they want somebody else and it can be Delhi this thing and all. <i>Kuch</i> clout <i>chahiye </i> ( Some clout is needed.) That is what I heard.
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Nira: They need people who have got...They have got their own clout no? Why do they need others?
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Bittu: No, <i> nahi... </i> (No...) ... new CEO wants new clout and all actually.
Nira: Ehuh! Ehuh!
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Bittu: That is why that thing came up actually. This is strictly between me and you aa! Please!
Nira: No, no, ofcourse, ofcourse.
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Bittu: Because I was there when you got the first account of Tata's that is why I am telling you that.
Nira: (Laughs.)
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Bittu: So I just thought that, then I said I, what I could do I also told them that they have... I didn't say I said like this that they have done a fabulous job for Tata's.
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Nira: Hmm!
Bittu: So Reliance also, that is why Mukesh Ambani normally doesn't give any outside PR. They have got that.
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Nira: Hmm!
Bittu: So they said yaa, we will... The way they were talking is that they will call you or something like that actually.
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Nira: Yaa, I know they have been... I mean they have been saying that we should meet but you know I have been so caught up and then our dates were never meeting so may be that is why...
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Bittu: Oh! <i>Acha, acha</i>!
Nira: They fact that I have not even them first. So I wouldn't say that I have got it.
Bittu: Oh! <i>Acha, acha</i>! So then they must be internally thinking about it actually.
Nira: Hmm!
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Bittu: Because what impression I got, that is why I came out of that building and then SMSed to you another feather in the cap ICICI Bank account.
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Bittu: Then I didn't get an SMS. Then I thought that...
Nira: No, no, no. I didn't get your SMS. I would have responded to you straight away you know that.
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Bittu: Ok, ok, ok! Anyway I think that you are on their radar.
Nira: (Laughs). Ok that is nice to know. That is nice to know. How are you? How are things?
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Bittu: I am fine. How do you like... There is a change in the Tata's this thing now?
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Nira: Yes I think so. I think so. There is a big change, yaa!
Bittu: So that is why I told you that you should speak to Subuma.
Nira: Hmm!
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Bittu: I think you had a meeting with him no?
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Nira: No, I had a meeting with him. I meet Rajiv Verma and Shobna and everyone. So we dealt with it in terms of what were the issues. So yaa, there is a change.
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Bittu: Ok. Yaa, that is why. That is why I told you if you talk to them directly then there will be much more change actually because I don't think they will be going after people or something like that. We don't believe in that actually.
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Nira: Well I don't know. I mean, you know. There is a tendency sometimes. Atleast against RIL there is still not a change.
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Bittu: But I think. I don't think so. Basically that episode is over. Taking that pamphlet and writing it that thing is over. It will be more check and balances actually now. Hmm!
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Nira: Yaa because that one thing I had insisted with Rajiv Verma, because Buma was going all over the place no? Buma and Kushbu.
Bittu: Hmm!
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Nira: You know that.
Bittu: See basically they should stop this taking lease and then writing it actually infact I was telling Manoj actually.
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Nira: Hmm!
Bittu: Unless we stop it. Then I said that I wanted to meet PMS. He said they will expect a this thing kind of a story actually.
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Bittu: I said see boss. <i> Eisa nahi karega...</i> (We won't do it like this...) that we will ask some questions. He will answer. We will put it actually.
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Nira: Hmm! Hmm! We'll do a meeting with you and PMS. I have been telling Manoj that that needs to be done. The Bombay meetings need to happen. So...
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Bittu: Yaa! Whatever. It's... Whenever he is available. Not to rush it.
Nira: Hmm!
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Bittu: But whenever he is available we would like to spend atleast one hour with him so we can have a full fledged interview.
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Bittu: He can tell us what he wants to say and all. Then we can put it as a quote and...
Nira: But you know we are right now in court so a lot of the matter is sub judice actually.
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Bittu: No, no, let the court thing be over.
Nira: Hmm!
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Bittu: And say<i> aaram se... </i> (at a relaxed pace...) Whenever he is very comfortable to speak.
Nira: Right, right because...
Bittu: I am not rushing.
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Nira: Because this thing has gone a bit out of control. I mean if you think about it.
Bittu: Yaa!
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Nira: I mean I can't understand that how a country's national assets can be just divided up between a family you know.
Bittu: Yaa! (Laughs.)
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Nira: I said this to Mukesh also. I mean it is very unfortunate <i>na</i>?
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Bittu: Hmm! And also someone is... I think there is some....people are feeling up because I heard from some people that they had filed a PIL against this and all. National asset is...
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Nira: I am sure people will. I am sure people will file and I am sure people will get fed up. There are enough people out there.
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Nira: Everyone I go to keeps on telling me the same. But the thing is, you know even the MOU.
Bittu: Hmm!
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Nira: It was subject to government approval.
Bittu: That is right.
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Nira: So you know, you can't say that give me everything for 50% discount no?
Bittu: Hmm! Hmm!
Nira: I mean the price was never in the MOU.
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Bittu: Ahh haa! haa!
Nira: So all this you know, you can't... You just can't cheat you way all the way, you know. All the time.
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Nira: All the time there is the same thing that I am the underdog. I am the younger brother. I should be given something different. You know. That is not good.
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Bittu: Hmm! That sentiments. He is playing around those. And also that he should concentrate on the... I mean not because of... See power projects and all he should do <i>na</i>.
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Nira: He should develop the... you know, Baiju he is...( Unclear)...
Bittu: He has got. He raised 10 billion dollars in 2007. 5 billion dollars ACB. 2.5 billion IPO. Then another 2.5 billion dollars.
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Nira: Now if you tell me 10 billion dollars in funds. He is still asking the court for a bankruptcy agreement.
Bittu: Hmm!
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Nira: ...(Unclear).
Bittu: That is true and also that I am told that he is talking to hawk Reliance Communication also.
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Nira: He is trying to sell it to AT&T no?
Bittu: Ahh! That is what I heard actually.
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Nira: But between you and me they will come for a ROFR. I have been getting feelers from AT&T.
Bittu: Yaa! Because...
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Nira: That you know why doesn't Mukesh not come in the way. My view is very clear that the question doesn't arise.
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Nira: You know. Bijju I just got PMS on the line can you give me two minutes ill call you back?
Bittu: Yaa! Yaa! <i> Aram se...</i> (Relax) Whenever you get time.
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Ganpathy: Hello!
Nira: Hi Ganpathy!
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Ganpathy: Hi, good morning!
Nira: Good morning! How are you?
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Ganpathy: Very fine thanks. How are you?
Nira: I am ok. How is the budget?
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Ganpathy: Yaa! Yesterday I got very late so I said. That is why I didn't call.
Nira: Ehuh!
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Ganpathy: Also all the... You know, some of the guests who came to our program...
Nira: Haa!
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Ganpathy: Stayed till 10 o'clock. So while they were just... You know after that they were leaving home so they were chatting for a little while.
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Ganpathy: All this Bide was there. Ashok Chawla was there. I said, you know it is important to make contact with Bide no?
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Nira: Hmm! But Bide is completely with ADAG.
Ganpathy: Ahh! No, no but see we have to give him <i> chavi </i> (key) <i>na</i>?
Nira: Ahh!
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Ganpathy: So I said... Also I gave... I cultivate him a little bit then I will be able to cultivate his officers as well. Even if he doesn't work then he will get them to do things.
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Nira: Hmm!
Ganpathy: So that is what. I spend some time with them... Also the CBC chap also. The CBC chairman, that Jha!
Nira: Hmm!
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Ganpathy: There then CBDT chairman Moorthi. Ashok Chawla was also there.
Ganpathy: I said, let's see, you know. Chat up these people and then you know.
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Ganpathy: You have told me enough lot of things related to these departments which will come up.
Nira: Hmm! Hmm!
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Ganpathy: So I said lets have a sort of...
Nira: Hmm!
Ganpathy: Touching base with them.
Nira: Hmm!
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Ganpathy: Today is the this thing <i>na</i>? Mention?
Nira: 11:30. They will give a date for Monday.
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Ganpathy: Ehh! No, no. Ok. So...
Nira: They will be... Even our side is appearing. So they will give a date. We will say <i>na</i>, that we have have also filed.
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Ganpathy: Haa! Haa! So it will just be a mention and then taking note of the point that it is admitted, <i>hai na</i>? (isn't it?)
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Nira: No, no. Admitted <i>abhi nahi hoga. Abhi toh admitted ke leye argument honge.</i> (Admission will not happen now, Now there will be arguments for admitted.)
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Ganpathy: <i>Acha</i>! (Okay) So even before the admission they will listen... Because I thought since both parties have come in appeal...
Nira: Hmm!
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Ganpathy: Anyway there is no question of not admitting it <i>na</i>. When anyway both people are in appeal.
Nira: ... And said it is a government policy issue. Please go to the government.
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Ganpathy: Hmm! Yaa! Yaa! Instead if I had to do that then it is a totally different case.
Nira: Hmm!
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Ganpathy: But on the point of admitting and not admitting both sides are on the same page.
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Nira: It will have to be admitted <i>na</i>?
Ganpathy: They want the intervention of this court in...
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Nira: That's right. That's right. But maybe it will get admitted and they will say that let's meet on, you know. Let's hear it on Monday. Week Monday.
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Ganpathy: Yaa, yaa! Maybe the papers have to be submitted before that and all.
Nira: The papers are all given to everyone <i>na</i>.
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Ganpathy: Ok <i>na</i>, they might have to give more affidavits and all <i>na</i> now.
Nira: Emm! Yaa each side yaa!
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Ganpathy: Yaa and since there are caveats from both sides so each one will also get opportunity to file a counter affidavit.
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Nira: Correct.
Ganpaty: So those things will be there so anyway whatever development is there please do let me know. I am in constant touch with both Rohini and Supria.
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Nira: Ehuh!
Ganpathy: To develop different line of stories. One Supria on the Supreme Court and with Rohini I have told her to focus on this business of how the fertiliser and others are now going to get affected.
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Nira: Hmm!
Ganpathy: So we will walk on both sides.
Nira: I told you <i>na</i> she is coming to see me ehh!
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Ganpathy: Yaa, yaa! Good good.
Nira: <i> Toh uska kya karu vo usko mai GVK ka letter du? </i> ( So what should I do about her, should I give her the GVK letter?)
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Ganpathy: <i> Haan! haan! De dijiye. </i> ( Yes, yes! Give it.) Whatever letters we have let us share it.
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Nira: <i> Nahi </i> (No) but question is that I have told... The thing is that I will only give it if I am promised a front page tomorrow huh! Because it is a very critical letter.
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Ganpathy: Yaa, yaa! You tell her that this is you know. She should make sure that it is front page tomorrow and in the mean while I will also do some ground work. Speak to people.
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Nira: Shall I send you the GVK letter?
Ganpathy: Yaa, yaa! And some state government letters you said <i>na</i> we have them as well?
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Nira: It's not come in yet.
Ganpathy: Ehuh! Ok, ok!
Nira: But I don't want to do it at the same time <i>na</i>.
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Nira: I am not going to do it at the same time because I have got enough state government letters that have come in.
Ganpathy: Ehuh!
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Nira: And I don't want to do all of it at the same time.
Ganpathy: Ok fine let's do a, take a... you know give site a couple of examples of industry letters now and do them.
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Nira: Haa!
Ganpathy: And then go to the state government letters later and I also thought you said <i>na</i> there is some gist and some copy of the petition etc.
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Nira: Yaa! I sent it to you yesterday. Didn't you get the copy of the petition?
Ganpathy: No!
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Nira: How strange!
Ganpathy: No, no, wait, wait, wait. If it is in my mail in the later part of the day I might not have just seen it at all.
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Nira: Ok,ok. I told Rohit yesterday to get it across to you.
Ganpathy: Ehah! But by hard copy or by mail?
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Nira: Hard copy.
Ganpathy: No hard copy means it has not reached me because yesterday I was on the move constantly you know between North Block and Shasthri Bhawan and our studio etc.
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Ganpathy: So therefore I may not have seen it. So it may not have been possible for him to reach me etc.
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Niira Radia calling A. Raja is put on hold and stays on hold for a long time
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A. Raja: Tell me, Nira
Niira Radia: The thing is that the Congress has been totally confused as to who they need to speak to.
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A. Raja: Huh?
Niira Radia: Who they need to speak to in the DMK
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A. Raja: Ah... somebody should reply to Leader.
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Niira Radia: No, no... That is why, I have now... they're going to speak to Kani in a little while, and then Kani is going to take them to Leader directly, and let Kani...
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A. Raja: That is good, that is good.
Niira Radia: Yeah? I have done... just told them that, because they're completely confused who to talk to. Yeah?
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A. Raja: Let them talk to Kani
Niira Radia: Yeah, but Kani should also be sensible enough to say that she does not want anything for herself. No? I have told her that...
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A. Raja: Hmm
Niira Radia: ...but you also make sure.
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A. Raja: No problem
Niira Radia: I told them. I told them that whatever...
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A. Raja: See, tell Kani: let her call Leader, (tell him) this is the problem, shall I bring the people?
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Niira Radia: Yeah, because what they're saying is that they will not give infrastructure to Baalu and Maran. They should say that to Leader directly, no?
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A. Raja: No problem. Look See... let them go along with Kani, and let them tell that we are having problem with these fellows
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Niira Radia: That's right. That's what they have to do... they were confused... what happened is: for the UPA meeting, Maran went along... so they think Maran is the interlocutor, he is the person who's going to talk, so there is this...
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A. Raja: Not at all. He came for assistance, that's all
Niira Radia: No. I know, but you see this is a wrong message that has gone out, and they don't know

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Sound of the ringtone (Pal pal pal pal har pal har pal.. kaise katega pal.. )
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Radia: Hello..
Caller: (Inaudible) <i>Usko pata yeh sab jo ho raha hai?</i> (Does he know all this that is happening?)
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Radia: <i>Umm...usko SMS de diya hai</i>
(Umm.. I have sent him an SMS)
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Caller: <i>Chalo main bhej deta hoon uskao, waise bhi uska</i> bureau <i>shayad wahaan se</i> file <i>kar raha hai</i> (Okay, I'll send it to him. Anyway, his bureau might be filing it from there.)
Radia: Hmm.. what about the others?
Caller: Huh?
Radia: <i>Baki?</i> (Others?)
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Caller: Actually Jammu media is following at it primarily because <i>jo bhi yahan pe tha woh sab logon ne apne apne</i> bureaus <i> ko haan keh diya, Jammu mein</i> (whatever was here, they all have sent their bureaus to Jammu) to follow it up.. and <i>shyaam ko</i> (in the evening) I think they have managed that guy, SP... J P Singh..
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Caller: I was talking to a reporter from Sahara who is the bureau chief from there. They said he is in Delhi only. <i>Toh wo banda jo hai,</i> (inaudible) manage <i>karenge</i> (Roughly translates to: That guy is such that he will be managed.) The way he has written the press release.. <i>toh usne</i> RCom <i>ka kahin yeh sab</i> generalize <i>kar diya</i>.. (he has generalized everything.)
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Radia: No, agreed, but he has already got a - RCom <i>ka</i> already <i>aa chuka hai na</i> (but RCom's this has already arrived right?)
Caller: <i>Haan aaj subah Hindi</i> media man <i>tha wahan pe</i> (Yes.. today the Hindi media man was there).
Radia: <i>Haan</i> (Yes)
Caller: <i>Dainik Jagran ki</i> front page <i>hui thi</i> (Dainik Jagran front page was there today)
Radia: So media knows this is RCom <i>na</i> so that continuity can be there, that it was RCom that was in question, <i>na</i>?
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Caller: Anyway that Indian Express and Amar Ujala and Dainik Jagran.. they are doing...<i>jo unme</i> story <i>kari thi woh</i> follow up story <i>woh aise bhi kar rahein hai ki</i> (the follow up story they're doing..) that FIR has been registered against all those guys.. but the problem was that in the evening, <i>aadha ghanta pehle</i> officially press release issue <i>kar diya jisme inhone kisi ka naam nahin liya</i> (Now half an hour ago they officially issued a press release in which they have not mentioned anyone's name)..
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Caller: <i>Aur</i> generalize <i>kar diya</i> (and they have generalized).. <i>Aur</i> (inaudible)<i> ka jo tha woh bhi angle hata diya</i> (And they even removed the -inaudible - angle!)..<i>usne keh diya ki</i> (they said that) the only reason they was that they were trying to earn some more profit out of this.
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Radia: That's even worse na. <i>DOD ko press release jaana hi chahiye</i> (And the press release should go to DOD right?)
Caller: <i>Woh toh kal hum logon ko karna padega alag se</i> (Yes. That they will have to do separately tomorrow.) In media we can't do this.. unofficially <i>hum woh </i> press release <i>wahaan bhej sakte hain aur yeh aaya yahaan</i>, (we can send that press release there.. and this one can come here...)
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Radia: Chandolia <i>ke paas sab</i> dossier articles <i>ka joh</i> Jammu <i>se aaya hai, tum</i> download <i>karwalu abhi </i> (inaudible) <i>se</i> (The articles which are with Chandolia, you get -inaudible- to download them).. we have somebody in Jammu right, who does our tracking?
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Caller: (Inaudible)
Radia: Okay okay.. if you just get somebody to send you all the articles, both Hindi and this thing..<i>yeh pura</i> dossier <i>jo aaj sab </i> front pages <i>pe tha, woh manga ke...jo kal aayega, woh</i> press release <i>ka ek</i> dossier, >i>usse kehna ki</i> Minister <i>ke</i> private secretary <i>ke paas bhijwa de</i> (The dossier which was on the front pages there today.. get those plus one which will come tomorrow and a dossier of the press release.. just tell them to be sent to the private secretary of the Minister.)
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Radia: <i>Aur ek mere liye copy rakh lena, main kal dopahar ko Minister ko milne jaa rahi hoon. main khud de doongi usko..</i>
(And keep one copy for me.. I'll give it myself when I go across to meet him). But then also let us.. yeah we have managed it very well.
Caller: Yes yes, they have managed it. <i>Woh shyaam ko </i> actually statement <i> toh bhej diya tha</i>(inaudible) (That statement has been sent in the evening -inaudible-) (Inaudible) <i>apna</i> official <i>koi</i> involve <i>nahin tha</i> vendor <i>ya koi yeh tha, pata nahin koi</i> middle man <i> hoga jo </i> arrest <i>hua hai, is taraha ke </i> statement <i> diya tha unhone</i>.( -Inaudible- none of our officials are involved, must have been some vendor or middle man who has been arrested, such a statement was given.) But I believe that they have managed SSP also.
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Caller: Let's discuss...<i>chalo kuch aur karte hain</i> (let's do something else..)
Radia: Unless the media puts pressure on the SSP to name the operator.
Caller: (Inaudible) Sahara <i> ka woh...lekin </i> Sahara <i>ka</i> problem <i>kya hai ki </i> RCom <i> ka </i> (inaudible) (-Inaudible- Sahara's problem is that RCom -inaudible-)
Radia: Sahara <i>ka toh</i> relationship <i>bilkul nahi hai</i> Anil ke <i>saath</i> (Sahara has no relationship with Anil).
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Caller: No?
Radia: No.. Amar Singh..
Caller: <i>Yeh sara ka sara</i> information <i>usi ne mujhe nikal ke diya</i> (All this information was extracted and given by them only.)
Radia: No no of Sahara's relationship with Amar Singh is over right?
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Caller: <i>Usko nahin pata hoga kyunki woh top level pe hota hoga and yeh neeche ki level pe hoga</i> so he's not aware of that (He does not know because this must be happening at the top level and this guy is at the lower level.)
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Radia: No be he should be told. It's been over a long time ago. I have been doing a lot of MTNL stories.
Caller: The problem is that he stays in Jammu so he doesn't know what other developments are happening in Delhi and elsewhere.
Radia: <i>Toh usko bata do na</i> (Then tell him).
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Caller: <i> Main bol doonga usko. Yeh sara information usi ne mujhe nikal ke diya. Woh release ka mail bana ke sab kuch uski ne diya mujhe</i> (Okay I will tell him right now. He extracted all the information for me. He made a mail of the release and sent it to everyone).
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Radia: <i>Rohit ko bolo woh Rabinder ko Star mein phone kare. Pehle tum Star wale correspondent se baat karo na</i> (Tell Rohit to call Rabinder in Star. First talk to the correspondent in Star)..That he should also speak to the SSP and also ask him who is the operator. Today papers have reported RCom. Are you investigating more than one operator?
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Caller: <i>Nahin uski ne mujhe bataya ki RCom ka hai woh. Yeh saare Rcomm ke hai yeh usi ne mujhe bataya. Uske baad jo press release aayi hai, usi ne mujhe diya ki press release aayi hai</i>
(No the person who was talking told me that he is of Rcomm. He told me that these all belong to Rcomm. Then he told me about the press release that came later).. The point is that officially the SSP prime is saying and he is not naming any operator.
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Caller: Then the problem for the publication is that.. if an official press release comes which does not have any operator's name, then publication cannot go on their own and publish the name of any operator.. that is the problem.
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Caller: <i> Yeh officially press release aaya tha jisme kisi ka bhi naam nahin hai. Kal jo bhi kuch hua tha usme official kuch nahin tha </i> (Because officially a press release came without any name on it.. whatever was there yesterday had nothing official about it) .. in fact Dainik Jagran also had it on the front page today... in Jammu..
Radia: In Dainik Jagran too RCom has come?
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Caller: <i> Haan woh front page pe diya wahan pe.. aur peeche bhi kuch kiya tha wahaan pe.. inka toh pata hai ma'am ki woh jo Pathak hai woh </i> (inaudible)
(Yes yes that has come on the front page.. and they had something on the last page too.. we know about them ma'am that Pathak gets).. in fact i am in touch with Batra..
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Caller: <i> Ab Batra ka kya karne ka hai batao </i> (Now tell me what to do about Batra) .. he also has messed up things..
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Caller: <i> Uska kuch karna padega, alag se kuch karenge</i>.. (we have to do something about him separately.)
Radia: Hmm..<i>Pathak ka toh kuch karna hi padega</i> (We have to do something about Pathak..)
Caller: We have two strong groups.. the biggest.. Tatas and RIL.. if we leave them they are not going to give any information..
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Radia: I think we should start doing them I had told Vishal earlier too..
Caller: <i>Maine Rohit ko bhi kaha hai boss.. agar karna hai toh across the table baith ke negotiate karte hai na</i>
(I have told Rohit too ma'am.. if we have to then let's talk across the table and negotiate..)
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Caller: Either do it or negotiate... we are not going to give any information to you. And they can't afford to ignore two big groups.
Radia: That's right.
Caller: Just for the sake of Anil.
Radia: Correct, correct.
Caller: We have to take a (inaudible).
Radia: Okay let's do that. I have been saying this to Vishal for a long time.
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Caller: We have to take a strong lesson. Let's talk across the table and let's take a call. You want to go ahead with Anil or RIL or Tata. Take a call.
Radia: That's right. Absolutely.
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Caller: Otherwise they will take us for granted. And that is what they have been doing. That is precisely what they have been doing.
Radia: Yes yes.. I have been telling him.. I have been saying that you know.. I don't want to touch Pathak's nerve..
Caller: Ma'am there is no question of talking to Pathak.. Last time when that RCom story happened for a week I was pursuing him.. Sunil started it, and informed Pathak and Pathak abused me and I said I don't care boss..
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Caller: If you ran a story against Tatas, then why can't you do this? That report of Kotak, for a week I was branding lies..
Radia: Then do one thing, tell Pathak tomorrow that you tried yesterday. And now, we will have to take a call.
Caller: But what is Pathak's involvement.. ? I have been in touch with this guy Sunil.. I checked with Sunil and sorted out.. but internally we have to take a stand..
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Radia: No, I am with you Atul.. let's meet tomorrow..
(Inaudible, both speaking at the same time)
Caller: Let's have a meeting all of us together.. take a call on this and then I will take it forward..
Radia: Correct, correct.. perfect.. we will do that.. okay..

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Phone rings (Pal pal pal pal har pal har pal.. kaise katega pal har pal har pal.. )
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Yatish: Hello.. I am Yatish..
Radia: Yatish, <i>kya hua, us</i> conference call ka kya hua</i>? (What happened to the conference call?)
Yatish: Ma'am <i> woh </i> Ajit <i>ka</i> message <i> aaya tha, </i> (Ajit messaged that) Raja has still not confirmed that.
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Radia: So when are we gonna do it? (Inaudible), <i>aaj mera </i> Raja <i>hai</i> (today I have Raja).. I am like running from pillar to post today.
Yatish: <i>Haan mereko pata hai </i> (Yes I know) ma'am. <i>Maine</i> morning <i>mein bhi</i> message <i>dala tha</i> (I had dropped a message in the morning too). So, the thing was I still have to check. I will check with Raja and let you know. <i>Main phir se ek baar dal deta hoon</i> (I will send another message.)
Radia: We have to let others know. So, tell him to confirm. Because today then I will have a problem because <i>maine bhaag na hai</i> (I have to run). Because I am coming to office... I don't know what time I will reach office.. I also have to go and meet Raja and the others.. I am right now rushing between a few things.
Yatish: Okay
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Yatish: Any specific time you want <i> abhi ki</i> (right now or) you won't be available..
Radia: Budget <i>ka</i> print out <i> leke rakh lo</i> please, (Please take a print out of the budget and keep it.)
Yatish: Ok
Radia: <i>Main aa jaungi char-panch baje tak</i>, office. (I will be in office by 4 or 5.)
Yatish: <i>Theek hai</i> (Ok).
Radia: If I can finish early enough with Kani.. so I will come quickly..
Yatish: Ok
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Radia: <i>Tum ek kaam karna </i> (You do one thing).. I will be on my way to Gurgaon from South Avenue.. I will reach back at CP probably that way at 4.30. Now do me one favour.. take out the printout and also take out that creditor list complete.. (of) previous creditors <i>ki</i> right?
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Radia: And all the complete this thing, current this thing. <i>Aur ek kaam kar lo</i> Manoj Warrier <i>se baat karo</i> (And do one thing. speak to Manoj Warrior).. tell him Vir Sanghvi <i>ka</i> interview CNN-IBN, CNBC <i>iske saath hai</i> (Vir Sanghvi has interviews on CNBC and CNN-IBN). He wants to interview Mukesh Ambani.. so, Manoj has to send me a mail and also has to prepare questions that Vir Sanghvi should ask Mukesh.. he has agreed to do whatever questions that we suggest..
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Radia: And it is a series...a fresh series starting by Vir Sanghvi...he will be doing interviews.. for the next few weeks that he wants to start with Mukesh Ambani or Ratan Tata.. so <i>usse jo bhi humne, jo </i> messaging <i>humne abhi karni hai</i>, for this yeat. (whatever messaging we have to do for this year), it's a great opportunity to do it now...<i>ek to yeh hai</i> (this is one thing). <i>Dusra</i> Suresh Rangarajan <i>ko bolo, lekin</i> Jonathan <i>ko bolo</i> (Second, likewise tell Suresh Rangarajan but tell Jonathan.)
Yatish: Okay
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Radia: Because Jonathan will understand it better
Yatish: Right, right
Radia: And Suresh <i>ko bhi bol do na</i> (tell Suresh too)... thirdly <i>ek</i> mail <i>bhej do meri </i> mail <i> se</i> Debashish <i>ko</i>, Ravikant <i>ko </i> and uh, <i>isko, uh,</i> (Send a mail from my box to Devashish, Ravikant) and to Suresh and Jonathan and Vishal to say that today I had a call from Bodhisattva Ganguly from ET
Yatish: Bodhi Ganguly?
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Radia: Yes.. from ET.. he is the resident editor of ET.. he had called me for something else.. but discussed the RBI issue and SBI right? He found it very disturbed.. that RBI should have allowed this..
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Radia:...and was questioning the behind the scene effort.. that would have gone on... in order to...for Tatas to achieve this through SBI. I smell a serious agenda here... right? We already know that Bohdi is already very, very entrenched with another group.. right? I'm just alerting you, because it matters with us because we must take notice of this..
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Radia: He was almost sounding angry.. with both SBI and RBI for having even allowed this.
Yatish: For allowing this bank guarantee to go through?
Radia: Yeah.
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Radia: So I smell a very serious agenda with ET, Bombay. I don't want to name the groups but you can guess.. that they are attached to...And I would like this to be...I am just flagging this off now because it's important. He almost was crying on the phone. In which case you can mention I had to tell him, why has he forgotten about it?
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Radia: So I spoke to his...you know... his intentions on this...and I said to him, why are you worried about him? Why are you worried about...you should be happy that (inaudible) supported ! But eventually he -
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Radia: Hello?
Mohan: Hello
Radia: Hello?
Mohan: <i>Haanji</i> (inaudible).
Radia: <i>Haan</i> (Yes) Mohan, how are you?
Mohan: I am fine.
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Radia: <i>Maine aapko ek SMS bheja tha</i> (I had sent you an SMS)
Mohan: <i>Haan woh kya samajh mein nahi aaya tha</i> (Yeah, I didn't understand that.)
Radia: It was about industry secretary.. for West Bengal government.. IAS officer, 1977 batch.. additional secretary (inaudible). (In hindi, inaudible, but roughly translates to - ) He is already the additional secretary.. he is applying for Central..
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Radia: <i>Toh meri baat hui kal mantri se</i> (I spoke to the Minister yesterday).. he said we can talk about it...but he is a very good guy... <i>Miloge?</i> (Will you meet him?) ..
Mohan: Next week <i>karte hain</i> (Let's meet next week).
Radia: Where are you? At home?
Mohan: No, I am in office..
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Radia: <i>Achha.. mujhe bataa do..</i>(Okay.. let me know).. I'm only here till Monday, I am going on Tuesday to Bombay.
Mohan: Okay, fine
Radia: I am here till Monday to sort out all the other things. Then I am leaving on...but we can meet on Monday right?
Mohan: <i>Haan</i> Monday <i>subah baat karke milte hai</i> (Yes Monday morning we will speak and meet...)
Radia: Okay great. Bye.

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Radia: Hi Noel.
NT: Hi Nira. I checked up. Yeah, it's not an issue to say that the board recommended to the shareholders.. the last.. rather than saying yesterday's board meeting which sounds contrived for this.. they will say at the last board meeting of trend the directors have recommended to the shareholders that Mr. Tata's Managing Director contract be renewed for another five years.
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Radia: Right
NT: Huh? And they said they don't disclose it to the stock exchange because it's not price sensitive information.
Radia: Okay fine. Okay. So I'll just they say that it was a last board meeting as a last meeting of (inaudible) to recommend it... but fine... write to the shareholders. I'll word it and I will put it on your mail and then I will tell him that the very premise of your query is therefore wrong and we don't comment on market speculation. Yeah. I will put it that way.
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Radia: <i>Chalo</i>...sorry about that...
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NT: No! Not at all! What can you do? That's when - These are the times when the fact that I never speak to anybody comes to my rescue you know..
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Radia: Isn't it! But that doesn't mean you don't speak.
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Radia:...Which is why I stopped the Business World story and shifted it to Business Today because I got the questions I wanted. The questions that they wanted.. they couldn't resist the succession issue and they said, 'No we have to discuss even if it's off the record' I said, 'I'm sorry, on record or off record, that will not happen.' Then they said, no we'll - okay if we do retail and we won't give you cover.. I said, 'I'm sorry, no cover, I'm not talking'.
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Radia: Then immediately they shaded it out and anyway.. Business Today has come with their set of questions which is just right...
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Phone Rings
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Radia: Vishal..
VM: <i>Haan</i> (Yes)
Radia: <i>(Inaudible) baat karo</i> (Speak to -)
Radia: <i>Kyon ki</i> Prabhu <i>ka</i> call <i>gaya abhi Ranjan ko</i> (Because Prabhu called Ranjan (Bhattacharya) now.. <i>ki </i> Mukesh <i>se baat karaa de</i> (requesting conversation with Mukesh).. Anil is their head.. ask Mukesh to be careful and this that and the other..
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Radia: <i>Toh maine</i> Prabhu <i>ko</i> phone <i>kiya, woh</i> lunch <i>mein hai</i> (So I called Prabhu, he's out for lunch.) But he'll call me back. But, in the meantime, <i>tum ek bar</i> Shankar (Aiyar)<i> se baat kar ke mujhe</i> feedback (inaudible, but roughly translates to the following: You call Shankar and give me feedback as soon as possible). Just understand from Shankar <i>ki</i> key points <i>kya aa rahen hein</i> (what the key points are).
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Radia: Shankar <i>ka ek </i> understanding <i>hai na, tum baat to kar sakte ho</i> Shankar <i>se</i> (Shankar understands, right? You can speak to Shankar, right?)
--Ya, of course... --
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Radia: <i> Ek baar baat kar lo, </i> please, (Talk to him and call me please,) because before I speak to Prabhu, I need to know what his mind is.
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VM: <i>Theek hai.</i>. Okay.
Radia: Okay, thanks bye.
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Hello.. I will pass on the phone to Miss Radia sir..
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(in Hindi "<i>uski ghand le li...khoob zor se</i>", some discussion about taking someone's case (or ass), quite severely)
(ensuing laughter and silence while phone is being passed)
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Radia: Hi..
Caller: <i>Woh chitthi bhijwa diya aapko?</i> (Did you get that letter?)
Radia: <i>Bhijwa diya, maine aage bhijwa diya, sab kuch kar diya</i> (It was sent, and I've forwarded it too. All done.)
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Caller: Well done! Well done! ...Good work.
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Radia: Yes well done! Fabulous!
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Caller: <i>Toh, chalo phir abhi Vikram se baat ho raha hai</i> (Okay now we are in conversation with Vikram).. And he's gonna call me in ten minutes and then we are gonna call Ravi also.
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Radia: Okay great. And I am taking the letter with me when I meet Mr Tata tonight.
Caller: Fantastic !
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Radia: And I will set up the timing for 10 July onwards, <i>na</i>?
Caller: 10 July, ok, <i>bata sakti hain, mujhe ki</i> London <i>karna hai</i>, New York <i>karna hai</i>, Bombay <i>karna hai</i>, (but let me know if it should be London, New York, Bombay -)
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Pal pal pal pal...(Phone rings)
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Niira Radia: Yeah? Hello?
Jehangir Pocha: Hi.
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Niira: Hi, yeah?
Jehangir Pocha: Listen, we have a big problem here, man.
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NR: What?
JP: Our salaries are due but the money has not come in yet.
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NR: Salaries are -?
JP: Due...and the cash has not come yet.
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NR: When are they due?
JP: Due on the first, <i>na</i>?
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NR: <i>Haan...toh aa jayega na first ko.</i> (Yes, then it will arrive on the first.)
JP: First is Monday.
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NR: <i>Haan, toh tumhe</i> Monday release <i>karna hai na,</i> payments <i>ko?</i> Okay, let me call him. How much is the - I don't know how much Rajeev has asked. <i>Maine</i> budget <i>toh bhej diya.</i> (Yes, so you have to release the payments on Monday, right? I don't know how much Rajeev has asked. I've sent the budget.)
JP: Listen to me,<i> na</i>. Today is Friday night. Even if we send the money tomorrow, it will barely come on Monday, we have to issue our own money and cheques.
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Radia: Hi
SA: Hi. He is already in London.
Radia: Okay
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SA: <i>Toh, woh aayega chaar ko</i> (He'll arrive at 4)
Radia: Yeah, I will set him up with....
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SA: <i>...Main baitha hoon wahan baat karne.. jaise woh chaar ko aayega woh baat karke che ya saat baje toh chale jaayega</i> Mr. Roopdas.
(I'm here, to speak to him. Once he arrives at 4, he'll talk, till 6 or 7, when he leaves, Mr. Roopdas)
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Niira: Tell me one thing, did Upender call you yesterday on Air India?
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SA: Upender gave a missed call today.
Radia: No, he is running the whole programme - half an hour.
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SA: <i>Nahi main bhi uska call return na kar paya</i> because I was in a board meeting. (No, I wasn't able to return his call)
Radia: He's given a whole story on the demise of Air India.
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SA: <i>Main toh</i> board meeting <i>karte hi pehle aapko</i> call <I>kiya</i>...(I called you as soon as the board meeting got over).. Then you told me about this Rajiv thing then I tried Rajiv.. He's already in London.. <i>Meri usse baat hui.. uske</i> mobile <i>pe.. </i> (I spoke to him on mobile) .. then I thought I must report back to you first.
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Radia: So kind ! <i>Achha</i> listen, <i>maine usko</i> report <i>bhijwa diya tha, bahut puraana jo tha pehle. Aur maine usko bataa diya, </i>>(inaudible) <i>ka usko samjha diya, ki kya</i> attempt <i>hai.</i>.. (I sent a very old report to him... and explained about -inaudible-, and what the attempt is.)... I think it's best you speak to him.
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SA: Then I'll return his missed call now
Radia: Of course! Okay, bye then.

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Manoj: Hello
Radia: Manoj, we will have to get on a conference call in a few minutes. I am setting up the number
- yes --
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Radia: You, me, Vishal.. and Rohit's in the middle of a briefing right now. So I'll just.. between the three of us because I just had a long chat with MM.
- Yeah --
Radia: So we will have to get up on a call.
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Manoj: Okay
Radia: <i>Uske income tax pe koi coverage nahin aaya tha? Humne brief bhi nahin kiya tha?</i> (Wasn't there any coverage on their income tax? We didn't brief?)
Manoj: No
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Manoj: <i>Nahin, woh yeh ho gaya na.. approve ho gaya na..</i> (No, It got approved.)
Radia: Approve <i>nahin hua</i> Manoj (It didn't get approved Manoj).. he is pretty mad about that..
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Manoj: What?
Radia: I mean, his view is <i>ki tum logon ko samajhne layak hona chahiye, phir uske baad journalists ko tumko samjhane layak hona chahiye</i> (you guys should know, and then you should be able to explain to the journalists)... okay.. you know.. we are in a fight. <i>Hamare</i> survival <i>ka sawal hai. Aur tum log isko bahut</i> lightly <i>le rahe ho</i> (It's about our survival. And you'll are taking this very lightly).
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Radia: And his view was <i>jo bhi hai</i> Raja <i>ne samjhaya hoga...aisa toh nahin hai ki</i> Raja <i>ne nahin samjhaya hoga,</i> income tax <i>ke</i> implications <i>kya honge</i>... (It's not like Raja must not have explained it to you, the implications of income tax.) <i>Kal</i> Ramchandran <i>ka</i> phone <i>bhi gaya tum logo ke paas</i>. (Yesterday Ramchandran even called you).
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Niira: Ab tumhe - (Now you - )
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Radia: Hi, hi, I am sorry we have not been able to connect. How are you?
NKS: Hi. How are you?
Radia: I am very well.
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NKS: Hehehe. Lot of fun and games no?
Radia: Isn't it.. yes yes.. isn't it.. What does it look like? What do you think of the new cabinet?
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NKS: Okay, It's a bit of what in Hindi, I can't explain to you there's a particular proverb in Hindi, which says 'Shivji Ki Baraat'.
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NKS: Means (sic) the <i>baraat</i> (wedding procession) of Shivji consisted of many varieties and many species from scorpions, serpents to elephants to reindeer.. so this is a bit of a jumbo staff, which would have to be seen..
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NKS: ...by and large conventional wisdom has prevailed in giving the key department to the old and trusted.
Radia: Yes...
NKS: Some surprise elements..
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NKS: ...a spectacular jump for Anand Sharma.
Radia: Yeah, what do you make of that?
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NKS: I am still puzzled. I am still puzzled because I knew he was close to 10, Janpath but in the meantime he had done a lot to cultivate PM, personally.
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NKS: PMO, hanging around Nayar's room.. PM.. and in the INB.. when he was given.. you know he was in touch with the PMO with the projection, which he believes has paid off in terms of a strategy. So this is.. I mean you know I still.. I don't think I have been able to say the last word on this.
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NKS: The other thing is, the spectacular decline of Kamal Nath.
Radia: Yes
NKS: That I explained .. and by the way to make matters worse for him, even shipping has been taken away.
Radia: Yeah Vasan's got that, yeah.
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NKS: Vasan's got that which means he just literally left. He lives on the road.
Radia: Yeah he is literally on the road.
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NKS: So.. well, you can always hide it by saying that highways are after all one black point of the government and they want to make up with it. But, I think there is much more than meets the eye.
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NKS: And I think that you know a lot of the stuff which you and I know was going on, somehow got noticed and reported and some way it is supposed to also give a signal.
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NKS: That perhaps it has been overdone.. I mean, whatever. And the fact that also Balu was kept out of the Roads.
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Radia: But that is more of Karunanidhi's decision because of all the pressure from his family.
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NKS: Ya, but on the other hand even if he would have come, he would not have gone back to the same charge of Roads.
Radia: Of course not..
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NKS: So I think in Kamal Nath's case it's clear indication that look, enough is enough. I don't think right now he needs another ATM. He has one going for many years. And there's enough for him. So that's the other thing.
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NKS: Jyothir Aditya has made it good, getting MoS. He didn't make it to an independent charge, but he has got pretty important thing in corner for the industry... with a young man, Anand Sharma to work with.
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NKS: And so.. good for Jyotir. I think it's an opportunity to do a lot, because it's a big charge. You know I have been in that ministry it's a big charge.
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NKS: If WTO gathers momentum.. though not this year because WTO doesn't only depend on us.. it depends on..
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Radia: Hello
PAA: Hello, is it Neera?
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Radia: Yeah, hi, how are you?
PAA: I am fine. How are things?
Radia: I'm fine, I'm fine. I hear Stalin has become Deputy CM...
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PAA: I know. What's happening? Only thing which caught my attention was your person, he keeps saying unless you have total belief in me it won't happen..
PAA: And he keeps hinting it will be only from September. I don't know whether you saw that..
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Radia: Listen he kept on saying that and the thing is that Kani... he said that I can take the horse to the water.. I can't force it to drink it. Astrology should be what you can do and what you can't do right?
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Niira: It says there's a path for you. Now it is for you to take that path. But she didn't take that path and I kept on telling her you should have taken the MoS. But maybe she had her own view which was... I think Kani must learn to look after herself first. She looks after everybody else first.
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PAA: I think it's something we've all been telling her and she's upset after that. Because I told her the same thing.. I told even before we came to Delhi.. I told her, for the first time in your life please look after yourself. Everybody can look after themselves; this is politics you know.
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PAA: It's so cut-throat and nobody is your friend and nobody is your enemy.
Radia: Correct
PAA: What did she say?
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Radia: No, she told me...I think her view is.. I don't know whether she has made a mistake and she recognizes she made a mistake. But maybe we all need to talk to her, no?
PAA: Yes maybe once we all will come to Delhi and we'll all sit together and..
Radia: She is coming to Delhi next week.. she is in the Parliament..
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PAA: No before it was easy when I was just an MLA, now every time I come to Delhi I have to get his permission. And my portfolio as well now.. being IT which is a bit like in the dumps.. I need to work on it.. I am planning to have a roadshow..
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PAA: ...how is Sachin? He's ok?
Radia: He's good.
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PAA: I thought I will write to Sachin and to my minister and see whether he can get the e-governance up and going.
Radia: Yeah. Very good. You should do that.
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PAA: Yeah…because the only reason she has to see your friend (astrologer) is, I kept telling her you know.. that out of the blue he told me that something will happen and he didn't tell me what will happen.
Radia: He is my cousin brother by the way.
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PAA: He said don't go - leave or anything by any chance, because you will come back with a bang he told me. And something happened, that I prepared in my head …you know…..and just held on to it and things did big turn around.
Niira: Yeah yeah.
PAA: So I was just bothered what he can do for her, you know, apart from..
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Radia: Let her come to Delhi on Monday. Let me talk to her.
PAA: Hmm..
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Radia: She is coming on Monday. You also talk to her, let me also talk to her. Let's wait till Monday.
PAA: I think I talk to her enough (chuckle).
Radia: Let us just talk to her on Monday because she has indicated to me that she may have made a mistake. Let us just talk to her and see.. I still think there may be an opportunity, let's see.
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PAA: Well I still feel...I don't think...from whatever I know of the CM from my experience, he will not forego Kani he will get her back in her own time..
Radia: No but I also believe that she should remain friends with Azhagiri and you must encourage her to do that. Because I don't think Azhagiri is going to be able to stay in Delhi long.
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PAA: You think so?
Radia: I don't think he's got the make up to do that.
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PAA: No, no you are underestimating him.
Niira: Think about it.
PAA: They are all cut-throat politicians <i>yaa</i>r!
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Radia: No I understand that. But he would want to be in Tamil Nadu, why would he want to be here?
PAA: He is already missing Madurai and he said he wants to go back.
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Radia: I am telling you. Tell her to remain friends with him. Trust me.
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PAA: When I come there <i> na </i> one day, we will talk. I will be coming around the end of this week or early next week
Radia: Good I will be here.
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Radia: Hi!
Vir: Hi, <i>dekha</i>? (Saw it?) Wrote it, I've dressed it up as a piece about how public will not stand for resources being cornered, how we are creating a new list of oligarchs. The examples I have given is court case which shows that mummy will decide that its all her family .. why should our gas be decided by mummy.
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Vir: I have given the example of the deal they struck on Southern after the Samajwadi Party supported the government and they went back on the deal.. and they went back on their old position.
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Vir: I have given this example of how our spectrum is being allocated.
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Vir: And I have said that while people have a certain tolerance for corruption in this country.. they have no tolerance for people cornering our assets. And cornering our scarce resources, what is gonna happen is that this country is gonna become a country run by oligarchs like Russia who nobody can control.
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Vir: And then Manmohan Singh must act because he is basically giving away the future of our country.
Radia: Very nice!
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Radia: Lovely.. thank you Vir.
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Vir: Dressed up as a plea to Manmohan Singh so it won't look like an inter-Ambani battle thing except to people in the law.
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Radia: Very nice!
Vir: So you read it, tell me what you think.
Radia: Thanks. You are leaving tonight.
Vir: Ya, I'm leaving tonight, so I'll be in ... tomorrow.

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Man - <i>Haan</i> (Yes), Nira.
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Nira: Srini, I have had a word with all of them including Natasha. I told her, explained to Natasha. Natasha was originally any case I had already told her this way back in August that we would want to do this with her.
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Nira: That is OK. I need to give her a couple of the people from NEWCOM so she can guide them and lead them properly which is fine. I'll do all those.
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Nira: I mean NEWCOM will just check on this part out to BITCOM, that's not an issue. That we we'll handle, it's an internal thing between us.
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Nira: I do believe she has the skill sets. I think she has the maturity and the skill sets to do this and she is OK about it. Manoj is OK. Vishal is OK.
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Srini: Hmm! Hmm!
Nira: I just... I am sorry.
Srini: Can I .. Can I, sorry you complete your sentence.
Nira: No no no, you go ahead, go on.
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Srini: See I was also thinking, I like Tom Clancy, so conspiracy theory or something which keeps going on in the mind, I don't...
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Srini: There are some vested interest who are feeling threatened by these new arrangements even for that brand enemy.
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Srini: I don't want them actually, see otherwise I mean it's one page apparently or half a page of picture and frankly I have never read 'Society' in my life, even if I had possibly flipped through it, possibly once or twice.
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Nira: Hmm! It's a (inaudible) impact. You see the problem is.... What are you saying? People who are threatened even about brand enemy, of course they are threatened by brand enemy.
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Srini: So they must be bringing it to our notice, you saw this bad story that has come.
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Nira: Yaa! Correct. But you know Srini, she is going to have to grow up out of that. Sorry. She is going to have to learn to do that deal with them separately.
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Nira: I mean I dealt with an over sensitive Ratan Tata who used to get upset about every negative word that was said in an article even though he had given that quote himself.
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Nira: But it is a matter of time and she is going to have to... and I am sure that enough people in her own system who will tell her that this was there or even people like ... (Unclear)
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Srini: I am talking about people like that only.
Nira: Yaa! and I think that it has zero meaning which is why she needs engagement with us.
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Nira: You know... I have told Manoj... You know she needs... we needed this whole positioning, presentation. Shrini, every time I have met her I have told her that we need to present to you. We need to present you. This is not the way we can continue.
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Nira: You know we have to have a plan, we have a plan. You know that, right from the beginning I have been going on about this. It's not something that has been manufactured today.
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Srini: One thing in this episode where I possibly think we are... (unclear)... She made that point about that I had told you about 'Society' and you guys (unclear).
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Nira: No I think he is willing to accept responsibility for it, he says 'he's told me that he's send me the blog and I told him that I am sorry I don't agree with you because if I had got the blog, then my immediate reaction at that time would be why are we not suing 'Hello' magazine.
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Nira: Because he knows me. I mean he knows the way I work. I sit on their heads till it gets done. But on brand enemy he's been very shaky and I have seen that which is why I have kept on saying let's put Neeta on it.... I mean Natasha on it.
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Srini: Hmm!
Nira: Because he is... You know what ends up happening. Why he didn't do Society that day was because the insider trading issue came up. So that is high impact.
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Srini: Somebody else could have made I mean it's a... The other thing which Manoj does is he doesn't delegate.
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Nira: He doesn't delegate. I completely agree with you. Everyone is complaining about it.
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Nira: So we'll have to just take it on head on and take it out of his... For example, everything we do on the other stuff, we have taken it out from him. It's with Rohit now in Delhi.
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Nira: I don't allow him to get involved on some of those issues any longer. We handle it ourselves, within our scope and Rohit is in touch with Raja directly.
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Nira: We have had to do that because otherwise what used to happen was Raja would call him and make him to sit there for 5 hours into meetings and discussing the same financial issues and his rest of the stuff would get into problem.
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Nira: So he has to handle what ever concerns RIL as RIL is the company. MDA I am handling and the other one in terms of all the other stuff we do has gone into Rohit's hands.
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Nira: So we push it and then I hint to Natasha. I think Natasha is capable, you will like her. You will like her because you will see what I mean about her. She is there and she is available and she understands his space.
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Nira: I have sensitised her on the point of not using the word celebrity. She is OK about it she knows all that.
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Nira: And where ever she needs inputs... And one thing about her is that she delegates beautifully.
Srini: Hmm!
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Nira: And maybe Neeta will feel comfortable if she also has a lady managing her.
Srini: I agree.
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Nira: That bond will develop, you know. She has handled some of the most difficult ones. Trust me, she's handled Simone Tata.
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Nira: Who is not an easy one because Simone just never wanted anything and we were facing this whole succession issue and there was a fight.
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Nira: I remember at one time there was a major issue we had in TATA's but she handled Simone.
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Nira: Handled Simone in the sense that Simone never troubled us on those issues you know.
Srini: Hmm! Hmm!
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Nira: So she will... I will teach Natasha the other issues you know on how she needs to position her philanthropy point.
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Nira: You know, there is a nice fun side to her. There is a philanthropic side to her. There is a serious entrepreneur side to her as well you know. So she'll understand.
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Srini: Just seeing the Society page which Manoj has scanned and sent. See it is smart.
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Srini: You start up by saying that Shobhaa De finds internet and blogging very good and liberating because there is nobody to edit it except her, that kind of thing.
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Srini: Case in point, she finds it extremely liberating where she can say whatever she wants the way she wants to without worrying about the affiliations and loyalties of the various publishers.
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Srini: Case in point, is a recent interview with Neeta Ambani and... (inaudible)... lifestyle magazine. They have not reproduced that.
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Nira: They have not reproduced the article right?
Srini: They have not reproduced it because...
Nira: They can't because they are right that they will have a legal implication.
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Srini: They have just picked up pieces which she says is not published.
Nira: It is come on mail to all of us is it?
Srini: Yes, it is come to you only actually.
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Nira: One moment, I'll just retrieve it.
Srini: Anyway, she said in five to ten minutes we can have a conference.
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Nira: Please connect Manoj, Vishal and myself and what I will do then is get her to give time for Natasha today or tomorrow.
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Nira: Let Natasha come across, meet her with Manoj. Then we will go across first and meet Manoj this afternoon, understand it and then take it on from there.
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Nira: And Shri just one piece of advice from you, do you want me to mention that look this has had zero impact.
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Srini: I think you should.
Nira: Yes, because I'll tell her that...
Srini: The whole thing with Manoj saying it, I'll tell you also, Nira...
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Srini: You can come across as someone who is dispassionate and you are giving (inaudible) advice.
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Srini: Some how in this case when I said but who reads Society and OK fine boss, you didn't do you job so that is why you are saying that.
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Srini: I asked you to meet and you didn't meet and that is why you are saying that. You understand where I am coming from?
Nira: Hmm! Hmm!
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Srini: When you say it I think it will have an impact.
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Nira: Of course Shobhaa De is... and I go back to what I told her right from the beginning about Shobhaa De that this is not the interview you should have accepted.
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Nira: Shobhaa De is not a person you can accept as an interviewer. She is competing with you how can you accept her.
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Nira: You see if you go back, specially the point I am going to make to her is that you know there is an element of advice. That advice comes from a little thought process. It doesn't come just because we have a view about something you know.
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Srini: This whole accepting and non accepting thing has been done before even I got to know about it.
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Nira: Yes I know.
Srini: ... I don't have a good view about either her writing or personality. She is a complete sham and... (inaudible)..There is neither (inaudible) nor quality in her writing...
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Nira: And people have zero view of her. The amount of criticism the Times Of India have on her column are quite remarkable but they have to continue because a contractual agreement is there in place.
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Nira: And there is also this Vineeth factor there and it is a matter of time and that column will be taken off.
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Nira: Shrini, I am going to tell her that I recognise that may be there has been a failure on the team in this case, and I have told Manoj this already, I am substituting the team because...
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Srini: I was also feeling sorry. Manoj had said sorry yesterday and he had apologised to me, he is not ehh!...
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Nira: No no, he is very good that way, he has always worked to his... but the thing is that I cannot own up to a situation and not do something about it.
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Nira: It will be wrong on my part and I'll say that whilst Manoj has apologised yesterday our responsibility to you is to make sure that we correct it.
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Nira: Yaa! And we are correcting it by giving you someone who has the skill set to handle it and who will handle only you. She has other accounts also but she will handle only you... so that you are not... then when we have other issues on insider trading.
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Nira: Hello!
Jehangir: Maam, it was Anil, Anil's son.
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Nira: Anil's son?
Jehangir: Yes.
Nira: Very good. Is that happened?
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Jehangir: What very good <i>babu</i>?
Nira: What? ...<i>Nai na, bar bar</i> (No na, everytime)... they are only after us<i> na</i>, everytime they have been after us.
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Jehangir: I said don't say that if someone's got hurt and that his boy has been in an accident then that person is hurt.
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Jehangir: Anyway I am just telling you so don't stress about it and there is some DCP in Bombay, it's in Cuffe Parade.
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Jehangir: This case is in Cuffe Parade right now so a guy is gone to find out.
Nira: It is coming on channel?
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Man - No, I have not put it on the channel. I don't think that that is what I want to do but since we talked about it I am just telling you.
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Nira: So it is Anil's son?
Jehangir: Anil's car which had an accident and then he ran away and then this driver came out of the blue and surrendered.
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Nira: Ok.
Jehangir: So our criminal correspondent spoke to the DCP and they said off the record they said that boss it was very suspicious because the car hit this guy, ran away and suddenly this driver came...
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Jehangir: ...And usually when that happens, it is usually the <i>seth</i> (boss)... you know it is just like what, you know the story right.
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Nira: Yes!
Jehangir: So they are saying the same thing. So they had off the record called us, so they called me and said Mukesh Ambani.
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Jehangir: So I said listen, be very careful with the child's life and verifying and sources and then I called you and then in the mean time they also called me and said that it is a mistake, it is Anil.
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Jehangir: I said still still who ever his son, doesn't matter. That's not the point. The point is you can't say something like this about someone just randomly you know.
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Jehangir: So you collect your proof and you make sure your sources and very 100% watertight and make sure it was an accident of... If it was a genuine accident, then there is no story.
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Jehangir: People may have a genuine accident but if he was driving rashly or drunk or something then if you can confirm that then we will think about it as a story.
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Nira: Right, Ok. Ok. Fair enough. I'll just let them know. Ok,bye.
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Nira: Then you go into the fact that you know we are... It's even in retail, we are not doing anything you know.
Manoj: <i>Theek hai</i> ok.
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Nira: We have got privately business happening. We have got... You know, there is a plan ready, Nira, we are waiting for the plan to get accepted. You know?
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Manoj: Ok.
Nira: Ok. That's another side. The teams have met up with Pankaj and all that and we are waiting for those and we are waiting to know. We are waiting.
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Nira: These people are just hanging around waiting to know what to do. Right.
Manoj: <i>Theek hai</i> ok.
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Nira: Then, you go into the fact that there are... there is multiple, there is news based and there is commercial based. So you divide that up and put it that way.
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Nira: In the sense that I am sorry but I am bringing this to your notice because I am sure you have already sensed this.
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Nira: But I am being candid about this because you know we always learn to deliver.
Manoj: Yes. Ok.
Nira: We don't know anything else and this is like working with our hands tied behind our back.
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Nira: You're expecting us to take care of certain situations, you put that in inverted commas right.
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Manoj: Hmm!
Nira:Take care of certain situations... whatever, I don't want to go into this whole thing about journalist and gate keepers and all that.
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Nira: You can say that here we are expecting us to do this but with what? Right.
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: Then you put that and then you say, you do a separate mail from me to MM which is that we had already sensed this last week and we had brought it to your notice.
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Nira: You recall?
Manoj: Hmm!
Nira: Now of course I will send a far more candid mail from my team.
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Nira: There is a plan that is ready and waiting to share with you and we didn't get a chance last week to meet and fees on it, but there is a need for an engagement.
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Nira: And we already have a plan waiting to roll out. And I think we need to consider this... In Vishal's mail we also mentioned about PTI.
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Nira: We are still waiting for you to give me a decision on PTI. Do we blacklist them or don't we blacklist them?
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Manoj: Hmm! <i>Theek hai</i> (Ok).
Nira: Are you going to work with Tatas to get them blacklisted? So when two of the largest groups of companies stop using PTI, maybe we have... Do we have an alternative to PTI?
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Nira: You know...(Inaudible)
Manoj: Sorry, sorry?
Radia: <i>Usko bhi pata chal jaega ke mai UNI ke leye push kar rahi hu</i> (They will also come to know that I am pushing for UNI.)
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Manoj: Hmm!
Nira: Then you say what to do with PTI. You know please give me an OK. Do I blacklist them for Reliance?
Manoj: Hmm! <i>Theek hai</i> Ok.
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Nira: So that sort of message in this thing... And say that in the case of NMA, you write that in the mail. You know?
Manoj: Hmm!
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Nira: You go into it. There is a whole plan waiting for her execution. It cannot be based on Bombay Times. As I have mentioned. You go into it in a very this thing...
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Nira: And keep in mind we will share this plan. Anything that goes of my mail is always given to MDA. So keep that in mind. Don't hurt them but be candid and bring out the issues.
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Manoj:Hello!
Nira: Hello! Manoj.
Manoj: I didn't realise that the headline in Delhi is different than what has come in Bombay on that ET story.
Nira: Yes.
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Manoj: In Bombay it is Petro-Minister to meet on KG Gas. I didn't realise what has come in Delhi.
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Manoj: I just checked and realised that Reliance Gas doesn't find takers kind of a thing.
Nira:Yes.
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Manoj: We have spoken to the journalist and we have asked them to discuss it with her desk saying what nonsense is this.
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Manoj: Because it is not a question of we not finding takers, it is a question of the restrictive policy and that is what the Bombay guys have said that who is the Petro-Minister is meeting to discuss this issue?
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Nira: Yes.
Manoj: So she said that yes, I'll discuss it.
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Nira: That's the point I am trying to make Manoj that they are in control of the debt and therefore may I suggest that you send me a mail giving this highlight so I can send it to Rahul Joshi and tell him that you have a serious problem at your desk in Delhi and I have been trying to tell you this before.
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Manoj: Ok.
Nira: This is the story that appeared in Bombay, what is discussed and what is being carried and therefore I do believe that there is something wrong with the desk and I have been trying to tell you this before. You need to check it out.
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Manoj: Ok, I'll do this.
Nira: Explaining the whole issue so you send it to me so that I can send it to him and explain.
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Nira: What is the context of the story and the headlines comes out with a completely... The thing is that, that is the impression it creates no Manoj?
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Manoj: Ok. I know... That is why i called you back immediately after I realised because I didn't realise that this was the headline that had come in the paper. Ok. I'll just send you this.
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Nira: Yes, but this confirms my suspicion that there is no control of the desk in Delhi.
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Nira: And of course their attempt of the gas price, of not having any takers and therefore reducing the price is more valid no?
Manoj: Of course.
Nira: You can imply that in your mail <i>na</i>?
Manoj: Yes.
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Nira: You can say that there are those that have been fighting litigation battles for bringing the price of gas down and such headlines suit them best.
Manoj: Ok.
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Nira: And you can send a...
Manoj: ET<i> main ek </i> edit <i>aaya hai</i> (What about an edit that has come in ET) which I am planning to write to Venu directly saying that it is an incorrect edit after I run it past PMS in terms of mail to him saying that it is a wrong perspective gained...
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Nira: What is it?
Manoj: <i>Vo</i> taxation <i>pe jo hai...</i> (That thing about taxation...) saying that gas should not be given the tax exemption.
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Manoj: I'll just draft the mail and send it to PMS so that you can just approve it.
Nira: But I am surprised that you have not done that. I am very surprised. When did that appear?
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Manoj: Today, Today!
Nira: Ok. I have not seen it. I saw that only the Raja Spectrum and Kanimozhi one. I think you should shoot off a mail to Venu with a copy to me straight away.
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Manoj: I don't want to factually be wrong so I'll just run it past him and then send it to him.
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Nira: Ok. But Manoj, but send it pretty quickly and (inaudible) both the articles. OK! Bombay and Delhi.
Manoj: Sure, I'll get back to you immediately but I'll just...
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Nira: What are the headlines in across in other regions?
Manoj: I don't know, I'll check and I'll send you all.
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Nira: Hi Tarun.
Tarun: Hi. Sorry, I was in a meeting.
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Nira: No problem, I told you, I will call you when I was in Delhi. So I just wondered how you were... Yes I am back. I am going to Vaishno Devi tomorrow to Jammu.
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Tarun: Ok! I used to be on the board of trustees at one time.
Nira: Oh really!
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Tarun: Without having any religion in me. I don't know how I was nominated.
Nira: It is as we call it <i>Mata</i>'s (Goddess Mother's) Will.
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Tarun: Have you been there before?
Nira: Many times before. I am going now after about three to four years.
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Tarun: Is it a good place?
Nira: Yes, yes! Lovely, lovely! Yaa, yaa, absolutely.
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Tarun: And then you feel good going there?
Nira: Oh yes! It is really a great feeling.
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Tarun: I presume you don't go in Western clothes.
Nira: No, no! <i>Sari or <i>salwar kameez</i>.
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Tarun: I don't think I have ever seen you in it... I have seen you at a wedding in a sari.
Nira: That's right.
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Tarun: But it can't be that kind of sari.
Nira: No, no! Of course not.
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Tarun: How was your Bombay visit?
Nira: Good! Good! Good visit. I met Ratan also.
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Tarun: Ok.
Nira: Told him what are you doing, I mean, he was very worried about Maran of course.
Tarun: Right.
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Nira: I did tell him by the way. I am sorry I don't know whether I should have done that you were meeting with the Prime Minister on Monday. The Singapore Prime Minister.
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Tarun: Yes! Yes!
Nira: Regarding he is having a problem with his funding with JLR.
Tarun: Ok.
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Nira: He is just caught up in that. He just can't raise the money for it.
Tarun: Yes!
Nira: For the equity part.
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Tarun: Yes it is a lot of money.
Nira: Yes that is right. Where are you - town or in Gurgaon?
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Tarun: I am in town and in just between meetings. I was with Montek for about an hour.
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Tarun: Basically discussing some strategy issues and then now I am going to meet the CII president Joel Ball and then I have to head back to Gudgoan. I have somebody coming there at 7 o'clock. I am actually running very late now.
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Nira: Ok.
Tarun: So when are you back?
Nira: On Sunday only.
Tarun: Ok.
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Nira: But you are leaving Sunday night no?
Tarun: Sunday night I am leaving I'll be back on Tuesday morning.
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Nira: So i am there Tuesday. In any case and your decision you are still standing by it?
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Tarun: Yes, yes! Absolutely. I just told Montek. He wanted me to tell the PM also, I'll do that. We were discussing... One part of the meeting was whether there are any implications of this government relationship with me and he said no.
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Tarun: We actually work with you and look at you in your personal capacity.
Nira: That's right I would have thought so.
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Tarun: Otherwise sort of seen you like that because that is the way we have treated it not as CII. You know that you have that link. I said that link will still be there but I won't have that designation.
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Tarun: So he said what designation will you have. So I am president of ASPEN Institute, India and I am still chairman of Haldia Petro Chemicals and in fact the Prime Minister has nominated me on the Japan-India CEO's forum as chairman of Haldia Petro Chemicals.
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Tarun: So I said yeah, no we are very comfortable with it.
Nira: So at the end of the day it is your personal capacity no?
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Tarun: And actually he was wanting me to do more stuff. Get more active in, you know, from behind on the industry side and the economic side. So I want to do that sort of stuff you know.
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Nira: That is a good thing and I am really glad.
Tarun: Because there is some trust here and I enjoy policy work. I like that and...
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Nira: Yaa, yaa, so do I loved... Well if you need any help you always got the neighbour's secretary.
Tarun: I know that, I always recommend you. You know that.
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Nira: No, no! And of course when it is working with you personally then it is probono <i>na</i>? That is always there, anything. But I am preparing for the announcement. The Monday announcement is... Maybe we will do the announcement for Tuesday no?
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Tarun: Yes, maybe. Let him get it for his board meeting tomorrow there because he has to go into the board now. I believe the president of AII is reacting a lot to my exit but that's what I am going to go and tell him.
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Tarun: I have written a letter and all that and it is all gone in writing but now I have to listen to his please stay, please stay kind of crap.
Nira: Yes I know he is going to do that.
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Tarun: But they don't understand me, no. They don't understand what I am like. I am not like a normal business man, private sector thing you know.I am happy to be nobody actually. And I am happy to be on my own and do my thing...
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Nira: But you have been that. You have your own position. But you know they are having PC on Monday on the budget and I don't want them to mix this up with it.
Tarun: Yes, yes! Sure! Sure!
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Nira: This has to be treated very separately and so...
Tarun: There is a meeting on the budget. Finance minister is meeting all the industrialists. Is Ratan coming?
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Nira: I don't think so. He is going off to the U.S. tonight.
Tarun: Ok. So he won't be... I don't suppose Mukesh might come.
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Nira: He is completely detached. I think Mukesh might come. But he has completely detached himself from all this.
Tarun: Right. That is a pity actually. That is a pity.
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Nira: Yaa! He was a bit too nervous about what is going to happen to Telecom but now that Maran is not there he is happy.
Tarun: But Raja is there. Raja has a good equation with him.
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Nira: No, no! Raja is good. He is happy with Raja. He was very worried till the announcement happened yesterday and a bit shocking for Kamal Nath.
Tarun: But that is a good job. He needs to build some roads.
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Nira: No also I think he needed to be told that he had gone a bit overboard.
Tarun: Yes. This is a very strong message to him.
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Nira: But what do you make of Anand Sharma?
Tarun: I know him reasonalbly well. Not too well. But we will have to brief him, educate him. He is new to this whole industry area. But he is a trusted person.
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Tarun: And he has worked hard in this system. So it is a bit of a surprise. But it is good. They have been thinking out of the box for a few names.
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Tarun: Like Kamal Nath was also a surprise. Road Transport. But between you and me, I had suggested him for it.
Nira: I would have thought so.
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Tarun: I had suggested it big time. Because highway construction, road construction is really a priority. He is a doer. You can make your 15% on this. So you can do national service and also make money. You know what I mean?
Nira:Hmm!
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Tarun: And do some thing really worthwhile here because Balu has screwed us for five years.
Nira: Yes! This is still an ATM for Kamal Nath no?
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Tarun: Yes! Absolutely. Anyways you have a good trip and we will talk when you get back.
Nira: I will and I will pray for you and I will see you on Tuesday then. You know one more thing I wanted to ask you. India Brand Equity foundation.
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Tarun- Yes.
Nira: Pillai... My team presented on Wednesday. Pillai has already made up his mind about Dilip Cherian.
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Tarun: <i>Acha!</i>
Nira: I was surprised. I was quite surprised. My team tells me they were least interested in the presentation although Suhail had indicated that we were still far more in the reckoning and he said I had seen all the other presentations and they were pretty bad.
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Nira: But my focus is more on the IBS because I do believe that I can't be lying by saying that I will keep on building India. India will get built as a result of IBS also upping its ante.
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Nira: I think this whole thing about saying it will only be India first doesn't always work.
Tarun: Yes!
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Nira: India is there. You can never ignore it.
Tarun: I didn't go for that meeting.
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Nira: No, I just wanted to let you know that that happened, so they gave it to Cherian and when my team went to present there were hardly even interested in listening to the presentation.
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Tarun: Ok. I'll find out. Let me find out.
Nira: No I just wonder whether Pillai had a good equation with Cherian which made it happen.
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Tarun: Must be, must be.
Nira: Not to worry.
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RKC: Hello?
NR: Hi.
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RKC: <i>Haanji, kya haal hai...</i> (How are you?)
NR: I just came out of the meeting, I met our minister, Fareed <i>baitha hua tha bahar</i> (was sitting outside) without an appointment, as usual.
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RKC: <i>Toh daant diya hoga sahab ne sab ko...</i> (So the boss would have scolded everyone...)
NR: <i>Kisko?</i> (Whom?)
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RKC: Staff <i>walon ko daanta?</i> (Did he scold the staff?)
NR: <i>Haan</i> (Yes), because I think he is a bit frustrated about, he said that he is limiting the number of people that meet him and he's also changed all his staff, because, I am glad you've done that.
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RKC: <i>Nahin, nahin</i> (No, no), we have changed the entire staff in office also except 2-3 persons. And <i>sahab ne bola ki</i> (And the boss said) you also meet people only during one specified time. Not the entire day, <i>ki koi aa raha hai, koi jaa raha hai...</i> (that someone is arriving, someone is leaving.)
NR: Absolutely right.
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RKC: We will start work it out...<i>ki bhai</i>, (that brother) that nobody without appointment...and...
NR: He was telling me about secretary and BSNL, and he told me about his own media, so I am going to give you a plan on how we should do it. I'll dedicate one person who will handle that media for him, okay?
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RKC: Okay.
NR: We'll have to find a way whether we give him to you internally, I'll give you one of my trusted guys who is very well in with the media.
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RKC: Okay, fine.
NR: Okay you want an independent...my honest advice is <i>tum jaise yeh </i> perfect perfect <i>sab ko chhor do kyunki yeh sab</i> alignments <i>hai in logon ki.</i> (Leave this 'perfect perfect' stuff, because all these are these people's alignments.)
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RKC: <i>Nahin, woh to hai, kisi ne bataya hai...</i> (No, that's there, someone has told me...)
NR: I can't...I don't think anyone... Shahid will tell you I have one of the finest teams you know...<i>ek</i> (one) second...We are not meeting <i>na</i> today?
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RKC: Today, if you think you can come by 3:30, we can meet.
NR: No, then, I will go to Gurgaon <i>na</i>, I want to talk to you about that also. Hang on. (To someone else) I'm not going there...I'm not going there. Sorry <i>mein</i> Suvarna <i>se keh rahi thi,</i> (inaudible) <i>Nahin, nahin woh maine wahaan jana hai, usne</i>...I'm trying to narrow him down on to something.
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RKC: Okay,<i> theek hai</i>.
NR: That's why. So I don't want to leave that pending...Finally all the sons and the father have come on the table.
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RKC: Okay, <i>toh ya to phir kal milte hain teen baje kareeb?</i> (Okay, or instead let's meet tomorrow around three?)
NR: I am moving tomorrow to the apartment by the way.
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RKC: <i>Chalo</i> (Okay) good, <i>toh</i> (so) you come at 11, can you come at...
NR: <i>Ek hi din rah gaya hai</i> September <i>tak</i>... (There's only one day to September)
(Laughter)
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RKC: Can you come at 11:15?
NR: <i>Main abhi aa sakti hoon.</i> (I can come now.)
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Yatish: Good morning ma'am!
Nira: Yatish!
Yatish: Yes ma'am.
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Nira: Yatish! <i>Ek kam karo.</i> (Do one thing). Speak to Chandar firstly. Monday morning we have a conference call with Hari and Raja to freeze on that budget.
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Nira: And I told them yesterday because salaries for NewsX had to be released last night without the budget being approved.
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Nira: So I have told them that we need to freeze on all this and I also indicated to him that we must have this meeting as a conference call on Monday itself because... <i>Kal yaha pe</i> vendors turn up <i>ho gaye the. Police le kar aa gaye the. Bahut sara tamasha hua hai NewsX mein.</i> (...yesterday all the vendors turned up here with the police. There was a lot of commotion at NEWSX.)
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Yatish: Ok!
Nira: So basically what you have to do is send a mail to all saying that we are going to have a conference call and we are waiting for Hari to confirm a time when Raja will be free to discuss the budget.
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Nira: Please can everybody tell us what time is convinient to them in the afternoon, right.
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Yatish: Hmm!
Nira: <i>Chandar se bath kar ke...</i> (Talk to Chandar and...) ...the list of creditors... Also write that the creditors need to be cleared and all the one time items should be discussed so that we can't have people turning up at the office. Vendors are turning up with cops at the office now, you know?
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Yatish: Ok!
Nira: But the thing is that we want to say there are one time items that we had talked about... What are the one time items we had discussed? First and most critical is also to discuss on Monday is the clearing of all creditors, past creditors.
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Yatish: Ok!
Nira: Right ? And therefore what is the time line and how do they want to play with that? And that is to be separated from the operational budget that will be discussed on Monday. Right?
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Yatish: Ok!
Nira: Now the one time items that need discussion on Monday would be the clearing of creditors, previous creditors before we took over the company.
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Nira: What are the other issues one time you want to discuss? Distribution we have dissolved already, we are going to this thing as a budget. There is no need to discuss that as a one time item.
Yatish: Ok!
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Man - (Inaudible)... Let us keep some standard definitions...........(inaudible)
Nira: What's the company called?
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Man - Wide Angle.
Nira: Wide Angle Ok! Guys from Wideangle has been hired to look into the transition from HD to SB.
Yatish: Ok!
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Nira: And right sizing of operations. He is a consultant that we had talked in the last meeting. We had decided not to go forward with SL but looked at this one.
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Nira: His job will be three things. Yatish!
Yatish: Yaa!
Nira: Transition, planning... Transition on HD to SB. Second?
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Man - Review and right sizing of operations.
Nira: Review and right sizing of operations in terms of technologies and people. <i>Vo jo hamara objectives jo tha SL Sham ka vo unhone kiya nahi tha.</i> (The objectives which we had of SL Sham that they did not do.) And the third thing?
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Man - Work flow process planning.
Nira: Work flow process planning.
Yatish: Ok
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Nira: Ok! These are the three things that we will do and therefore Daji will just brief us.
Yatish: Ok!
Nira: Five lacs is the fee. One time not monthly. It is a one time five lac fee. He will do it in two weeks.
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Yatish: Ok!
Nira: Ok! So we have taken him on to clear that. This would be part of the discussions that we will have.
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Yatish: Wide Consultants?
Nira: Wide Angle.
Yatish: Wide Angle.
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Nira: <i>Haan</i> Yes! Also then <i>Chandar se bhi baat kar. Chandar ko bol list of creditors tum ko abhi bhijvade...</i> (Talk to Chandar also. Tell him to send the list of creditors to you.)
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Yatish: <i>Ap ke mail pe aaye te vaise priority karke kal parso...</i> (It had come on your mail saying priority yesterday or day-before...)
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Nira: <i>Ek second hold kar</i> (One second hold the line)
Nira: Yatish you are on speaker phone, huh!
Yatish: <i>Nahi nahi...</i> (No, No...) I am on normal.
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Nira: No, no, I am, I am. I have put you on...
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Man - Yatish, the thing to say is that this guy from Wide Angle, Rahul Kulsheshtra will come in and he will submit his report on the three parameters which I told you but after that is over we will come face to face with the issue of how do we handle Zoom and India Sign.
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Man - They have to take back equipment. How do we renegotiate with them or whether we just stop paying them.
Yatish: Hmm!
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Man - That issue you know that Vinay was going to talk to Zoom and figure out <i>na</i> ?
Yatish: <i>Haan</i> Yes!
Man - That issue will now come to our head.
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Yatish: Right.
Man - And the Bombay equipment is already been parceled because that we couldn't give back, they didn't think of that.
Yatish: Hmm!
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Man - So the Bombay equipment has been parceled and put into storage.
Yatish: Ok!
Man - So that equipment is actually already brought things to our head.
Yatish: Hmm!
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Man - Then... After this based on what the report says we will have to actually implement it obviously.
Yatish: Right!
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Man - Negotiate with Zoom great but if we don't we will have to go with SL Sham.
Yatish: Hmm!
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Nira: I don't want the focus to shift in the meeting on that. Yatish you say that it is done and Jehangir will take what ever necessary operational discussions... (Unclear).
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Man - Limited point here is that the discussion with Zoom and India Sign have to get done.
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Nira: ... Have to tell us what is the status as far as that is concerned. But the critical factor is dealing with the past creditors and making sure we separate the two budgets from operation to that.
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Nira: I don't want to sit in the cabin and discuss for two hours and we discuss one thing again and the budget is left.
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Yatish: <i>Theek Hai</i> Ok!
Nira: I want this meeting to... And you can say that the meeting should not last for more than half an hour.
Yatish: Ok!
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Nira: Actually it will only take us half an hour to work it out. We are already talking so... Raja will brief on the call. Please let us know what time that call will be, huh?
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Nira: Let's not get into anything beyond the budget on that day because otherwise funds and not going to come in.
Yatish: <i>Haan, Theek hai</i> (Yes, Ok)
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Nira: You saw how their process works Yatish.
Yatish: <i>Budget me revenue be discuss hogi ke nahi?</i> (Will the revenue also be discussed in the budget or not?)
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Man -Hmm?
Yatish: Revenue?
Nira: <i>Haan, vo distribution ke sath linked hai</i> (Yes that is linked with the distribution.)
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Yatish: <i>Theek hai. Nahi par us din table per vo kar rehay hai na? Ho sakta hai...</i> (Ok. No but on that day they are doing that on the table na? so may be...) ... but these people will try and stretch... <i>ke revenue pe kya ho reha hai?</i> (... what is happening on the revenue?)
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Nira: <i>Mai ne tho already kal Raja aur Hari ko bol deya hai</i> (I have already told Raja and Hari yesterday.) <i>Mai ne us din jab Bombay me meliti mai ne use samjadeya hai...</i> (That day when I met them only I explained to them...).
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Yatish: Hmm!
Nira: <i>Ke agar mera reach he nahi hai tho mai advertising kahase lekar aa ungi...</i> (That if my reach only is not there then how will I get advertising.)
Yatish: <i>Theek hai</i> (Ok)
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Nira: I mean somebody is not going to give you advertising because they like your face <i>na</i>?
Yatish: We have to be on the same page <i>na</i> but... <i>ap ne betha deya hai tho theek hai.</i> (... If you have told them then it is ok.)
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Nira: <i>Vo already betha deya hai...</i> (I have already told them...) ... and you can reiterate that in your... ehh... this thing.
Yatish: Hmm!
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Nira: I have no issue with that.
Yatish: <i>Theek hai</i> (Ok.)
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Nira: Because the commitment was based on the fact... Vinay had given us the fact that there was penetration. Don't write all this in the mail but Vinay in the meeting, you were not there in that meeting, had promised that distribution actually will be through on last month of the year.
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Nira: We are only found that to our horror that the fuck up with Sam that the guy... Our penetration has reduced...
Yatish: Reduced...
Nira: Yaa!
Yatish: <i>Haan</i> (Yes)
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Nira: <i>Haan...</i> (Yes...) so just... I am not concerned about that. That is Ok. I will handle that.
Yatish: <i>Theek hai</i> (Ok.)
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Nira: <i>Bejvado... creditors ka Chandar se bath karke...</i> (Send... Talk to Chandar and...) .... the creditors list must circulate before the conference call.
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Yatish: <i>Vo mai abi karva detha hu.</i> (I shall do that now.)
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Nira: So let's do it on a conference. You have video conference in your this thing...No, we don't want to do video from NewsX otherwise it will all come on the screen. So we will do a conference call.
Yatish: Tele. Ok.
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Nira: Ok Yatish, I am heading for Vaishno Devi <i>haan</i> (Ok). So I'll...
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Yatish: <i>Haan</i> (Ok) and safe journey. <i>Mere taraf se prashad cheda degye ga.</i> (Place an offering on my name.)
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Nira: <i> Vo definately karungi. Theek hai vo de deye na papers?</i> (I will definitely do that. Ok, those papers are given no?)
Yatish: <i>Haan, mei ne de deya hai.</i> (Yes I have given it.)
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Nira: <i> Muje sif ek missed call de de...</i> (Just give me a missed call...)... <i>Usko bol dena...</i> (Tell him that...) I couldn't call him back. <i>Mai abi kosish karti hu abi usko call karne ke leye nahi to use bol dena ke vo dek le mujhe phir.</i> (I will try to call him now if possible otherwise tell him to see me afterwards.)
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Nira: <i>... Monday Tatas ko mai ne nahi bulaya hai.</i> (... I have not called the Tatas on Monday.)
Yatish: <i>Acha</i> (Ok.)
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Nira: <i>Vo bol dena usko, janbuch ke nahi bulaya hai...</i> (Tell him that, purposely I haven't called them...) .... because he and I have not had the discussion yet.
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Yatish: <i>Theek hai</i> (Ok.) Ill tell him that.
Nira: <i>To Monday ke leye...</i> (So on Monday...) he was going to expect them at 12 o'clock. <i>Vo nahi hai</i> (That is not there.)
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Yatish: Some Shastri or someone.
Nira: <i>Haan, haan vo nahi aa reha hai. Theek hai.</i> (Yes, yes, he is not coming. Ok.)
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Yatish: <i>Theek Hai</i> (Ok.)
Nira: <i>Tho hum log pehile discuss kar lege Monday fir uske badh kar lege.</i> (So we will first discuss on Monday and then do it).
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Yatish: <i>Theek hai maam.</i> (Ok maam.)
Nira: <i>Aur vo jo mail tum ne J ko beja tha...</i> (And that mail that you had send to J ...) Both on Papa NIFTY and Cedelion.
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Yatish: <i>Haan</i> (Yes.)
Nira: That J is going to send you on my mail today the specifications of the Brazil mines as well as the company and the details and spec. from the port in terms of what capacity it has got.
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Yatish: Right.
Nira: It is quite an amazing thing. The second thing is that we are not really interested in the coal and eucalyptus plant. I mean the coal plant. That that....
Yatish: Eucalyptus based...
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Nira: We have a thing... We will specify that but he will put the whole thing together so if you need to forward it to NK Mishra...
Yatish: NK Mishra or Muthu Ramman?
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Nira: <i>Muthu Ramman ko bej dena aur NK Mishra ko copy kar dena.</i> (Send it to Muthu Ramman and copy it to NK Mishra.)
Yatish: Ok.
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Nira: So if you have to forward that then you remove the name of the company.
Yatish: Ok.
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Nira: But it doesn't matter. I mean the only thing is that they will end up approaching directly. <i>Muje Tatas ka barosa nahi hota kabi.</i> (I never have faith in Tatas.) They are worse than... We think all the others are worse, they are even worse.
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Yatish: <i>Theek hai.</i> (Ok.)
Nira: So I would just give him the specs.
Yatish: I'll do that Ok.
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Nira: And he is also going to send you the specs for...
Yatish: Serria Leona and Senegal.
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Nira: <i>Toh Sanjay Nevatia ko jo be aaya hai Tata's se vo bhi forward kar dena uske mail pe.</i> (So what ever Sanjay Nevatia has been sent from the Tata's, forward that also on his mail.)
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Yatish: <i>Theek hai</i> (Ok.) I'll do that.
Nira: Yaa! So that should hopefully do it and lastly...<i>kya kehena ta tuje?</i> (what I wanted to tell you?)
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Nira: <i>Acha mere meeting ho gaye hai us se kal theek gaye hai, achi gaye hai. Mere firse meeting hai Monday.</i> (Ok, my meeting has been done with him, it went well. There is another meeting on Monday.)
Yatish: Ok!
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Nira: So I have to find a way of handling that. <i>Muje ek hi usme solution chai ee tho Mr. Baijan se bath kar lena.</i> (I need only one solution in that so talk to Mr Baijan.)
Yatish: <i>Haan</i> (Ok.)
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Nira: See if we were to bring everyone together.
Yatish: Ok.
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Nira: So COI and the CDMA operators together, which is the common ground. My sense... may be you can ask Mittal this, huh.
Yatish: Huh.
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Nira: <i>Mittal ko bolo tumare leye sabse... Bijal ko na pucho. Bijal confuse kar dega.</i> (Tell Mittal which is the most... Dont ask Bijal. He will confuse you.)
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Nira: <i>Mittal ko pucho ke sabse right policy mere hisab se toh 6.2 pe terminate hoti hai.</i> (Ask Mittal that the best policy as per me gets terminated at 6.2.)
Yatish: Hum!
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Nira: <i>Uske badh AGR increase hota hai jaha pe thum section vapas le nahi pao ge.</i> (After that AGR increases where you cannot take back the section.)
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Nira: <i>Aur Jo CDMA ka jo 5 Mhz hai. Usko jo tumara level playing field hai, usko sabko level playing field pe le aana.</i> (And the 5 Mhz of CDMA which is there, bring everything to that level playing field.) <i>Mittal ko kehena ke sir aap ko ek bar yad hoga ke jab licenses issue ho rehe te GSM ke tab hum ne ek proposal benaya tha.</i> (Tell Mittal that sir you might remember that when the licences were being issued for GSM, that time we had made a proposal.)
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Nira: <i>Hum 7.5 per le geye te ... (unclear).... 5 Mhz on CDMA.</i> (We had take to 7.5Mhz ....(unclear)... 5 Mhz on CDMA.)
Yatish: Ok!
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Nira: <i>Kuki abi tho sab trans work...</i> (Because now all the trans work...) ...Voice <i>ko</i> they will move on to 2G...
Yatish: Later.
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Nira: And they will put... ehh.. this thing... ehh... atleast the CDMA operators and they will use e-video.
Yatish: Correct.
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Nira: So they will benefit by having 5:7:5 on the assumption because they will not have to then bid for 3G.
Yatish: Correct.
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Nira: So they should have no problem then with GSM getting 7.5.
Yatish: Hmm! Ok.
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Nira: You understand ? That can be a possible formula... <i>... To ek bar Mittal se bath kar lena.</i> (... so talk to Mittal once.)
Yatish: Ok.
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Nira: Ok then we will discuss it on Monday.
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Venkat: Hi, morning!
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Raida: Morning Venkat, Hi!
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Venkat: Sorry to bother you so early.
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Radia: No no problem.
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Venkat: Aaa.... last night boss called, I checked with him...
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Radia: Hm mmm..
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Venkat: ...he said that aaa.. my.. it's good to meet...aaa.. but his only suggestion was aaa instead of you going to his office or elsewhere...
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Radia: Hm mm...
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Venkat: ...so, may be he..if he could come come over to a place of your...
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Radia: No, we were we were gonna meet at a common place which was... we said we will either meet at Chambers...
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Venkat: Ah ha...
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Radia: ...or I told him he can meet at my residence ...
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Venkat: Ok fine...
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Radia: ...because I've moved in the weekdays to the apartment, so I said he can to... or he can... he knows my place, my farm, so he said he didn't mind coming at the... I spoke to him late last night...
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Venkat: Ah ha...
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Radia: So I invited him actually to the... I said why don't you come to the farm since I'm not well and all that...you know...
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Venkat: Hm mm..
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Radia: So he's gonna to get back to me today whether we going to meet tomorrow.
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Venkat: Ok fine. Boss is little worried that if you go to his office, he might, you never know, some fellow might take undue media advantage.
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Radia: Ya ya ya ya..ya. But I, if he called,I would know the media, they would know that, you know, that I can handle. But I won't go to his office and I'll meet him at a neutral place or my farm.
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Venkat: Ok. This was the only suggestion, otherwise he was fine, there was no harm in he said,going and listening of the (inaudible)
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Niira: Okay great, did you talk to him about Noel?
(Tape ends)
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Venkat: Ya, i told a word...
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Niira Radia: Cecilia?
Cecilia: Yes, ma'am.
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NR: You know many, many moons ago, we had that whole document on Praful Patel, Air India and what's been happening, Satish <i>ne banaya tha?</i> (Satish had made it?)
C: <i>Woh</i> Satish <i>ke paas waapas bhijwaya tha maine.</i> (I had those sent back to Satish.)
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(inaudible)
NR: <i>Usse poochh uske paas hai?</i> (Ask him if he has it?)
C: Abhi kab chahiye aapko? (Now when do you need it?)
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NR: <i>Nahin, mujhe kal chaar baje se pehle bhejna hai kisi ko.</i> (No, I have to send it to someone before four o' clock tomorrow.)
C: <i>Achchha, theek hai, usi ke paas hoga,</i> (Okay, alright, he will have it), I'd given him...
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NR: <i>Agar uske paas hai toh usko bol ki</i> (If he has it, then tell him that) I'll be very grateful...<i>Hum aaj...kal</i> pick <i>kar le kyunki woh poora uspe</i> Star News <i>pe aane wala hai</i> half an hour. <i>Toh woh </i> dossier use <i>karna chahta hai.</i> (We should pick it up today...tomorrow, because it's going to be on Star News, for half an hour. So he wants to use the dossier)
C: <i> Accha, theek hai</i> (Okay, alright.)
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NR: <i>Kal hi aa raha hai...toh</i> (He's coming tomorrow only, so) I'll send someone -
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Pal pal pal pal...(Phone rings)
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Niira Radia: Hello.
Manoj Modi: Hi, Niira.
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NR: Hi.
MM: How are you?
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NR: I'm fine, Manoj, how are you?
MM: I'm fine. This, Raja is with me...
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NR: Uh huh.
MM: We were just discussing about this...our litigation, demerger and some other PIL he has in mind.
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NR: <i>Haan.</i>
MM: Now this NGO, you are sure no, because see, we have this one NGO, that Ramjibhai Mavani, who had done earlier for our power business...
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NR: <i>Haan.</i> (Yes.)
MM: And second, the one that you have identified from Delhi.
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NR: Hmm.
MM: So I am fine with either, whatever is your comfort and preference.
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NR: Well my feedback on these people is quite good, I mean, I've understood them and they're quite okay, I don't get a sense that there is anything uh...I don't think there's anything to worry about.
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MM: <i>Haan,</i> so, because see, like this Rajkot guys <i>toh</i> we know that nothing will go wrong, and here also even if it doesn't go wrong, it is better to have a new person involved. But if you have even iota of doubt then we should look here, because this is going to be a very high-profile and high-tensile case.
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NR: Well, they are already registered <i>na,</i> Manoj, with the uh...they are a registered NGO.
MM: No, that is fine, registered NGO is fine, but they should not back out <i>na,</i> (no,) at a later -
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NR: No, Manoj, I...to be honest with you, I don't know them personally, I know the guy, though. I've had him spoken to from somebody very, very...who he listens to and I don't think he'll ever go back on his word.
MM: You don't know them personally?
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NR: No, I know who...the guy who owns the...one of them, I know one of them, there are five of them there. The other gentleman is a JNU guy, I don't think he'll backtrack. I think he's extremely credible from what I've got his reference check on him, they're serious guys. <i>Inhone</i> DLF <i>kiya tha,</i> DLF <i>ne pura inke upar zor laga liya tha, lekin unhone</i> revert...they did not go back. (They did DLF, DLF put pressure on them but they did not go back.) Even when they offered them money.
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MM: Why don't you do your due diligence and finally, I'll go...
NR: I've done, I've done that. That's why I only approached it when I did the due diligence. So when I saw <i>ki isne</i> DLF <i>ke saath</i> backtrack <i>nahin kiya hai</i> (So when I saw that they did not backtrack with DLF), and I know the sort of the pressure DLF had put on them...
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MM: Anyway, DLF <i>ka</i> pressure <i>ek rahta hai,</i> (Anyway, DLF's pressure is one thing,) you know I don't have to tell you anything about our guys <i>na,</i> our guys (put) more pressure.
NR: <i>Haan, haan,</i> (Yes, yes,) Manoj, my sense is very...how much time do we have?
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MM: (discusses with Raja) Raja?
Raja: (muffled) - next 2-3 days...
MM: Next 2-3 days, you have to decide, so I will go by your judgment finally. See I, I mean, we want to do 2-3-4 things, we have to...
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NR: Manoj <i>main usko</i> personally <i>nahin jaanti</i> but <i>mujhe</i> doubt <i>nahin hai uske upar.</i> (Manoj, I don't know him personally but I have no doubts about him.) I can tell you that because I think the guy's credible, comes from very credible background. And I don't think he's the sort of guy to manoeuvre.
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Raja/MM: Niira, if there is more than one, there should not be a pressure on others and all that, that is...
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NR: <i>Nahin nahin nahin nahin nahin</i> (No, no no no no no)...basically the key guys are three of them, of which I know one very well personally. That I can tell you <i>uska, woh kabhi nahin</i> backtrack <i>karega, doosra </i>JNU <i>ka hai,</i> very credible man, <i>sardar hai, woh hilega nahin aise. I don't think so <i>woh hilega.</i> Mujhe bilkul nahin uske upar</i> doubt. (That I can tell you about him, he will never backtrack, the other guy is from JNU, very credible man, he's a sardar, he won't waver. I have no doubts about him.)
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NR: <i>Aur</i>(And) the third guy is absolutely cool. And he knows my, one of my employees, Daljeet, very well. That's how this whole thing got put together. So when he came to me with the names, I did a check on them.
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NR: Then I made Sunil Arora talk to them, <i>kyunki woh</i> Sunil <i>ko bahut achchhi tarah se jaante hain</i> (because he knows Sunil very well). And I know when Sunil steps in...whenever he's given me a reference, he's never been wrong, Manoj. At least till today, I've never seen, <i>mujhe koi</i> doubt <i>nahin hai inpe.</i> (I have no doubts about them.)
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MM: Because see, just so that you know, when we were doing this Power, they had gone to Ramjibhai Mavani also. They had reached his home and taken all kinds of bags.
NR: <i>Haan, haan,</i> (Yes, yes) I understand that, I understand <i>woh karenge, maine yeh sab soch ke hi kiya tha</i> Manoj. (I understand that they'll do that, I thought about this and then took a course of action, Manoj.)
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MM: <i>Haan toh woh,</i> (Yes, so that), see because <i>kya hai,</i> in this case it is so important for us, you understand. So my preference is to do with them primarily because I don't want the same guy to do it directly, then another...we want to have another general feel/PIL (?) also that we will have uh them uh do it.
NR: <i>Donon se kar lete hain na </i>Manoj, <i>yeh bhi aayega na, yeh bhi to hai na.</i> (Let's get it done from both, no, Manoj. He'll also come no, he's there too.)
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MM: <i>Haan, haan,</i> means <i>apne ko toh do-teen cheez karni hai, to har ek cheez alag alag aadmi se lade toh</i> better <i>hai na.</i> (Yes yes, I mean, we have to do two-three things, so if we fight each thing with a different man, it'll be better, won't it.)
NR: <i>Better hai</i>,(It's better) much better, otherwise it doesn't become credible na?
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MM: That is what I'm saying, that is precisely what I'm saying. <i>Isliye aap ek baar phir bhi,</i> (So for this reason you please once more) you...finish your Vaishno Devi visit. And then during that time you just assess it once more, in your mind also, doesn't matter, you think about it.
NR: Okay.
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MM: Then Raja will go ahead and file, because Raja, I'm giving him all the green signal for going and getting all the documents ready and petitions ready and everything.
NR: Hmm.
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MM: Hmm?
NR: Hmm, perfect, what I'll do is I'll also talk to my team also, and I'll speak to Sunil one more time, <i>mujhe</i> (I) -
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Radia: Hi Shrini.
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Shrini: Hi Nira!
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Radia: Hi Hi Hi...
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Shrini: Back in Delhi or ?
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Radia: Back in Delhi. Back in Delhi...
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Shrini: Ok, you were on vacation?
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Radia: Uh. Ya. I went to Vaishno Devi.
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Srini: Vaishno Devi, ok (overlap)
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Radia: Aa.. I got back uhh... early this morning. (Giggles) (Sniff).
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Shrini: Ok. There was aaa this aa issue on society which aa
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Radia: Huh...
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Shrini:...Nitabhabhi wanted a conference call.
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Radia: I had a word with Manoj. He briefly got through to me yesterday.
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Srini: Ok.
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Radia: You see, I have a, I, I have a view which is, did we when we agreed with Shobaa De...I mean I don't know because we didn't -
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Shrini: No, we didn't agree with Shobhaa De. I'll explain to you.
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Radia: Uh huh!
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Shrini: See, uh...what had happened was aa the lady who is the editor, Ruchika Malhotra...
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Radia: Hm mm
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Shrini: Ok... she had become a mother and she had a two month old aa son...
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Radia: Hmm.
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Shrini: So because of that she was operating out of Delhi.
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Radia: Hmm.
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Shrini: Normally she would do those interviews but this time when she had asked Shobhaa De to do it.
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Radia: Hmmm.
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Shrini: Ok? And aa Shobhaa De thought it was her material and she had put it up on her blog...
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Radia: Hm.
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Shrini: ...the unedited version
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Radia: Hmmm...
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Shrini: Ok? Aaa...between the two of us we had aaa got an edited version to be posted in aa 'Society', in aa, 'Hello!'...
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Radia: 'Hello!', ya, ya ya...
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Shrini: Ok. Aa.. but the unedited one went on the blog, which we knew that had gone on the blog, because I had pointed out immediately saying the unedited version she had put it up on her blog, and her blog I can't do anything...
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Radia: Shobhaa?
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Shrini: Haan.
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Radia: No, the point I'm making is that your agreement was with Hello! Magazine and not with Shobhaa De...
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Shrini: No, it wasn't with Shobhaa De.
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Radia: Right? And therefore Hello! Magazine is responsible that the any interview that is done
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Shrini: Hm.
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Radia: Based...is remains with Hello! and doesn't get put out anywhere else? It is not Shobhaa De's propriety, no?
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Shrini: Hmmif .
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Radia: Am I right? I mean, the agreement, if I was to look at today, whenever you do anything, if the agreement is between you and Hello! magazine, who they nominate to do that interview is entirely up to them.
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Shrini: Correct. Huh.
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Radia: And therefore the onus falls on Hello! magazine.
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Shrini: Hm.
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Radia: And it was for Hello! magazine to make sure that she has to take the blog off.
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Shrini: Hmm.
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Radia: That's the first thing. The second this is...
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Shrini: See, see, then we should have actually taken this stance when Shobhaa De put it out on her blog saying it's not your personal propriety your asked for, it's Hello! magazine.
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Radia: How long ago was it...?
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Shrini: Two months ago.
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Radia: Shrini, it's the first time I'm hearing it went up on the blog...
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Shrini: No, no Manoj is aware two months ago it went on the blog. Immediately after it went on the blog...
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Radia: Huh..
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Shrini: Nitabhabhi had told all of us, why don't you guys meet up with Society, because Society is one place where i'm aa very aa concerned that they would do something nasty.
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Radia: Huh...
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Shrini:Ok? And she's upset cause apparently the meeting was scheduled with Society....
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Radia: Hmm...
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Shrini: And aa then aa the person was invited, to the.. to our new formed office and they didn't meet.
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Radia: Hmm...
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Shrini: So she says, that would have cheezed them off that that's why they did aa nasty one pager.
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Radia: No, why didn't we meet, any idea?
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Shrini: No, idea, seriously no idea. I mean I wasn't even aware that we didn't meet (Radia clearing throat) yesterday. That is what aa she is aa what she is very upset about.
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Radia: Hm. And what has come in Society, please tell me, what exactly has come. It's the entire article?
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Shrini: No, I haven't seen. No see, what they've done is uncredited... uncut, edited version apparently, they said aa, why is this aa been aa, why has this been aa edited, (voices in the background) why has this been edited? So, those kind of things is what they've put. Let me get a copy of Society, yesterday I tried in the news stand next to my house, I didn't get it.
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Radia: Hm.
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Shrini: I'll try and get it from here.
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Radia: Ok. Now there are two things as far as Society's concerned, which is what I told Manoj Warrier, yesterday, was very briefly when I got through to him, was, Society, you know, that Tina Ambani and Nari Hira have a different relationship and there is a financial relationship in place.
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Shrini: Hm.
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Radia: Are you aware of that, I don't know whether you are aware of that?
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Shrini: No, I'm not aware of that. No, I'm not aware.
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Radia: Ya, but there is for a fact, atleast for a fact that I understand that there is a financial relationship, why he needs the financial relationship I do not know, but unfortunately this is how they've been working and they have a very good understanding.
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Shrini: Hm.
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Radia: So I had indicated to Manoj, that whenever you approach Society, you have to, you cannot just go and tell them I'll to give you two ads because it's not going to work.
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Shrini: Hm.
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Radia: Are we prepared to engage with Society in a different manner? MidDay is totally under control, so you don't need to worry Shrini, because on Midday one is able to use their own relationships and particularly the relationships of the ones that we have through TATAs.
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Shrini: Ok. Hm.
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Radia: So, (clears throat) we also need to have some currency to go out there in the market and and have the relationship when it comes to a Reliance which is why I've been talking to MDA for the presentation and moving forward in a proactive way...
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Shrini: Hm.
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Radia:...because, (clears throat) you are sitting there just pushing negative stuff, or trying to block stuff and in exchange we're not giving them any other new stories
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Shrini: Hm.
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Radia: You know at the end of the day the media also works on certain...certain basis...so..
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Shrini: Ok. See I'll tell you... see see
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Radia: Uh huh..
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Shrini: What's her point, where she's coming from is...
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Radia: Um mm
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Shrini: Saying, ok fine, I asked you to do a aaa story in aa Bombay times on that school, which is not possible. Manoj took a call rightly or wrongly saying that if he's not sure that he's going to get a good prominent place he doesn't want to do that.
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Radia: Hmm.
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Shrini: Right? So, uhm, he says, I'm not getting any positive stories but atleast, I mean, negative stories can't be blocked, especially when I've told, saying Society I'm worried and a meeting was fixed and you guys didn't meet. She's coming from that angle. She's very upset on the fact that, I mean, she had pointed out twice, thrice, the meeting was fixed and you guys still didn't meet.
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Radia: Hmm. (Sigh). Ok. Let me have a word with him. You want to give me aa aa aa ten fifteen minutes to speak to Manoj first and then you want to connect a call or how do you want to do that?
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Shrini: Well, I think you should speak to Manoj first.
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Radia: Ya
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Shrini: Fifteen minutes, twenty minutes is ok.
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Radia: Ya. And then you'll connect me on
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Radia: Raja?
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Raja: hm mm mm.
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Radia: I need to talk to you on a landline.
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Raja: I don't know there is no phone here actually. All phones have been removed from the place where where I'm standing now, where where I'm meeting some people.
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Radia: Hm.
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Raju: There's no landline, completely no phone, all, all have been removed.
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Radia: He gave me some number, triple six nine six zero nine
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Raja: No, no, <i>aisa, no no, aisa kuch nahi hai </i> (nothing like that).
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Radia: Uh hmm.
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Raju: There is no phone.
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Radia: What time will you reach office?
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Raja: I don't know it may take some two three hours. Why? You want to talk on? Or you can talk from your Tata on this phone, no?
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Radia: This phone is ok <i>na</i>?
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Raja: <i>Haan</i> (Ya) ya ya, this phone is fine, it's not in my name.
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Radia: Ok, ok bye
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Nira: Harinder, hii!
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Harinder: Hi Nira! How are you?
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Nira: I'm fine. Harinder, I had a word with Sanjay Chandra on that property....
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Harinder: <i> Haanji </i> (Yes)
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Nira: Um, he said he'll have a look at it also himself...
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Harinder: Ya, actually, you know, I think, we also spoke on this and he said I want to see the property but yesterday I did sort of (inaudible) to him,
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Nira: Uh huh.
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Harinder: ...so probably, maybe or Monday tomorrow he would have a look at it. Did he tell you when is he planning to have a site visit?
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Nira: No, he didn't, but priniciply we'll go forward with it.
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Harinder: Ok. Wonderful.
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Nira: And ya... the only thing is, that I'm travelling from tomorrow...
-OK
Nira:....And I'm back only on Saturday.
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Narendra: Ok.
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Harinder: Ohhhok. Actually you know, I'm trying to work, I'll be very honest, you know, because this is something aa very well controlled by us but they had a (inaudible) they wanted to close on Tuesday evening, the you know, bids.
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Nira: Ah haan...
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Harinder: Basically we are only controlling the transaction so we are just getting three four competetive bids and you know because they have much if they go out all aggressively in the market...
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Nira: Ah haan...
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Harinder: ...they would have got, you know like too many bids on too many values but we are just trying to control in a manner that it should be a - minimum people should know and they should only give the support bids (voices in the background)...
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Radia: Right.
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Harinder: So... uh... that's why today also I've this meeting with the financer because I've to honestly, you know, take a decision between you and... So you are saying, in principle you are very confident that you want to move on with this?
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Radia: Ya, I think, I think, the price that you've mentioned, I think, you can make a bid for that. You know, we, we we we've we talked at about 60 roughly right?
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Harinder: Ya, that's right. That's the bid we're trying to give them and we're really keeping our fingers crossed that no body should you know come in between and spoil it at the last minute and we should be able to get it this out on this value.
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Nira: Right. But I think that... in from a 60 point of view I'm comfortable with that.
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Harinder: Yaah. And even we're trying to... are you... like looking at kind of some adjustments also that day you were mentioning broadly....because we are trying to work that around with them?
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Nira: Weeee.... in terms of uhh...
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Harinder: The payment moda....I mean mode of payment, ya...
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Nira: What we.. ya ya ya...Basically what we discussed with Sanjay that day,
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Harinder: Ya.
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Nira: ...along those lines...yaah.
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Harinder: Sure. So you, you going to be back on Saturday... and uuh till then...ok let me see...what I'll do is I'll put a support bid in from one of my companies
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Nira: Ya?
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Nira: Uh Huh?
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Harinder: ...considering you as a buyer...
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Nira: Ok. Ya you do that.
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Harinder: ...and there are two or three other bids I'm suppos.. I'm putting, so fine, I'll do it like so that I can drag it till Saturday-Sunday.
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Nira: Uh huh.
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Harinder: And in the mean time they will also two three weeks, so any which way we'll have to wait and watch for a couple of weeks after that but then then you back on Saturday then we can have a serious discussion in case you have any queries or anything...
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Nira: Ya.
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Harinder:...we can sort them....
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Nira: ...Then we can also (inaudible) we'll run through the finer details...
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Harinder: Ok
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Nira: But we can meet either on Saturday or on Monday -
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RB: Hello?
Nira: Hi! Sorry, I had to come out and talk.
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RB: You know I'm usually not...aa aa used to being stood up?
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Nira: <i>Arre, kya hua ya, kya?</i> (Hey what happened ya, what?), I didn't even know. I'm really sorry....(inaudible, overlaps). I can come after this meeting.
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Nira: What time does your lunch finish?
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RB: I'm joking I'm joking!
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Nira: <i>Accha, aap yeh batau</i> (Ok, you tell me), who are you? What did you say four thirty? (Phone ringing in the back ground) <i>Gurgaon mein kaun hai?</i> (Who's in Gurgaon?)
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Nira: Huh? (Phone ringing) Hang on, I'm gonna just come out this place. <i>Kudu!</i> (Give!). Uh huh Unisec...
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RB: Huh?
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Nira: Unitech.
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RB: Ohhh! No, no noo.. Don't cancel it.
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Nira: They will never otherwise ever uhh...give me uhh time you know.
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Nira: They've been avoiding me as is...I need to go and see them.
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RB: Now they've sold two hotels boss, they've got some money.
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Nira: No, but they keep on aaa playing up...and of course the sad...
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Nira: you know they talk about everything else under the sun,
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Nira: -other than what is outstanding...and i... it's crazy...i mean
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RB: Ahh...
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Nira: I mean, I just saved them from sixty sixty crores of a bounced cheque with Tata's another one...
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RB: Righ... another one?
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Nira: <i>Haan han!</i> (Ya ya!) Because all the cheques are bounced <i>abhi dhaiso crores ka</i> outstanding <i>hai</i> (Now there's a 250 crores worth of outstanding).
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Nira: <i>Aur</i> (and) aa.. all the cheques are bounced, this last one was also bounced.
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Nira: He told me this will go through and when I was there I mean I just...
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Nira: I don't know how many times iIve stopped them from going into liquidation.
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RB: You see, aand aa you are right. They think Anand Sharma is propreitary.
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Nira: <i> Haan</i> (Ya)
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RB:You are right.
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Nira: No, he told me. He told me very clearly on the phone <i>abhi to Anandji aa gaye hai</i> (Now that Anandji has come)...
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Nira: -look at the great way..thing, how much confidence Sonia Gandhi has in him...
RB:<i>Haan. Bus!</i> (Ya, that's it!)
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Nira: <i>Toh maine kaha, aap ko kya abhi funding milegi bank se?</i> (So, I said, now you'll get funding from the bank?)
RB:<i>Haan</i> (Ya) I was just going to say so...
Nira:<i> Maine kahan</i> (I said) I'm very happy <i>kyunke</i> (cause) then you can please settle all the bills.
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RB: (Giggles). No no be tough with them, be tough. Don't let it go...
Nira: Yah.
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RB: Cause... Anyway. <i>Nahi! Aisa hai,</i> (No, its like this...)
Nira: Hmm.
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RB: There is no rush, but, Monday Nira,
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RB: I am whole day in a board meeting and a executives' some ex-com meeting...
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Nira: Hmm.
RB: Tuesday... then it goes on to Tuesday...
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RB: Now the other thing is Sunil...
Nira: Hmm.
RB: As in Mittal.
Nira: Huh.
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RB: Yesterday was that idiot's place <i>na</i> uh,
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RB: ...what's his name, <i>arre kya naam hai uska??</i> (what's his name?)
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RB: Shit man I'm having amnesia.. or... Sohail Seth's place...
Nira: <i>Han Haan</i> (Ya ya)
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RB: Sunil met me briefly...
Nira: Haan.
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RB: And then he said,<i>yaar</i> aaa (giggles) <i>tuuu</i>, in his Punjabi style, he says, <i>yaar tu sabnuhi janda hai?</i> (Dude, you, you know everyone?).
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RB: <i>Main keha, Maine kahan,</i> (I said, I asked) 'Sunil what'd do you want?'
Nira: Hm.
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RB: <i>Kehnda he ki yaar</i> (Was saying, that dude...) oh... mentioned you.
Nira: Hm.
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RB: <i>Kehnda yaar,</i> (Said, dude!) I need somebody, I can't handle.
Nira: Hm.
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RB: I said, I told you. Now he wants to meet me...
Nira: Hm.
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RB: ...sometime during this weekend.
Nira: Hm. mmm..
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RB: Now, that's why I was keen to meet you so that we are on the same page...
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Nira: Dekh, what I can do is, the reason I had to come here because Tarun Das is, he's stepping down on Sunday...
RB: Hm. Mmm..
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Nira: And aaa to them it's a big thing.
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Nira: It's like almost father is leave - you know, I'm sorry, has left home (mumbling)...
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Nira: -or so the children have no father. You should see they are running around like headless...
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Nira: This is an organisation that has been built over forty years...I can't believe it...
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RB: They're feeling orphaned? Feeling orphaned?
Nira: They are completely orphaned ya.
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Nira: I was like I'm just so shocked. So now...
RB: (Inaudible) Monday, Tuesday?
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Nira: <i>Nahin</i> I can leave here in another, what, another hour max.
RB: <i>Hour na? Theek hai na..haan</i>.
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RB: <i>To aap aisa kara,</i> (Hour no? Ok, no...yes. So, what you do...), I've got somebody now...
Nira: You've got lunch? You've got lunch?
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RB: No no no... aaa.. I've got...<i>aap aisa karo, aap bara ek... yaar yeh to hamare toh?</i> (What you do, you by twelve, one... this is our..)
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RB: Can you make it at one to Oberoi?
Nira: <i>Haan!</i> (Yes!) Because I'll finish here I'll come straight, I'm free after that..
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Nira: Only thing I must make sure that I cannot liv -miss that four thirty...everything else I can cancel, no issue...
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RB: No no no... so <i>aap aisa karo, sava ek karlo...main</i> (what you do, make it 1,15, i'll...)
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Nira: (Inaudible) (Giggles)...
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RB: <i>Aajao aajao</i> (Come come) ..one fifteen one fifteen one fifteen make it one fifteen.
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NR: Hi.
RB: Hi, welcome back.
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NR: Thank you. Just got back, yeah.
RB: Okay, okay, listen, <i>bhai,</i> (brother) I told you...What I suspected is true...He (Mukesh Ambani) had called for something and then I just told him, I said I met Niira at a social function, and I said she just mentioned that, you know, Sunil (Mittal) wants to work. Uh, Sunil wants her to work for him on a...uh, on a...just on some loose arrangement.
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RB: And I said she was telling me that you, you are actually encouraging it. So he turns around and says, "<i>Haan boss, toh kya hua, </i>after all, <i>apne ko kya hai,</i> let everybody do well," ("Yes boss, so what, after all, what will happen to me, let everybody do well,") etc, etc.
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Ranjan: But there was no objection, so I said MDA, why don't you come out level with me...I said uh, okay, I said I haven't spoken to her on these lines, but I am asking you, I said are you okay with it? So you know, his words were, he says, "Boss, you know me better, I give people lot of latitude, it's for them to decide."
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Ranjan: So I said, basically, then that means, you know, you're not very keen. So he says, "<i>Mujhe kal phone aa gaya tha</i>." ("Yesterday I got a phone call.") now this is yesterday, he's telling me, yesterday evening.
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Ranjan: He says, "Just to close the loop, so that you know, she's not going to work for him because he wants a loose arrangement; and she said there's nothing informal. So he says she's not going to work for him."
NR: <i>Woh toh maine toh us din hi bol diya tha usko.</i> (I told him this that day only.)
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RB: So I think Niira, on that, limited treatment...<i>karna hai, aap soch lo.</i> (has to be done, think about it.)
NR: Hmm. <i>Woh toh</i> (So) limited arrangement you and I can work together, that's all I meant, I don't think we should do anything beyond that. But I don't want to meet him in his office.
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RB: Why should you? Why should you? Let him...Okay let me play this, huh? <i>Toh aap</i> anyways, Tuesday <i>ka toh aap bol do ki, aap</i> message <i>kar do, ki</i>(So anyway, about Tuesday, you message him saying): I'm real tied up. We'll come back to you, or some...<i>hai na</i> (right)?
NR: <i>Haan.</i> (Yes.) I'll tell him I've to go to Bombay for the day or so...
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Manoj: Can you talk now? Or you getting ready. You getting ready or can you talk now?
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Nira: Hello?
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Manoj: Can you talk now or are you getting ready?
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Nira: I'm getting ready but go you can carry on talking. (phone ringing in the background)
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Manoj: <i>Arre</i> then you call me from the car <i>na</i>.
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Nira: No no go on go on go on...you are on loud speaker phone.
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Manoj: Ohk, <i>theek hai</i> (alright).
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Nira: Hun...
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Manoj: Uhhhh...Prasad had called me...
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Nira: <i>Haan</i> (Yes)
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Manoj:...he was basically saying <i>woh</i> ET <i>ka story</i> (That ET story), you know...uuuh...uh... you should tell Soma or Rajesh that they cannot buy fertilizer or power plants because existing...
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Nira: They can't what?
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Manoj:...they can't be buying existing fertilizer or powerplants because that... those paaaa.. assets are passed through, fuel cost is passed through so there's no benefit to be derived for them because of aaaa lower fuel cost....
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Nira: I don't understand Manoj, sorry, come again.
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Manoj: <i>Nai Nai</i> (No No), these assssets...
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Nira: <i>Haan</i> (Ya)
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Manoj: ...they have thier fuel costs as pass through...
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Nira: Who, the fertilizer plants?
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Manoj: Yes...
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Nira: <i>Haan</i> (Ya)
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Manoj: ...which means if I use seven rupees <i>ka fuel or two rupees ka </i> fuel (fuel seven rupees or two rupees) it has to be passed through...
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Nira: <i>Haan</i> (Ya)
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Manoj: ... to the customer, so it doesn't make a difference as far as what is the price of fuel I'm buying it at.
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Nira: Right.
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Manoj: So he is saying that there is no benefit to be derived out of them acquiring any such existing asset. You should sensitise Soma oaa and Rajeev to the same.
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Nira: But what is the assets that they are acquiring?
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Manoj: No no, they are saying that they may be, they can acquire, theoretically they can acquire fertilizer plants to have consumed this gas. There are...the other point is that there are no assets that are available in the market for them to acquire which is a contestable point cause because assets ... and if you pay obscene prices any asset will be aba.. available to you.
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Nira: No, what you are saying is ADAG is gonna attempt to get...buy fertilizer plants, right?
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Manoj: Fertilizer or power plants...
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Nira: <i>Haan...</i> (Ya...)
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Manoj: ...existing...so that they can consume this gas.
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Nira: Hmm...
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Manoj: ...so that way. The other is, then he said that, 'You know we should tighten our intelligence a little more... you know this entire settlement story, you know where it is coming from? Murli Deora has given this story. I was sitting with him and he said that you know there is too much pressure being built so let me deflect it let me say settlement.' So i told him, 'Uncle, <i>kyun kar rahe ho aap aise?</i> (Why are you doing this?)'.
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Manoj: So he said, 'No no, there is too much pressure being built, so let the media get diverted a little.' I said I'm not, I'm, sir I'm not sure whether aaa...I mean I'm sure that is true but I also can tell you that (inaudible) Trivedi has been talking saying that he's going to aa ask Mukesh to look into how he can settle this issue. So he said ok. Then he said that, 'You know Amitabh Jhunjhunwala and Chalsani are not talking to the press. Aaa.. Amitabh is away in the US and Chalsani is somewhere in Vijaywada on a holiday...'
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Nira: Chalsani is...?
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Manoj: Away in aa ..
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Nira: Is where?
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Manoj: Vijaywada on a holiday...
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Nira: Manoj?
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Manoj: Hm.
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Nira: Hello?
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Manoj: Can you hear me?
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Nira: <i>Haan</i>. Chalsani is where?
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Manoj: In Vijaywada on a holiday. (voice raised)
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Nira: Hello Manoj?
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Manoj: Hellooo...
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Nira: Helloo
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Manoj: Hello hello hello...
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Pal pal pal pal...(Phone rings)
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R.K. Chandolia: Hello.
Niira Radia: Hi, how are you?
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RKC: <i>Haan,</i> (Yes) good afternoon, I'm fine, how are you?
NR: I'm all right. Well, I'm snowed under, in Bombay, or should I say washed under with the rain.
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RKC: Okay okay.
NR: How are you?
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RKC: When are you coming back Delhi (sic)?
NR: Not till um Tuesday - Wednesday.
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RKC: Okay, okay...could you speak?
NR: I did speak to Krishna Kumar, I did speak to him, he was supposed to tell the...take the...you see, let me tell you where they are coming from...they're going ahead, they want to do that, they (are) doing the hospital in Perambalur, no problem right? But what they want to do is, and because the charter of the trust allows them to do it only in a particular manner, what they have to do is, they have to provide equipment for the hospital.
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RKC: Okay.
NR: Or they will provide say, certain wards, they'll build certain wards or something. So the letter that we have to do, it's not a cheque-cheque that we give, we actually have to give a letter, and based on that letter, when they start working on the hospital, on certain areas that I decided, between the wards or equipment, then those disbursements start happening.
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RKC: Okay, <i>toh aap ek kaam karo na,</i> (so you do one thing,) you just talk...call him, minister...
NR: Hmm.
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RKC: And tell him, because he was waiting your call...
NR: He's waiting my call?
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RKC: <i>Haan, haan.</i> (Yes, yes.)
NR: Okay, has he left for Chennai or is he still here?
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RKC: <i>Nahin</i> (No), he is in Chennai.
NR: He is in Chennai, is it?
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RKC: <i>Haan, haan.</i>
NR: When will he come back?
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RKC: He'll come on Monday.
NR: He'll come on Monday. Okay, I'll have a word...
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RKC: <i>Aap baat karke mujhe bata dena aapki baat ho jab.</i> (Do let me know once you've spoken to him.)
NR: <i>Accha, theek hai</i> (Okay, alright). I'm sorry <i>maine phir uske baad</i> phone <i>nahin kiya, kyunki kal hi jaake baat hui hai.</i> (I'm sorry I haven't called since then, because the conversation just happened yesterday.)
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RKC: <i>Haan, haan.</i>
NR: So I...I...that's what he said to me, I just wanted that clarity. <i>Toh maine kaha jo bhi hai, tum letter leke jaake</i> submit <i>kar do na,</i> (So I said, whatever it is, you take the letter and submit it,) do a nice photo-op and all that. <i>Maine yahi usko bola tha.</i> (That's what I told him.)
RKC: <i>Haan, haan</i>
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Nira: <i>Haan</i> Manoj (Ya, Manoj).
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Manoj: Hmm... <i>Woh maine Raji ko dala tha woh Dadri pe update leneke liye unse</i> (I had placed Raji to take an update from them on Dadri)
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Nira: Kisko? Raji ko?
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Manoj: Raji, Raji Rajeshwari,
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Nira: Hmm...
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Manoj: Bangalore <i>mein jo hai na</i> (The one in Bangalore)...
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Nira: Hm.
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Manoj: Aaaa (throat clearing) he said that aaa she said that aaa <i>log bol rahe kiii jab se yeh</i> agreement sign <i>hoga usmein teen saal ke andar ham log</i> project <i>khada kar denge</i> (people are saying that from when this agreement will be signed, within three years of that we will pull up the project).
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Nira: Hm.
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Manoj: Aaa... after this is signed then we will sign the PPA and we've already got the EPC bid so we only need to place the order...
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Nira: Huh...
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Manoj: Once all these three happen then we can go ahead and get theee aaaa financial closure done...
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Nira: Hm.
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Manoj: ...and all clearances including land acquisition and environmental clearance are aaa available with us for the project.
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Nira: <i> Kahan available hain? </i> (Where are they available?)
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Manoj: <i>Woh bol rahe hai abhi available hai kar ke </i> (They are saying now that they are available).
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Nira: Hm. Put it on mail <i>na</i>.
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Manoj: Ya, I'll put on mail.
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Nira: <i> ST ko</i> separately <i>bhej dena </i> (Send it seperately to ST) that land clearances are available...
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai...</i> (Alright)
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Nira: But not...don't mark anybody on that mail...
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Manoj: <i> Nahi yeh wala mein...</i> (No this one i'm...)
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NIra: ...except for you you and me...<i>Ek to woh</i> mass mail <i>to karta</i> (He mass mails and all...) you don't need to mark when you marked Manoj Modi and everybody you don't need to mark Tushar and Karthik and all that <i>na</i>?...
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai</i> (Alright), ok.
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Nira: ...you should do one separately for them, you know... and you can mark me on that so I know what you've sent them.
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai</i> (Alright), ok.
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Nira: But aa largely you do this laundry list...
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai...</i> (Alright)
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Nira: (inaudible) because they'll never respond to it other wise...
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai</i> (Alright), ok.
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Nira: Aaaa... (sigh!) You wanna just aaa aa... This is important news...
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Manoj: <i>Haan</i> (Ya), I'll put it on mail... so i'll just put it for MM, PSP...PMSP, Raja and Shrini...
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Nira: Srini and...<i>haan</i>...
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai?</i> (Alright?)
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Nira: Shrini and me ...and Rohit, ya? So we are aware that aaa what is aa this thing. Now only one thing tell me, what's generally now the feedback of the media?
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Manoj: <i>Nahiee woh to bol rahe ke</i> (No they are saying that) RNRL has got aaa a (sic) upper hand on this...
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Nira: No doubt, ya.
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Manoj: Hm..
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Nira: No doubt.
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Manoj: Hmm..
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Nira: No doubt. I've no doubt, no doubt... My god! <i>Chaloh! </i> (Come, ok!) Hmm. No no response from... <i> Raja se baat hui tumhari? </i> (Did u have a talk with Raja?)
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Manoj: <i>Kuch nahi, kuch nahi kuch nahi kisi ke saath</i> (No. Nothing, not with anyone)...
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Nira: Have you called them?
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Manoj: <i>Haan</i> (Ya), I tried calling him, he is in a meeting...<i>toh</i> (so)...
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Nira:<i> Haan</i> (Ya), he was with the lawyers when I spoke to him earlier...
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Manoj: Hmm. If you hear anything you let me know, if I hear anything I will let you know.
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Nira: Of course. Will do will do. Ok.
(Tape ends)
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Manoj: Ok. Bye
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Unknown: Yes ma'am, good evening.
Niira: Oh, PKM <i> se poochhna ki</i> Telenor <i>ke upar kuchh</i> query raise <i>hua hai kya, un ki</i> security clearance <i>ke liye?</i> (Oh, ask PKM if any query has been raised about Telenor regarding their security clearance?)
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Unknown: <i>Achchha.</i> (Okay.)
NR: Because FIBP approval...
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Unknown: Hmm.
NR: ...Aah, because Telenor is a service provider in Pakistan also...
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Unknown: Uh, huh.
NR: ...But so is Swan then...
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Unknown: Okay.
NR: So, I believe there is a meeting on Monday...
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Unknown: <i>Achchha.</i> (Okay.)
NR: ...IB and all have a meeting on Monday to decide on Telenor.
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Unknown: Okay.
NR: <i>Ek baar</i> confirm <i>kar dena ki</i> issue <i>kya hai uska.</i> (Just confirm once, what the issue is.)
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Unknown: <i>Main abhi baat kar deta hoon.</i> (I'll talk right away.)
NR: <i>Nahin uska toh...</i>Swan <i>ka bhi aana chahiye</i> (No, so Swan's should also come) because they also have a Pakistan network <i>na</i>?
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Unknown: <i>Theek hai.</i> (Alright.)
NR: Okay, okay. Bye.

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NR: Hi.
RKC: Hello, how are you?
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NR: I'm still in Bombay, sorry, not been in touch. How are things, <i>tumhare mantri ka naam aa raha hai, yahaan pe</i> (Your minister's name is coming here)...
RKC: <i>Kisme?</i> (Where?)
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NR: <i>Yeh</i> (This), High Court matter in Chennai.
RKC: <i>Us se kya hoga,</i> (What will that do), he had nothing to do with that.
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(inaudible)
NR: <i>Nahin,</i> apparently, <i>jo naam</i> media <i>ko</i> circulate <i>hue hain na</i> 9 o' clock news <i>ke liye</i>... <i>Woh</i> A. Raja, Azhagiri - (No, apparently, the names which have been circulated in the media for the 9 o' clock news, they are A. Raja, Azhagiri -)
RKC: Hmm -
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NR: <i>To phir</i> Azhagiri drop <i>hua</i> because <i>unhone kaha ki</i> Azhagiri <i>nahin hai, to </i> Raja <i>ka naam sab jagah hai.</i> (So then Azhagiri was dropped because they said that Azhagiri is not there, so Raja's name is everywhere.)
RKC: Hmm.
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NR: This one also came off the air, Rajdeep (Sardesai) he also told me the same thing; NewsX told me the same thing, everyone is taking his name. In the evening I met Shivnath (Thukral), also from NDTV, <i>sabne yehi bola ki</i> (everyone said the same thing that) it's Raja's...I asked them, I said, "Whose name it is?", then I spoke to Times of India, because (I was) talking on my Gas story, so they said that the name that is being discussed is Raja...has been told to the Law Minister...is Raja.
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RKC: Hmm...I don't know, I didn't speak to anybody.
NR: Just letting you know...that his...there are very many people who just spread his name and it's not true you know, that's why I just called you as soon as I just got in, I said let me call you straight away.
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RKC: Okay, okay.
NR: I'm trying to call him, I tried calling him at home, minister, but uh, he's uh, the guard has answered the phone and said he's sleeping.
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Hello. Venkat sorry, I think the Network as usual. Yeah
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Ratan Tata: Hello, Niira,
Niira Radia: Hi
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Ratan Tata: Hi, no, I just actually, they've just come...so now we are going to the [?]institute and then to the airport (inaudible)...
Niira Radia: So, you're still in the Middle East?
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Ratan Tata: Yeah. I am still in Israel.
Niira Radia: Ok, ok, alright, great. So you'll be in London in the evening then
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Ratan Tata: Yeah, so if there's something, I can call you from the airport when we get there
Niira Radia: No, no nothing urgent. I just wanted to let you know that the indicative term-sheet has gone off to CRN Ravi
Ratan Tata: OK
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Niira Radia: And that process has started in terms of content. I think CR hasn't responded to the indicative term-sheet but I spoke to him and I think that's underway, and Sanjay had got a missed call from you yesterday, on his voice mail
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Ratan Tata: Yeah. I called him and he didn't pick up and then the voice mail came, and so...
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Niira Radia: That's right. He said that and then he sent me a very late SMS and I have given him Venkat's numbers now..
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Ratan Tata: No, I'll call him again today
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Niira Radia: Ok. Whenever he's... anyway, he's in [Gayden?] tomorrow and you should meet up with him tomorrow...whenever...I just wanted you to know. The budget was okay. Rural growth...
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Ratan Tata: Yeah. It didn't do anything one way or another. I guess the only concern I have is that I understand that Maran is going hammer and tongs for Raja. And I hope Raja doesn't trip or slip or...
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Niira Radia: No, he hasn't, because the chief justice has issued a statement that no minister called the high court judge.
Ratan Tata: Oh, really?
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Niira Radia: The Chief Justice of India has issued that statement. So that is clarified. And in any case that did not happen and Maran is made to look a little bit of a fool.
Ratan Tata: Okay.
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Niira Radia: And, in any case, if something did happen, as far as that is concerned, it would bring Kani (Kanimozhi) into that position, not Maran.
Ratan Tata: Okay.
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Niira Radia: I think that's a given. That's been decided between them. But there was no such thing that Raja has done.
Ratan Tata: Okay.
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Niira Radia: It was in any case, it was actually the president of the bar association who said "I know the minister" in an open court and the judge said don't bring the cabinet minister's influence in my court"
Ratan Tata: Okay.
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Niira Radia: Raja had not called up for that at all. That's got clarified.
Ratan Tata: Okay.
Niira Radia: Allright then, I will speak to you later. Have a good flight.

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Nira: Hello!
Prasad: Hello!
Nira: Hi!
Prasad: Yaa! Nira...
Nira: Mmhmm?
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Prasad: I don't know what is happening but the reality... Anyway Mukesh just asked me to tell you that... And... Hello!
Nira: Mmhmm!
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Prasad: Yaa! I think what Mahesh Agarwal who is the advocate on record for ADAG.
Nira: Hmm!
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Prasad: ADAG. I think I just saw him on the TV and Mukesh and Manoj must be seeing the same thing and they're getting excited and...
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Nira: No I just... I was just speaking to Manoj Modi just now two minutes back.
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Prasad: I don't know. Someone just called half a minute ago. Half a minute ago obviously Manoj said something to Mukesh and Mukesh called me.
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Prasad: The real... Ok anyway. There is nothing like that our stay application was rejected or refused. In fact we didn't ask for any stay.
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Prasad: It was Mukul Rohatgi who said that he wanted to argue for an interim relief and then the chief said I have these papers.
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Prasad: This big bunch papers came to me at 9 PM last night. There is no way you expect me to read all this.
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Nira: Hmm!
Prasad: Sorry I am not entertaining anything. Then Mukul said ok, then I will argue on the 20th. about some interim relief.
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Nira: Hmm!
Prasad: So it is not. We never even mentioned or even asked or remotely said anything connected to any interim relief.
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Nira: Listen I am watching all the channels. I am not seeing this come anywhere.
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Prasad: No, no, no, no. I just saw it on the CNBC.
Nira: On CNBC?
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Prasad: Yaa, yaa, yaa. It was there.
Nira: I'll...I'll get her on the line just now. Just speak to Shirin. I don't think that... Maybe Mahesh Agarwal has said it.
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Prasad: Yaa Mahesh Agarwal had said it. I am talking about.
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Nira: No I'll clarify it to Shirin right now, that is not the case.
Prasad: Yaa so that is one, and then the second thing is government is a respondent. They said that...
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Nira: That is correct. That is clarified. Haa!
Prasad: Yaa so the court said...
Nira: They did a spot.
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Nira: They have been mentioned since yesterday. They have been telling everybody since yesterday.
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Prasad: No just now. Just now I heard Mahesh Agarwal saying that government is not a respondent in this case.
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Nira: How can they lie? They are such liars. I'll just have a word with all the channels. Don't worry I'll just have a word with all of them.
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Prasad: Ok!
Nira: Yaa government is a respondent and...
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Prasad: Government is a respondent in our case.
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Nira: Yaa matter's listed. All parties including government has been served notice for 20th and that's exactly what we put out to everyone.
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Prasad: Right!
Nira: I'll have a word with all the channels to make sure that only what is fact comes out. Now if he want so come out...
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Prasad: Hello!
Nira: Mr. Prasad.
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Prasad: Yaa!
Nira: He was referring to his own petition where he said that the government is an intervener in their petition.
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Nira: The ticker has been removed on the stay also.
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Nira: Mahesh Agarwal also said that... What will you do? When the media asked him what will you do with this gas because you don't have any power plants.
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Nira: He said, we will do what Mukesh Ambani is doing with his gas. He is selling to other people. So they said that well that's trading.
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Nira: You are not allowed to trade. He said we are not trading, we are going to sell it. They said that's the same thing. So ET NOW has given him a nice bashing.
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Prasad: Hmm! No, no, but...
Nira: So that...
Prasad: No, no, I saw they... When they took him up.
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Prasad: Not ET NOW. I was seeing on CNBC.
Nira: In the sense CNBC has taken him off now and they have also clarified that he is referring to his own case being an intervener.
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Prasad: Ok.
Nira: He said my...
Prasad: But the way he is saying is government... No he never said that ehh!
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Prasad: I have heard that the government is not a respondent. So government won't... Something like that.
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Nira: It's taken off Mr. Prasad.
Prasad: Ok, ok, ok. That's...
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Nira: It's taken off. It's taken off and Shirin has said. I have just spoken to her. She said he is an idiot. He is talking about trading gas and I will deal with him later she said.
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Prasad: Ok, ok, ok. Good!
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Nira: Yaa! Any case let him. Let him... That story will come tomorrow that he says he can trade gas and he will get a nice bashing for it.
Prasad: Good!
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Suhel Seth: Hello?
Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i>.. you already down <i>ha</i>..
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Suhel Seth: I'm miserable you can't imagine.
Niira Radia: My God! You're sounding awful.
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Suhel Seth: How's your tooth?
Niira Radia: My tooth.. swelling's gone down.. little pain, but I'll be okay. But I'm on medication.
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Suhel Seth: Anyway you were right about what you said about that other person doing the mischief.
Niira Radia: Hmm..
Suhel Seth: (Coughs)
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Suhel Seth: Yesterday I met this lady called Heather Timmons, you know of the New York Times? So she said that apparently those guys are really going all out ha.. and I had a word with Jaitly also, when I got back. I was going to meet these guys for dinner on Sunday night but I was in no shape.
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Suhel Seth: In fact yesterday Ryan also dropped by because I was in no shape to go anywhere. And I told him that this is what Niira's said.. I just don't know.. you forwarded that SMS to me..
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Suhel Seth: I have also done my own investigation.. I said that how many bloody investigations do you do where everything is wrong? You said you have done investigations.. He said <i>nahi nahi...mereko yeh bola gaya</i> (I was told so.)
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Suhel Seth: I said she doesn't have the time. On the contrary she has offered any assistance whenever you need it. Not for this kind of stuff but any genuine you know.. dissemination.
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Suhel Seth: So he says no no.. that's damn sweet and this and that. So I am glad <i>yaar</i> we clarified this because this is a bloody cruel country I have now realized..
Niira Radia: It's an awful country. I don't know what we are doing here I tell you.
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Suhel Seth: I'll tell you. No, but Niira I'm again off tomorrow- day after, you know for my genuine holiday. And I am so happy- I was telling my mom just now.
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Niira Radia: Where you going?
Suhel Seth: I am going off to Umbria.
Niira Radia: Oh lovely!
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Suhel Seth: And then to Monaco because some of my friends have a place there... in Italy. So just about 8-10 of us they've invited. All you do is just chill. No bloody Advani, Vajpayee, Sonia, nothing of that nonsense.
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Niira Radia: Oh lovely! In the night I wish I could get away from this place, gosh!
Suhel Seth: You're in the thick of it, in more ways than you can ever imagine!
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Niira Radia: I know..
Suhel Seth: But, what happened? Wasn't there some hearing or court season?
Niira Radia: Today's case got lifted for 20th.
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Suhel Seth: Oh.. 25th of July?
Niira Radia: 20th..
Suhel Seth: <i>Haan</i>..
Niira Radia: 20 July.
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Niira Radia: So we will have another grind for another week and listen to all this... nonsense that they will put out for sure..
Suhel Seth: It's just ridiculous.
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Niira Radia: Yeah..
Suhel Seth: But you know also everything that he had sent to Manoj.. there's no situation.. they don't have a case.. the Bombay fellow had obviously given a..
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Niira Radia: No you know.. he got paid off.. Gulam Vanavati is sitting there <i>na</i>..
Suhel Seth: And you know he is his best friend <i>na</i>..
Niira Radia: Hmm.. absolutely.
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Niira Radia: Absolutely.. <i>kya karenge?</i> (What will they do?)
Suhel Seth: But I'll tell you, it's so sad.
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Niira Radia: <i>Toh Suhel, kya karoge? Batao na, kuch karo</i> (So Suhel what will you do? Tell me... do something)
Suhel Seth: <i>Main toh abhi jaa hi raha hoon. Main kya karoonga?</i> (I am going now. What can I do?)
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Suhel Seth: But.. one minute.. my dog is also going berserk. Google! Sit down.
Niira Radia: (Giggles) I love that name! Google!
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Suhel Seth: Because he can find anything that none of us can find. Obviously coz he has hidden it.
Niira Radia: (Laughs) So sweet!
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Suhel Seth: No.. so what I'll do is.. I'll be honest with you.. I've not even gotten up, so that I can put pen to paper. Otherwise in any case I'm there.. and .. do you want me to speak to anyone? Not that you don't know anyone..
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Suhel Seth: I'm probably meeting Pranoy day after for lunch. I'm certainly meeting him. I don't know if it will be for lunch or whatever. But I'll also talk with him because he is also closer to the older fellow.
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Niira Radia: No we'll be meeting him actually. Meeting him on Thursday also.. I'm also meeting him.
Suhel Seth: Oh brilliant! You better make sure that we don't coincide.
(Both laugh)
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Niira Radia: Yeah but what I thought was you know.. if you write Suhel that this was so good.. but you'll talk from there.. you are on a pakka holiday..
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Suhel Seth: Actually I'm on a pakka holiday for once. You know why? Because every bloody time I go there's some CII nonsense, some other nonsense. <i>Main toh phone hi nahin leke jaa raha</i> (I am not taking the phone at all)
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Suhel Seth: Otherwise there's no way yaar! I'm telling you we are always just.. I mean I don't know how you do it.
Niira Radia: I'm trying to get a break, it's just crazy.
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Suhel Seth: But when are you going to take a break?
Niira Radia: I don't know. I was hoping to do it last week but obviously that didn't happen. So maybe after the 20th. I will take off for a week or something.
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Suhel Seth: Where? In Europe?
Niira Radia: Yeah. Europe, yeah. I wanted to also go to Italy.
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Suhel Seth: If you're in London, then just SMS me. I'm back in London on the 24th.
Niira Radia: Yeah I should be. You know I was gonna go for that Michael Jackson concert..
Suhel Seth: Are you serious?
Niira Radia: ... the last concert.. I was supposed to go in a day or two.
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Suhel Seth: Oh God!
Niira Radia: Yeah well that's gone. So can't go. I had already got my....In fact my friends had arranged for us all to go. There was a box there so I was gonna go.
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Suhel Seth: Oh my..
Niira Radia: Anyway. Now we can't go. Anyway he's not there so.. we'll do something else. I don't know if this matter is coming up on the 20th when I can travel.
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Niira Radia: So lot of things going on even on the Tata's side. There's so much going on. So I need to get away for a week and take..
Suhel Seth: But Tata has frankly everything under control in the media atleast <i>na</i>?
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Niira Radia: Yeah media is under control but there are a lot of stuff that they are handling at the policy level no?
Suhel Seth: Correct, correct but I'm saying thank God atleast at the media level there's no.. nothing.. it's all good on the contrary.
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Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah it's all under control. Thank God! My God or else can you imagine if they both ...
Suhel Seth: I swear man.. it would have been unbelievable.
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Niira Radia: But on the 20th its also the Tata Power matter haan.. the Sasan matter. That's also coming up in the Supreme Court.
Suhel Seth: What is that matter yaar?
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Niira Radia: They have .. Anil Ambani fixed the EGoM to get diversion of coal. So he diverted ..
Suhel Seth: I will ask one thing.. only between the two of us.
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Niira Radia: Hmmm...
Suhel Seth: If the older fellow has so much of influence, how come the younger bugger is being able to do so much?
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Niira Radia: See last time also Amar Singh's .. after the nuclear deal.. it has limited his period of 3-4 months. And then they said they will get reports of the nuclear deal. It was only limited in that period. After that everything is.. you know.
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Niira Radia: Then Amar Singh made sure he did what he could. And even all the ED enquiries that Anil Ambani has started again.
Suhel Seth: Thank God.
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Niira Radia: So even he has borrowed 10 billion dollars in two years.
Suhel Seth: But wasn't that something that apparently he had taken money against some foreign holding and got it back or some rubbish like that?
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Niira Radia: Basically he's played according to... sort of .. all the figures that have been brought to us. He's roughly played about 40,000/- in the market and lost it.
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Niira Radia: When he has to pay it back, his balance sheet's showing right now a debt of 75,000 crores. And unless he can bring in equity which his brother won't allow him to bring in 'cause he's got the ROFR... he can't do anything.
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Niira Radia: So he can only fight us in court and use the media and do whatever he wants. So he's in a tight corner.
Suhel Seth: My God yaar!
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Niira Radia: And this whole gas thing is for nothing else. He is just basically saying, give me money.
Suhel Seth: But the older fellow shouldn't succumb.
Niira Radia: Nothing at all. He is really sure.
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Suhel Seth: They should really nail him.
Niira Radia: He is gonna nail him. He has had enough of him.
Suhel Seth: And plus he is no ones' friend.
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Niira Radia: No he is no ones' friend. You see, look at it now Suhel. All the industries are on one side and Anil on one side.
Suhel Seth: I was speaking at a function on June 30 of the HSBC's.. I was in it together.. sitting at the same table.. he was bitching aloud...
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Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah in fact he is back tomorrow in Delhi.
Suhel Seth: Who?
Niira Radia: Sunil no..
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Suhel Seth: Okay.. I don't know.
Niira Radia: He was also saying that he had had enough of him. He has been fighting...
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Niira Radia: So we are all.. everyone's now on one side including the Tata's, because Tata is also battling this issue out. And he.. Anil's on one side. So maybe we should all just get together and.. put this misery to an end, finally.
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Suhel Seth: I can't even laugh, my chest is aching.
Niira Radia: He is a misery, isn't he?
Suhel Seth: It is a pain in the ass!
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Suhel Seth: If it weren't for him you would have been on your holiday by now.
Niira Radia: Isn't it.. just.. my God!
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Niira Radia: <i>Chal</i> I won't be talking to you otherwise..
Suhel Seth: Oh God!
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Niira Radia: Then.. get well soon..
Suhel Seth: Are you in Delhi?
Niira Radia: I am in Delhi, yeah.
Suhel Seth: Okay then I'll give you a buzz tomorrow. If you're free and all that. Let's hook up at least for a drink.

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Niira Radia: Hi Rajdeep, sorry 
Rajdeep Sardesai: <i>Haan bolo...</i>
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Niira Radia: No I thought maybe you are in Italy after the budget.
Rajdeep Sardesai: No, no yaa where <i>yaar</i>...? I am going to meet the finance minister today after the budget for a idea that I want to share with him.
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Niira Radia: <i>Achha achhaa.</i> I was just talking to Suhel and he was going off on his holiday after he's recovered from his...
Rajdeep Sardesai: Suhel Seth has a lot of time and money, neither of which I have at the moment.
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Niira Radia: (laughs)
Rajdeep Sardesai: So I have to...
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Niira Radia: You've got a cold, is it?
Rajdeep Sardesai: No, no yaar, no no where yaa, it's hot yaar, it's hot as ever
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Niira Radia: It's awful, it's awful
Rajdeep Sardesai: Awful
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Niira Radia: Rajdeep, Manoj Modi is in town tomorrow
Rajdeep Sardesai: OK
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Niira Radia: And we are coming across to the Network 18 office in Noida tomorrow. Meeting Raghav and we were wondering if you were there
Rajdeep Sardesai: What time?
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Niira Radia: We are coming across at 3 30.
Rajdeep Sardesai: <i>Haan</i> 3 30 is fine because 12 to 2 I have a meeting. 3: 30 is perfect.
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Niira Radia: We are there at Raghav's office at about 3:30. Can we meet up with you as well and have a run over with the gas issue and all that has been going on?
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Rajdeep Sardesai: Sure, sure, sure. But I think it might be easier because... I maybe... just suppose maybe if I have to cancel my Parliament thing, if I am not there, who will you meet in case I am not there?
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Niira Radia: We are meeting Raghav, and Raghav said he may as well just call Shireen in
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Rajdeep Sardesai: <I>Haan</i> that's that's we'll take everything from them. But I want Manoj to meet Sameer Manchanda because Sameer and Manoj had a long chat in between on the cable thing.
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Rajdeep Sardesai: So I'll make sure that if I cannot be, I've committed to someone in Parliament, I realize now, if I don't return by 3:30 it will be a problem.  
Niira Radia: hmhmm
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Rajdeep Sardesai: But if I can, I will come, otherwise, uhhh if I can get someone from our team also to be briefed along, at that time I am fine, but frankly Shireen is the reporter who covers (inaudible) and all that
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Niira Radia: OK great because Raghav in his last convo had indicated, he said (inaudible) so Manoj said: Why don't we just go across to their office and I said I haven't even been across to your office...
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Rajdeep Sardesai: My own, my own sense that I get is that if Shireen is briefed properly, then we'll be fine because we'll take all our stuff from them. But if possible, if one of our guys who is covering it in the court can also be briefed, nothing like it.
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Niira Radia: OK OK.
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Niira Radia: Paddy, hi.
Padmanabhan: Hi, good evening.
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Niira Radia: Good evening, Paddy. Paddy, I had a word again with RIL yesterday based on what happened. Their view is that this government is saying that there is excess gas right now. Why should you still not write in and say that given that you are saying that there is excess gas, why can't we still have gas?
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Niira Radia: Forget about what Shinde's saying, that besides that there is excess gas available he should actually give it to us because we do believe that we can run units six and units four.. with.. efficiently with the availability of 1 MMSCD and 2.5 respectively.
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Padmanabhan: I agree with that. It is absolutely right. That is what we are writing to the government. It's actually in all the letters. We have been.. there is some 8 or 10 such communications that have gone to the government.
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Niira Radia: I saw that, yeah. He is saying send another letter. He is meeting Shinde. And he is also going to have a word with Murli as well as I think they are going to meet the PMO.
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Niira Radia: Because their view is that this is nonsense and that Tata Power who could do with this gas and who can.. and you know right now you have got no capacity of 150 megawatts in Bombay when you could do it. You desperately need it.
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Niira Radia: He doesn't see why this should not be allocated straightaway. So they're gonna use their pressure and they're gonna push for it immediately. So what he is saying is that it's worth sending another letter saying that you know, you've got excess power, excess gas, so please make sure we get it.
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Niira Radia: And it is for us to demonstrate that we can operate these two units efficiently.
Padmanabhan: In fact I can write that letter which we have seen.. the recent one which we sent was as late as a week back.
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Padmanabhan: We can write a letter to the Ministry of Power to .. in fact yesterday also we met with Bakshi in Central Electricity Authority. And who said that yes 1 MMCNB we will definitely get for you. But we are pushing for one more. That was what Bakshi said.
Niira: Correct, yeah.
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Padmanabhan: All that is fine. How do I link it to this case? If I just have to write a letter, I will definitely write a letter.
Niira Radia: No, I think you can say that you are also concerned that there is a High Court judgment.
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Niira Radia: That gives allocation to a company on two counts- one that there is disparity of pricing where there 4.2 versus 2.34 and also gives it allocation of 28 MMSCD. We are concerned because we have an existing power plant.
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Niira Radia: And we would request that our gas atleast be given to us ASAP. You can bring that paragraph in and say we are concerned with this. No harm.
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Padmanabhan: I am just playing the Devil's advocate to make sure that we get this concept clear. On the volume, yes. I guess Tata Power can write that you know the extra road etc. and we get to understand that there is a judgment. And you would be considered for the allocation.
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Padmanabhan: I would not be able to bring in a price.. the price that (?) gas has allocated to us is at 4.2. It will be too much of excess to bring up the price aspect.
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Niira Radia: No that's fine, I think as long as you focus on allocation I think price is by the by really. So allocation is so critical right now. I think you're right actually. Maybe you could just go with allocation and that's perfectly fine.
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Padmanabhan: Yes because see, we are also...if you look at the set of correspondents other than this, we have to push in GAIL to give us gas. What is our primary requirement? Without the case just to ensure that we get a lower cost fuel compared to oil that we are importing right now..
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Padmanabhan: So we are pushing hard for that so that (inaudible) consumer tariff may be low.
Niira Radia: Absoutely. I said that's what you should mention.
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Niira Radia: You can say that you are paying considerably more, right now, right?
Padmanabhan: Yes of course..
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Niira Radia: You said you can't mention what price but you could mention that you are paying considerably more right now... from the government determined price of 4.2.
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Niira Radia: I think you should then - oh God, my computer has gone crazy now. Sorry that was my computer, suddenly made that sound...<i>nahin</i> (no), you could say that you are paying considerably more than what the government determined price of 4.2 is and as a result of this we would only get better benefit as a consumer.
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Niira Radia: That will be great. I'm putting out the GVK letter tomorrow in the media.. should be front page Economic Times tomorrow. In that there will be a mention that even Tata Power has applied for 1 and 2.5.. and that's all...but then our story of the shortage of power in Mumbai and all that.. that's gonna come next week in a big way.
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Padmanabhan: Okay.. and so the new letter that goes.. it will have one line reference to the High Court attachment.. other than that everything else has been said in the various letters.. you just go through all those letters. Everything else has been said.. it's just (inaudible) to the High Court judgment.
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Niira Radia: I think you'll say that.. this is it and you have concerned with allocation and you'd also say that.. the government determined price of 4.2 if you are given gas and that will only benefit the consumer.
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Niira Radia: And allocation is concerned given that this High Court judgment is there and we're a little concerned with it... as we have an existing power plant. I'm not wording it very well Paddy, but I'm just thinking aloud while I'm talking to you.
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Padmanabhan: No I generally get the hang of what you are saying.. give me one evening to host dinner and (?).
Niira Radia: Okay no problem.. perfectly fine.. just give me a call if there's anything I need to clarify. See we will push for you to ensure that you get your 3.5.
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Niira Radia: Because you have asked for 2.5 and 1, isn't it?
Padmanabhan: To GAIL I've asked for 1..
Niira Radia: So they're saying they'll give you 1 and 2.5.
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Padmanabhan: Yesterday you wanted to know if there's any department to let us know specifically, there is no letter to us but there is one notification which I will forward it to you today, or early tomorrow morning.
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Niira Radia: Paddy can you fax it to me.. would that be easier?
Padmanabhan: I will email it to you, you know.. that would be faster.
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Niira Radia: And also this Shinde's letter that went to the Minister.. that letter (inaudible)Vikas sent to me wasn't clear. Is it possible to put that on a scanned copy as well so that I can get a better copy?
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Padmanabhan: I will see if I can email you the original version. What came from Mantralaya was itself in a very bad shape..
Niira Radia: I think by the time it was faxed to me, (inaudible)half of it missing.
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Rakesh: Haan, hello.
Niira Radia: Hi Rakesh.
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Rakesh: Accha quickly just tell me one thing..
Niira Radia: Hmm?
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Rakesh: Why is that.. you made the petition there in Supreme Court.. and you made... government doesn't intervene.. am I right?
Niira Radia: No, they are respondent not intervener.
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Rakesh: That is what I just wanted to check. Because the other side has been repeatedly saying that government has not been given a notice or anything.
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Niira Radia: No, government has been given a notice. I don't know what they are talking about.
Rakesh: No, we wrote a story..
Niira Radia: In fact yours is a very good flash. They aren't- they have been given a notice- that's very clear.
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Rakesh: So.. which is why I was just confused that what.. <i>matlab isme jhagda kya ho gaya hai?</i> (What is the argument in this?). If they are respondent, why other side should be so uncomfortable on this?
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Niira Radia: <i>Unko nahin accha lagta na ki government ko aana chahiye. Kya kare hum log abhi? Unko tension hota hai</i> (They don't like the government in this. What can we do now. They get tensed.)
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Niira Radia: Mahesh Agarwal came out and told CNBC.. <i>usko poocha gaya ki kya kar rahe ho tum log gas ke saath to kehta hai wohi karenge jo Mukesh Ambani kar raha hai.. hum bechenge gas..</i> (He was asked what will you do with gas and he said we will do just what Mukesh Ambani has been doing- we will sell gas).
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Niira Radia: He said its not called trading its called selling. C'mon he thinks.. the world is stupid or what?
Rakesh: And then one of his.. says didn't you notice so I checked up again..so I was still under confusion that what is the position on this. That's the reason I ringed (sic).
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Niira Radia: <i>Nahin, government ko notice gaya hai ..</i> (No, the government has been issued a notice..)
Rakesh: My legal team guys, they say- that it is as intervenor and not as a respondent.
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Rakesh: Earlier you wanted a respondent, but registration government cannot be made a respondent you will have to..
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Niira Radia: <i>Pehle toh.. teen din se pehle yeh log baat kar rahe hai ki government should be.. aapko bhi pata hai registrar kabhi rokta nahin hai.. </i> (First of all, three days back these people spoke and the government should be... and you know that the registrar never stops..)
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Rakesh: <i>Nahin, woh nahin rokega</i> (No, it won't stop)
Niira Radia: <i>Matter mein bhi, inhone yehi chalaya tha last time bhi.. ko government cannot be a respondent, registrar ne aisa bola hai</i> (In that matter also, they did the same thing last time.. that the government cannot be a respondent and the registrar said so.)
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Rakesh: Haan, haan
Niira Radia: <i> Haan toh registrar toh har cheez inke kehne pe toh nahin karega na?</i> (Yes so the registrar won't do everything that they say right?)
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Rakesh: No, they can't buy the..
Niira Radia: It's not upto the registrar na.. its upto the court to decide whether you want.. I mean, upto the government to decide that.. we wrote respondent and sent it yesterday.
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Niira Radia: All sides have been issued notice.
Rakesh: My team members all still saying.. the High court team.. the Supreme Court team.. we have a strong team in there.. still intervenor not as a.. and that's what they had given that's the reason I wanted to recheck with you.
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Niira Radia: But you had given what? Intervenor or respondent?
Rakesh: <i> Shuru mein toh hum logon ne notice diya</i> (We gave a notice in the start). We kept quiet on that government has been issued a notice.
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Rakesh: Now sometime back, in Supreme Court we have a person called Indubam. He covers Supreme Court for us.. the corporate side. And she gave us a story that it is an intervenor.
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Rakesh: And in the meanwhile one of the Tony's teams told me, <i>ki woh government ko notice nahin mila. Toh maine kahan yeh kya mazak ho gaya?</i> (That the government hasn't got the notice. So I said what joke is this?)
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Niira Radia: <i>Government ko notice gaya hai</i> (Government has been issued a notice).
Rakesh: <i>Haan toh notice gaya hai</i> (Ok so the notice has been issued.) Wanted to just confirm that.
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Niira Radia: It's gone, it's gone.
Rakesh: <i>Aur kya baaki haal hai?</i> (How is everything else?)
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Niira Radia: I'm fine, very fine. How are you, how is your health?
Rakesh: <i>Main bilkul theek thaak hoon</i> (I am very fine). I am going to fall sick in case you don't need me now.
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Niira Radia: I will meet you on thursday. See if I can come at 6 o'clock.
Rakesh: I will ring you up in an hour's time is that okay?
Niira Radia: Sure, sure.

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man's voice: Just one second, huh, just one second...
Niira Radia: Hi
Ratan Tata: Hi
Niira Radia: Hi. You've got the media chasing me on Mr Tata being approached for becoming the chairman of the international advisory committee for Air India.
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Ratan Tata: It's true.
Niira Radia: Hmmm
Ratan Tata: Nothing has happened. He did come to see me.
Niira Radia: Praful?
Ratan Tata: No, no, the current CEO.
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Niira Radia: Jhadav, yeah? He's Praful's henchman.
Ratan Tata: Is he?
Niira Radia: Hmm. Completely.
Niira Radia: He's been brought in to safeguard the Boeing deal.
Ratan Tata: Oh really?
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Niira Radia: So they put out a story saying that, you know, they're trying to build credibility right now. So I got a call from Times of India saying that Mr Tata has been approached. I said I have no comment to make.
Ratan Tata: Yeah, I think that's what you should keep saying till we hear anything.
Niira Radia: They are going to run the story in any case... because Praful has gone on record to say that you've been approached.
Ratan Tata: Let him go on record.
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Niira Radia: We'll just maintain ‘no comment'.
Ratan Tata: Yeah, yeah.
Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah. I'll do that. I'll maintain ‘no comment'. Yeah, I'll do that. You landed in London?
Ratan Tata: No I'm sitting on the ground in Tel Aviv.
Niira Radia: Oh gosh! What happened?
Ratan Tata: The plane is two hours late. We're all in the plane.
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Niira Radia: Oh, dear me. Oh, gosh. Oh dear me. I'm sorry. You should fly in your own plane.
Ratan Tata: Yeah, I know. He kept saying we should do that. I kept saying no. Maybe it wouldn't have worked out, apparently there's a rain storm in London, everything slowed down, we would have been diverted somewhere else.
Niira Radia: It would've still been your own plane.
Ratan Tata: Yeah, being in your own plane in Brussels [?] won't give you much... you know,... much joy
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Niira Radia: Hmmm. OK. Oh dear me, so you'd reach quite late tonight, huh?
Ratan Tata: Well it is [unclear]
Niira Radia: So you are going to Gaydon, or are you going to London?
Ratan Tata: I am not going to Gaydon, I am not going there at all.
Niira Radia: Okay. There's a programme tomorrow, right?
Ratan Tata: But I think that's in London.
Niira Radia: Oh, it's in London, okay, okay.
Ratan Tata: Yeah.
Niira Radia: Okay, alright.
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Ratan Tata: It's a bloody black tie affair.
Niira Radia: It's a black tie affair? Gosh.
Ratan Tata: You know how much I love those.
Niira Radia: Oh, you should have invited me. I could have worn my black gown.
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Ratan Tata: You could have worn your black gown and gone in my place. I hate black tie affairs.
Niira Radia: I never get a chance to wear my black gown, Ratan.
Ratan Tata: We'll make some....we'll make some occasion for you in Bombay.
Niira Radia: Yeah, because I have got this Roberto Cavalli gown, you know, which I never get a chance to wear.
Ratan Tata: It's a what??
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Niira Radia: I have this Roberto Cavalli gown which I never get a chance to…
Ratan Tata: Is it in Bombay or London?
Niira Radia: No, I've got it lying, you know, with me in Delhi, so I can go wherever with it, but I never get a chance to wear it.
Ratan Tata: Well then, you wear it when you meet Hillary Clinton or — or whom could I suggest? who would be a befitting person to…
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Niira Radia: (laughs) No. I'll wear it when you next wear a black tie, or… you call me.
Ratan Tata: Okay.
Niira Radia: I'll do that
Niira Radia:  You got hold of this guy, Sanjay, did you speak to him?
Ratan Tata: Yes, I did, I just did.
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Niira Radia: Was he alright?
Ratan Tata: Yeah. He's fine. And he thanked me and said he won't see me tomorrow because he's going to Africa tonight ….
Niira Radia: Kenya, Kenya. He's going to Kenya. He told me quite late that he's going to Kenya. He also manages all the private funds of all the rich Indians in Kenya and Tanzania.
Ratan Tata: I see.
Niira Radia: All the sugar lobby.
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Niira Radia: It's amazing the portfolios he's got.
Ratan Tata: Yeah, must be. Yeah, yeah.
Niira Radia: Yeah, he told me... I had just gone to see Mr Muthuraman a short while ago. He was at the Tata House, at Prithviraj Road.
Ratan Tata: Yeah. You did?
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Niira Radia: Yes, I went to meet him on the (inaudible) issue and met him. And Mr [AB or AV] Baijal and Nirolkar [?]... [not clear] Nice, nice, nice discussion. It was quite good. He's quite pragmatic, I must say.
Ratan Tata: OK, OK.
Niira Radia: Once I talked to him, he's quite pragmatic, yeah. He's good, he's good.
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Niira Radia: I am on my... gonna go home... and today the court case happened, by the way — the Supreme Court — between the two brothers... nothing, they just [?] till the 20th
Ratan Tata: Which one?
Niira Radia: The one between the two brothers...
Ratan Tata: Oh, the one he filed, and caveat
Niira Radia: Ya.
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Niira Radia: Both had filed. Anil had also filed. They've given a date for the 20th.
Ratan Tata: I see
Niira Radia: And by the way, our matter for Sassan also comes up on the same day, before the same bench (laughs)
Ratan Tata: OK. Before the same bench?
Niira Radia: Yes, the chief justice. That'll be interesting
Ratan Tata: Both these cases are before the same judge?
Niira Radia: Yeah, they are, yeah
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Ratan Tata: So you will have three cases before them?
Niira Radia: Yes, so you will have one case where we'll say there's been this foul play ... Anil Ambani and then two cases clubbed together between RIL and RNRL. So that'll be quite interesting. Will be quite good. Anyway, let's see.
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Niira Radia: I have every intention of ensuring that we......- By the way, AT&T has cancelled their interaction with Anil Ambani.
Ratan Tata: Oh really?
Niira Radia: What happened, Mukesh sent ... used his US lawyer to send them a letter ... saying that we have an ROFR in place, and they wrote back saying they were examining this and the matter is too complicated, and they have no intention of going forward. Given that it could just not end anywhere.
Niira Radia: Thank God for that. So now he is talking about China Power.
Ratan Tata: I see
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Niira Radia: For his power company. Yeah, he has to raise money.
Ratan Tata: I doubt that China Power would like to go into that transaction because they are so conservative.
Niira Radia: Hmmmm. He's offering them 10 per cent only. There the ROFR is not going to matter.
Ratan Tata: When we offered them something like that, they weren't at all interested.
Niira Radia: Hmmm. Maybe not.
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Ratan Tata: They wanted control and so on and so forth, right?
Niira Radia: So now…
Ratan Tata: I can find out but I don't want to be unduly interested.
Niira Radia: But he's got now. In the telecom space France Telecom has said no to him. AT&T has said no. MTN has said no. I think is it Telstra?
Ratan Tata: Of Australia?
Niira Radia: They've said no. So there's nobody unless... until he is going to talk to QTel… is in trouble because they are looking at restructuring.
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Ratan Tata: You have talked to Siva?
Niira Radia: Talked to?
Ratan Tata: Siva.
Niira Radia: Yeah, Siva's gone to court, you know, and opposed that 25th date.
Ratan Tata: You told me that.
Niira Radia: Yeah, so now what Raja told me was that he was going to give him his licence without spectrum.
Ratan Tata: (Laughs)
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Niira Radia: So they are filing an application.
Ratan Tata: Go to court again and say that he didn't get Spectrum.
Niira Radia: Yes, but there is no spectrum available and that's what they've submitted. I know that unless the court can order release of spectrum from Defence and all of us benefit.
Niira Radia: It's not going to happen, you know, until… you know, that's not going to happen.
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Niira Radia: Yeah, I met Raja today. I went to see him today and he is alright. He is a happy man. The Chief Justice has given his clearance on him and he's happy. He's really happy with that. I told him the letter's coming to you…that KK's letter, you know. But he couldn't understand why is it a letter and why can't I bring the cheque to him. I said ‘I can't do that because there is a process to it and you have to understand.' Raja is like, you know, he is always all over the place.
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Ratan Tata: Does he know that the other guy is gunning for him?
Niira Radia: Yeah. He is fully aware. He told me he said he needs help in the media. So I promised him I'll help him. I'm helping him Ratan wherever I can, but the thing is that every time you try and help him, he goes and makes stupid statements, you know.
Ratan Tata: Yeah, yeah.
Niira Radia: So you don't know what to do with him, you know. I told him just learn to keep quiet and keep his head down. As far as the media is concerned. He can't resist talking to the media, and then he just says everything, you know. He is saying. The latest rumour is that him and Kanimozhi are having an affair which is actually not true.
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Ratan Tata: Who?
Niira Radia: His latest thing is that he and Kanimozhi are having an affair.
Ratan Tata: Whose latest thing?
Niira Radia: The latest rumour in Delhi.
Ratan Tata: Oh I see.
Niira Radia: That Raja and Kanimozhi are having an affair, which is not true.
Ratan Tata: Yeah, but spread by who?
Niira Radia: By who else, Maran, but that's because Raja, whenever the media comes to meet him or anybody comes to meet him, he keeps on telling them how much of a soft corner he has for Kani, and every time he talks about her, as dark as he is, he still blushes.
Ratan Tata: (Laughs)
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Niira Radia: He gives away the sign that he probably has a crush on her and she has got zero interest in him. Everybody then puts two and two together and gossips. You have this really weird man and he can't understand why his wife is going to beat him up. He's telling me today, ‘What do I do with all of these people, to all these rumours?' And I told him, ‘Don't talk to people about you have this soft corner for Kanimozhi,' and that ‘You have to protect her.' And I said to him, ‘You know, you actually blush.' He said, ‘You can't make out I am blushing.' I said, ‘I'm sorry, but look at your eyes.' Anyway, he can't hide the fact that he's got a crush on her. And Kani says to me, ‘Oh God help me Niira, keep me away from this man.' It is quite funny.
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Niira Radia: On the lighter side of Delhi, Ratan. But then for the madness that I hate being here. So these are the lighter moments of life. I'm back in Bombay from Friday. And I'm there all of next week.
Ratan Tata: Okay, so we'll get together.
Niira Radia: Yeah, I'm going to be there the whole of next week....You take care. Are you going off from London tomorrow, then you're travelling to the US?
Ratan Tata: No, I'm coming back!
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Niira Radia: You're coming back. Okay, I don't know why…
Ratan Tata: I am coming back. Thursday morning.
Niira Radia: Thursday morning.
Ratan Tata: I'm sorry. I'm leaving Thursday morning and I'll be back Thursday night.
Niira Radia: Okay, so I'm back in Bombay on Friday.
Ratan Tata: Okay.
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Niira Radia: Good. I'm thinking delivery of my new Jaguar on Saturday.
Ratan Tata: Oh, is that so?
Niira Radia: Yes.
Ratan Tata: Good, good.
Niira Radia: Can't wait. (laughs) (inaudible) I am thrilled with it
Ratan Tata: Good.
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Niira Radia: Yeah. So Mutthu is fine. Ravi's ... Oh by the way, did Sanjay tell you that he's trying for the 140 as well?
Ratan Tata: Yes, he did.
Niira Radia: Yeah, he's gonna do that. He said me just give me time. He's gonna do that.
Ratan Tata: Yeah
Niira Radia: He is a very "Indian English" speaking gentleman (laughs).
Ratan Tata: (Laughs)
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Niira Radia: I am sure you found that from his accent, naa?
Ratan Tata: He sounded like I was speaking to somebody from ...Mittal's Chambers [?]
Niira Radia: He's very much like that. Yeah.
Niira Radia: Quite a weird fellow...
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Niira Radia: Anyway. I am glad. I hope some of our... you know I hope the bad times are behind us.
Ratan Tata: I hope so. Anyway, let's see.
Niira Radia: I am sure they are...
Ratan Tata: Ok.
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Niira Radia: Alright, have a good flight, and hope you take off soon.
Ratan Tata: I hope so too.
Niira Radia: OK, see you, bye.

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Jaideep Bose: Hello?
Niira Radia: Hi
Jaideep Bose: Hi.
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Niira Radia: He has got it.
Jaideep Bose: Sorry?
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Niira Radia: He has.. between you and me..
Jaideep Bose: Okay.
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Niira Radia: Off the record (Laughs). He has received the request.
Jaideep Bose: Okay.
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Niira Radia: Jadhav had met him.
jaideep Bose: Sorry?
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Niira Radia: Jadhav.. the MD?
Jaideep Bose: Yeah, yeah.
Niira Radia: Recently he had met him. But he has not made up his mind whether he wants to do it. Too committed no?
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Jaideep Bose: Yeah I think it will be a bad job to do.
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Niira Radia: Huh?
Jaideep Bose: Yeah.
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Jaideep Bose: No it is.. because I don't know how much.. you know.. I don't know if anyone can you know..
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Jaideep Bose: I think it's too much..
Niira Radia: Between you and me.. I mean that's effective that I know. And you know that the whole intention of Praful Patel was to asset-strip the airline.
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Jaideep Bose: Yeah.
Niira Radia: (Inaudible)
jaideep Bose: Sorry?
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Niira Radia: It's not going to happen now because the financial crisis has hit.(Disturbances). And you know they won't .. sort of take..
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Niira Radia: I don't know between you and me I don't think he's going to take it. He's told me.. I told him you like (inaudible)..
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Jaideep Bose: Very honestly, in his place I wouldn't take it.
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Niira Radia: No. no, he is not at all in the mood to do it.
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Jaideep Bose: Because, Praful Patel will now (?) very hard to...
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Jaideep Bose: They have handed over the aviation business too.
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Niira Radia: He is destroyed. He's sold his bilaterals. (Disturbance)..Emirates...
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Jaideep Bose: I've heard $3,500. How much have you heard?
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Niira Radia: No, no.. you know, whenever you do a bilateral.. you know how we kick back Sedan(?).. is that you pay per seat.
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Jaideep Bose: Yeah. I heard $3,500 per seat.
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Niira Radia: No. no. Actual weight is about $25 pear seat.
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Niira Radia: $7-$28 but that is aiming...with this guy in Delhi...he's been...
Jaideep Bose: Ramesh Nambiar.
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Niira Radia: Yeah and Talwar was involved in it.
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Niira Radia: And these guys have raked in about 3-4 hundred million dollars in bilaterals.
Jaideep Bose: Hmm..
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Niira Radia: And that's only on Gulf sites....(inaudible)
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Jaideep Bose: You're breaking up, I can't hear you.
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Niira Radia: ...Singapore Airlines came to me and said they wanted huge amounts of money for bilaterals. And I refused to..
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Jaideep Bose: Who.. who came to you?
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Niira Radia: Singapore Airlines. They used to be my client before. So they used to do a lot of briefing of their aircraft in the African market. So he said.. they said that they want to do it. They didn't take any extra flights from them.
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Niira Radia: But they had a going way. So there was this tarrif card that was running in the ministry for five years. And I don't think that they would do it. I told him that you carry the story he said yeah there is no problem.
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Niira Radia: No comments from our side. But between you and me you can probably say that he is probably not going to take it.
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Jaideep Bose: Can I say people who know him don't believe you would keep such an assignment?
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Niira Radia: Yeah, maybe you can say that.
Jaideep: Huh?
Niira Radia: Yeah.
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Jaideep Bose: See, the thing is, he can try before such an assignment.
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Niira Radia: You know I think he is pretty cut up about it. You could see them all get involved in this whole Boeing deal with this guy Sedan.
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Niira Radia: He doesn't know what he has to unravel.. so there have been huge amounts of kickbacks that have taken place.. and all this takes up processes and all that.. in no way Ratan's gonna try... you know they're gonna use him to try and clean up the mess that they have made.. and the Prime Minister is really going for them now.
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Jaideep Bose: Hmm.. yeah I know, I actually.. I have seen a huge change in his body language in the last month.
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Jaideep Bose: Earlier he used to be very cocky. But last one month he is looking.. quite nervous. I think Manmohan Singh must have set himself.
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Jaideep Bose: And.. because 2-3 weeks ago he was very, very nervous. But he raped the airlines. Raped it.
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Niira Radia: Yeah because their whole intention was to take over the ground handling, to take over the MRO what we call Maintainence Repair and Overall services.
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JB: Hmm
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Niira Radia: And the whole intention was to asset-strip so that they could give it to Vijay Mallya and Naresh. And then just finish off the airline. Bilateral was given off in any case so you had made this airline a regional airline already.
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Niira Radia: And it was no longer a longhaul. And all those assets would have been transferred over.
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Niira Radia: And you know, Jojo, everytime you book a slot for an airline, with the manufacturer- that slot itself for your production line, actually carries the value.
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Niira Radia: So you can actually go and tell Air India that Jet wanted a slot.. so Jet could pay $5 million towards slot manufacturing you know..
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Niira Radia: so its a huge money making market..
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jaideep Bose: Someone kind of worked.. give me a (?)..
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JB: something about.. some 15-18,000 crores.
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JB: Over the last 5 years.. Praful Patel.. I don't know if its more or less.. and I don't know whether...
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JB: someone in the airline business
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Niira Radia: What.. in terms of kickbacks?
Jaideep Bose: Yeah.. through bilateral.. even stuff which.. actually Air India has been forced to give up a lot of space at ... transferred to Indigo...no not Indigo... Ya Indigo.
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Niira Radia: Indigo yeah.. Indigo has got Praful in it no?
Jaideep Bose: Yeah?
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Niira Radia: Yeah Praful is a silent partner in Rahul's company or Bhatia's company.
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Niira Radia: He is very much there.
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Niira Radia: I mean I know because you know Jojo I was trying to get that myself in terms of starting an airline... and he told me that very clearly- don't do this because Dawood's(?) going to come in and I mean.. the sort of kickbacks they asked from me for getting the license, I said, go to hell. I'm not gonna give you anything.
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Niira Radia: So, at the end of the day.. I won't say its 15-18,000 crores. But I said keeping that they have made 7-10,000 crores..
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Jaideep Bose: Bilateral aircraft buying..
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Niira Radia: Ground handling?
JB: (inaudible)
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Niira Radia: Spares? Engine?
Jaideep Bose: Someone very senior in the airline business kind of made this...
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JB: This was several months ago, so I don't remember the number exactly. I remember it being in the vicinity of 15-16 crores.
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Niira Radia: You are probably right. They also gave.. you know they removed Sunil Arora from that position because Sunil had actually exposed them and sent a huge dossier to the cabinet secretary and the Prime Minister- as to what had actually gone wrong in the airline deal.
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Niira Radia: Actually I have got that document. I'll send it to you.
Jaideep Bose: Yeah?
Niira Radia: Hmm.. I have got the whole dossier.
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Jaideep Bose: No.. he also sent it to Sonia Gandhi I think.
Niira Radia: Yes he did.
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Niira Radia: He had exposed the whole thing and in fact all the minutes of the meetings are in there... where he was forced to take his hand and he had got them to sign off on those minutes.
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Niira Radia: That's when they threw him out. And after that they tried to file some CBI cases against him. And CBI declared that there was nothing against Sunil Arora. In fact if there's anybody who can turn this airline around, you should bring him back.
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Jaideep Bose: Yeah I've heard very good things about him.. I met him just a couple of times. Even in Air India they say very good things about him.
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Niira Radia: Yeah he is remarkable. He really was a good officer. He's got Indian Airlines into profit. He was quite good so.. they did a lot of injustice to him.
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Niira Radia: And Praful wanted him out because he won't cut deals so.. and then this whole deal.. so he wrote this... you know when the deal was going on, he sent this whole dossier to Sonia Gandhi.. and then Sharad Pawar of course used his influence and made sure that he was removed.
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Niira Radia: What a scam huh! It all comes home to roost na?
Jaideep Bose: But with somebody else .. not necessarily for the one who did it, na.
(sighs)
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Niira Radia: Hmm?
Jaideep Bose: Its comes home to roost other people, not necessarily for the person who contributed it.
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Niira Radia: No I don't know you know.. at the end of the day I don't know how long they can keep on cheating. I don't know. They have really, really.. I am sorry to use the word 'raped' the airline you know. They have killed it.

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Niira Radia: Hello..
Ganapathy: Hi..
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Niira Radia: Hello.
Ganapathy: Hello?
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Niira Radia: Hi..
Ganapathy: Hi.. your voice.. voice is very faint.
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Niira Radia: Oh God.. you know I..
Ganapathy: You're not well or something?
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Niira Radia: No no, I'm fine. I'm just little.. you know..
Ganapathy: Tired?
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Niira Radia: How did it go? Tell me.
Ganapathy: Yeah.. so far it.. Rohini came back and told me about this GVK letter and all that.
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Ganapathy: So.. I have helped her do a story on how these power units are complaining.. how they have a major problem with the Bombay High Court order.
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Ganapathy: How they want to.. the government to intervene and all that.. but there is a lot of fights going on.. obviously the friends are mounting a lot of pressure.
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Ganapathy: You would have seen that statement <i>na</i>.. by that lawyer.. whatever..
Niira Radia: Mukul..
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Ganapathy: <i>Haan</i>, in the morning saying they will.. now should be allowed to sell the gas and all that.
Niira Radia: Because I don't have Hathway or don't have those things.. (inaudible) sure what they said...so, what's being said?
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Ganapathy: See, he said that after the court admitted the..
Niira radia: The trading part.. I got that.. what news are you carrying at 8 o'clock?
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Ganapathy: Yeah, that's right. We have just said that they.. they now say they should be allowed to sell.. they are saying that delay in setting out the path because of the lack of supplies.. and therefore they should now be allowed to sell.
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Ganapathy: They are saying they are also doing the same so why should we not allowed (sic) to do the same?
Niira Radia: I saw that yeah. What happened to the GVK letter?
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Ganapathy: That is separately done you know. That is a separate story. So we have kept that. That would be given much more prominence. So, there is a hell of a lot of push and pull going on - major fights.
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Niira Radia: How can there be a fight when the GVK letter and everything is on reecord and all that? They can - They can't block it.
Ganapathy: No, no can't you see the obvious design in the way RNRL is going about projecting its case? How they want to sell gas.. this, that.. blah blah..
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Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah absolutely ! They are never gonna get that you know Ganu... they are never gonna get that - there will be hue and cry and they will continue to do that.
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Niira Radia: That's what. The GVK story - did it come out well?
Ganapathy: Yeah, yeah. Made it much, much better. But apart from GVK it also mentions GMR.
Niira Radia: Tata Power.
Ganapathy: Yeah, Tata Power, torrents.
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Niira Radia: Okay.
Ganapathy: So.. that would make the case stronger. Then fertilizer appropriation also.
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Niira Radia: And did they have a reaction, the other sides?
Ganapaathy: Uhh... no.
Niira Radia: Hmm..
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Ganapathy: Obviously not.
Niira Radia: And this got carried- what- 8,9 and 10' o clock is it?
Ganapathy: Yeah, yeah.
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Niira Radia: I was told that you know the lead story - is it true?
Ganapathy: No, not in the paper.
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Niira Radia: Tomorrow it's not a lead story?
Ganapathy: No, no, not in the paper.
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Niira Radia: Why?
Ganapathy: Because they are carrying a lot of other things. They have Pranab Mukherjee's <i>bhashan</i> (speech) today.
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Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i>..
Ganapathy: And then then something about the.. companies.. the free flows. The public holding in companies that should.. should have that minimum level that they are going to implement from December onwards.
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Ganapathy: So, those are the things which have been.. today there was also Finance Secretary meeting with Deputy General. Then.. apart from Finance Minister and then a lot of other things they have said about the establishment blah blah..
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Niira Radia: So what you are saying is that the GVK story is not the front page tomorrow?
Ganapathy: Yeah trying but it's not the big one.
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Niira Radia: I told her very clearly and she had a word with both Andy and Rahul. So she indicated and she said she had a word with you as well. But that would be the lead story and that would be the front page because I told her.. I mean if you do that otherwise I'm not going to give you another letter.
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Niira Radia: And now you might as well give it to HT then... who are willing to give me a front page. I mean Nayantara was asking me on CNBC that.. like big time saying Mint will carry it front page.. as the deal that they have got.. And Subukumar himself called me and said give it to me and I'll do it you know..
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Ganapathy: But is it one way flow or two way flow? Is it that only CNBC carries the Mint news or does Mint also carry the CNBC news?
Niira Radia: Both.
Ganapathy: Okay..
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Niira Radia: They have a tie up and in fact Subukumar called me in the afternoon after that.. he said Niira why don't you give me this GVK? I'll do it.. I'll make sure that if Nayantara carries it on CNBC, I'll give it front page tomorrow on Mint. (Inaudible)
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Niira Radia: I would have got it on HT also. Sanjoy Narayan was hell bent on getting it.
Ganapathy: Sanjoy is .. who said these?
Niira Radia: No no, Shobana has stepped in.
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Niira Radia: Shobana has clearly stepped in and told them, 'Nothing doing on this one.'
Ganapathy: Oh, I see.
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Niira Radia: Nothing doing.. that's very, very clear... that's a bit of an unfortunate thing because.. no point giving.. then that will be a problem <i>na</i>.. so you tell them..
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Ganapathy: No, no I have already spoken to them. So now Rahul and others are finding a way how to do it. I am pretty sure they must be getting hundreds of phone calls from you know the..
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Niira Radia: No, but Ravi has promised me that if he intervenes on Tony.. by Tony's say so tomorrow.. if he intervenes.. then I have told him very clearly.. I said I had a long chat with Jojo today almost for about half an hour on this issue and I have explained to him and I have told Ravi also today..
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Niira Radia: I said, look you know, we are in a fight and you know, we have set an expectation. And if you go by a set until then fine. Then we'll draw the line.
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Ganapathy: I have introduced the element of natural resource in that. They all want to make sure that the natural resource is distributed in line with the allocation policy and not in line with anything else.
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Ganapathy: So that will be forming an integral part of the..
Niira Radia: <i>Ganu tum thoda dekh lo isko, abhi bhi time hai na</i> (Ganu take a look at this, there is still time right?)
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Ganapathy: Yeah yeah they are still working on it. I have told my key person. I will speak to them again. My only worry is that.. I have a feeling that it's going to get permanance in Mumbai but not so much in Delhi.
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Niira Radia: That will not be good.
Ganapathy: But anyway, so I will work on that.. speak to them again. But if you need to tell anybody, remind anybody - you can do that.
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Niira Radia: You think I should do that?
Ganapathy: Yeah yeah, one reminder nothing... no harm.
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Niira Radia: Then they'll know that I know.. I'm keeping an eye.
Ganapathy: In that case then leave it to me. I'll speak to these guys.
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Niira Radia: What about the Andhra government letter Ganu? Because I have that. I didn't give it to her today intentionally. I didn't want to give it to her. But that's a big letter.
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Ganapathy: I think let's take that up separately.
Niira Radia: No, no that I'll give you only now.
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Niira Radia: <i>Yeh bhi maine isko diya</i> (I gave this too to her).. because you told me to give it to her.
Ganapathy: Yeah yeah .. I wanted government extentions because she told me that she has spoken to people in our office and they were okay with this idea.
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Ganapathy: After that I said okay fine. In that case, we should let it go if it's getting comment, we should get it. But that was my find. Anyway I'll check out the man and in the next half an hour I'll call these people and speak to them. And then work it out.
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Niira Radia: Because today they were trying to spread this whole rumor, that this whole issue is.. that the government has not been served notice, which is not true.
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Ganapathy: What they were trying to say is that the government is not been made party to the case.. it can only be a interceptor not a respondent or something like that.
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Niira Radia: Correct, correct yeah. But that's not true, right? They are an intervenor and respondent both. Intervenor on their side, respondent from our side.
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Ganapathy: This is the RNRL story.
Niira Radia: Yeah yeah.. it's coming?
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Ganapathy: That was there <i>na</i> earlier.. during the day Supriya had taken all this <i>na</i>? Saying whatever they said... about the lawyer saying that they should be allowed to tell and how.. that the government is not a respondent and what the intervenor.. blah blah.. and all that..
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Niira Radia: If she is carrying that story then it will be allowed because then they'll have a problem. Supriya's written that story <i>na</i>?
Ganapathy: Yeah yeah.
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Niira Radia: Well, let us see how it goes.
Ganapathy: Maybe ask somebody to give a call to Bodhi or somebody?
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Ganapathy: I think because today he was working a little late maybe somebody can give him a point.
Niira Radia: I'll tell him what? That I know that's its not coming on Sunday?
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Ganapathy: No, no don't say that. You should .. I think first you should ask somebody else to speak just to say that they shouldn't give too much importance to all that.. lies spread vice.. you know I'm saying that government is not a respondent etc.. so.. that should be fine.
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Ganapathy: Once that goes down then that comes up whatever the..
Niira Radia: But how prominent is that story compared to this one?
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Ganapathy: Not so much.
Niira Radia: Because this is a big story.
Ganapathy: Of course, of course.
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Niira Radia: You know Ganu I just want to know whether you wanted me to give it to Rohini which is why I gave it to her.. I am not interested in working with her. Because I know you and I don't know why I have to work with her.
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Ganapathy: Let me.. that we will.. let me see how consistent she is .. then given all that we will..
Niira Radia: No I am under the impression that she is working under your supervision.
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Ganapathy: Yeah, of course.
Niira Radia: Because she is a bit of a loudmouth. Yeah so you know I'd much rather work with you and understand from you what you want and work it that way I mean..
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Ganapathy: First I wanted to read that copy you know... before that I am fully aware of the background and stuff..
Niira Radia: Which copy? this SMC?
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Ganapathy: <i>Haan haan</i>.
Niira Radia: <i>Tumko mila nahin kya</i>? (You didn't receive it or what Ganu?) I am surprised. Rohit said he had sent it to you. To the studio. It's come in a hard copy, it's come in an envelope to you.
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Ganapathy: In my office?
Niira Radia: Yeah.
Ganapathy: No it's not. If it had been so then Rohit would have told me on phone that <i>koi aa raha hai </i> (someone is coming).. or whatever.
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Niira Radia: Okay then I better tell Cecilia to send it herself tomorrow.
Ganapathy: Yeah yeah sure. If there is a problem it can be sent to my residence.
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Niira Radia: Yeah yeah I'll make sure it gets sent to you straigtaway tomorrow.
Ganapathy: Sure sure.. because..
Niira Radia: I told him very clearly to send it to you and he said I sent it, he confirmed to me I sent it, it's gone to ET Now.
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Niira Radia: Oh God.. okay tomorrow Manoj Modi is meeting MC Venu .. this one .. TK Arun.. maybe. I am setting up a separate time for you and Supriya also .. for you, not Supriya.. you have to tell me who you want to bring from ET Now..
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Ganapathy: Okay fine.
Niira Radia: Yeah?
Ganapathy: Yeah yeah sure.
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Niira Radia: Who would you like to bring because you are the Chief of Bureau here.. so who would you like to bring?
Ganapathy: Is it also going to be tomorrow?
Niira Radia: <i>Nahi nahin </i>(No, no) on Thursday.
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Ganapathy: What time will we meet, roughly?
Niira Radia: I am hoping in the afternoon at about 3 o'clock.
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Ganapathy: Sure, sure. Let me find out tomorrow and tell you how it can work out..
Niira Radia: Because the ET Now bureau in Bombay will be briefed <i>haan</i>. So I don't want them to be briefed and you are not briefed.
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Ganapathy: Yeah I know.
Niira Radia: I'm gonna do that. So I'm gonna put that in the schedule tomorrow or day after.
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Ganapathy: Okay. So what I will now do is.. in the next 15-20 minutes I will quickly speak to the people concerned.
Niira Radia: Call me back and let me look at the itinerary of Manoj Modi in the meantime...and just see which timings I can slot you.. because you have to tell me who you want to bring along with you.
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Ganapathy: Sure sure..
Niira Radia: It's completely off the record. And I'll be at the Chambers.
Ganapathy: Of course, of course, without a doubt.
Niira Radia: And it'll be at the Chambers.
Ganapathy: Ok fine, now I'll -
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Vir Sanghvi: Hi Niira.
Niira Radia: Vir, just one thing, you know, explain to him...
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Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.
Niira Radia: ...that when they send their list of five cabinet ministers, they had sent Maran for Railways...
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira Radia: They had sent Surface Transportation for Baalu...
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira Radia: ...Telecom for Raja.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira Radia: ...Health for Kanni...
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira Radia: ...Power for Baalu, Power for Baalu.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira Radia: And Surface for Azhagiri...
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira Radia: ...knowing because, because Karunanidhi was under pressure from his family...
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Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.
Niira Radia: ...knowing Power and Railways would never be accepted.
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Vir Sanghvi: That's right.
Niira Radia: Both people would have been dropped.
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Vir Sanghvi: Oh, I see.
Niira Radia: And he says, you know, this whole, because he doesn't know how to explain the man, you know, old...
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Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.
Niira Radia: ...but actually and then they could have got away with two with Azhagiri and Raja and Kanni would have happily accepted MoS as independent.
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Vir Sanghvi: That's right. Yeah, yeah. So, basically its Maran, no?
Niira Radia: Yeah. So, the moment you drop him you solved your problem.
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Vir Sanghvi: Who are they dealing with?
Niira Radia: They are dealing with Maran, Congress is talking to Maran.
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Vir Sanghvi: No. But who in the Congress?
Niira Radia: I believe various people, I know he is in touch with Ahmed Patel, he is in touch with Ghulam Nabi Azad.
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Vir Sanghvi: Okay.
Niira Radia: But Ghulam Nabi Azad doesn't like him.
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Vir Sanghvi: No. Even Ahmed doesn't like him. Nobody likes him.
Niira Radia: So - yeah, but I think we just need to - seriously there is only one route, talk to the daughter, she will take you to him...

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Niira Radia: Hello Manoj.
Manoj: Yeah Niira.
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Niira Radia: You need to call Bodhi because I understand from Ganapathy that the other side has pushed this whole issue of Supreme Court putting a stay on our thing...not putting a stay on our thing...RNRL and that the - government has not been issued a notice, government's an intervene-r and all that.
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Niira Radia: So he says, Bodhi's still working late. So maybe somebody should...I don't want to call Bodhi but you should send him an SMS and say 'Can I call you?'. Because I understand that this whole thing is going on which is incorrect.
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Niira Radia: But you need to pick up the phone and call him actually. Don't tell him that you know what's.. tell him that this is the feedback that we're getting...so we would like to know whether you know...I am calling everyone because this is what they have been telling everybody..
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Niira Radia: And we've even heard from PTI...that's what they are doing currently.
Manoj: Good.
Niira Radia: Can you do it?
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Manoj: You want me to do that?
Niira Radia: I think you should send him an SMS atleast and tell him that I want to understand this.
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Niira Radia: PTI tells us that that's what happened. So please tell us this. But <i>kya hua tumne mujhe presentation bhej diya hai?</i> (What happened, did you send me the presentation?)
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Manoj: <i>Haan, haan</i> (Yes yes).
Niira Radia: Okay. And tomorrow you will be there at 12-12.30?
Manoj: 12.30, yeah.
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Niira Radia: I'll tell Manoj Modi that I will be there at quarter past 11. I will come there at quarter past 12.
Manoj: Okay fine.
Niira Radia: And I will meet up with him and all that..
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Niira Radia: So you'll ...(inaudible) so you're co-ordinating with Ranjini <i>na</i>?
Manoj: Haan.
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Niira Radia: Only thing is that PCA <i>ka</i>...(inaudible)
Manoj: Sorry?
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Niira Radia: PCA Srinivasan <i>ka agar fix nahin hua</i> (If Srinivasan doesn't get fixed).. then I'm gonna put Ganu there. ET now is critical for briefing.. Ganu and all these guys.
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai,</i> okay.
Niira Radia: (Inaudible)
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Manoj: I didn't see it but I have asked somebody to see it: it's come out well.
Niira Radia: Come out well <i>na</i>?
Manoj: Yeah, yeah.
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Niira Radia: Okay, I just hope that the story tomorrow is front page because he nearly gave me a shock by saying that they are trying to put it on their third page or something...
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Manoj: Who Ganu?
Niira Radia:<i> Haan</i>, Ganu told me last night...he is working on this right now.
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Manoj: Okay.
Niira Radia: But I sent Rohini a message saying that it better be front page otherwise forget it.
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Manoj: I have sent Bodhi a message right now.
Niira Radia: Okay. Rakesh Hari Pathak is confirmed at 6 o'clock with Rajdeep day after. He doesn't know Manoj Modi is there. He is told you and I are going.
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Manoj: Okay fine. You can always say Manoj. When I mentioned Manoj...it was Manoj Modi I was talking about..
Niira Radia: (Inaudible, in Hindi, roughly: Let's see the reaction, what it will be.)
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Manoj: <i>Nahin but aapne</i> Manoj Modi <i>bola kya usko?</i> (No but did you tell him Manoj Modi?)
Niira Radia: <i>Haan maine usko bola</i> (Yes I told him)
Manoj: <i>Accha theek hain</i> (Okay fine)
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Manoj: Yeah I will keep you posted if Bodhi responds to me.
Niira Radia: Where are you staying? I hope you are staying at the Taj only <i>na</i>?
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Manoj: No, no I am staying at the guest house.
Niira Radia: You should have been at Taj, would have been easier for you.
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Manoj: That's okay. Don't worry.
Niira Radia: Okay so don't forget to be in early tomorrow <i>na</i>?
Manoj: Yeah don't worry.
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Niira Radia: Anjali is going to be there with you. She is okay with the presentation?
Manoj: He called me up, he said he is going to take some print outs of the presentation and I'll take the copies of the judgment.
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Manoj: He said most of the documents, he has it on his laptop...the one pagers in that sense. So some I have already the print outs.. the others, the backup is there because he got soft copies of the other documents in case they need it.
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Niira Radia: But tell me one thing, you got everything right? Basically?
Manoj: Yeah, yeah.
Niira Radia: Because I don't wanna be missing on anything tomorrow.
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Manoj: No he is saying, out of the blue if some other document that is required, then I have my laptop. And I have soft copies of most of the documents.
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Niira Radia: Okay. But what about ...Prasad <i>ko kuch bataya?</i> (Did you tell Prasad anything?)
Manoj: No. I tried calling him, his line was busy.. then he was going to take off at 8.30.
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Niira Radia: And international media?
Manoj: No nothing till now. I am putting Rohit and Daljeet in the morning to go and meet up with them and solicit Times. So I'll do that.
Niira Radia: (Inaudible)
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Manoj: <i>Ho jayega, teen chaar toh kar hi denge</i> (No atleast 3-4 will be done)
Niira Radia: <i>Toh main 11 o'clock ka slot main Ganapathy ko kar doongi</i> (Then I will allot a slot of 11 o'clock to Ganapathy)
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Manoj: So, Srinivasan?
Niira Radia: Srinivasan <i>kaun hai</i>? (Who is Srinivasan?)
Manoj: TCS Srinivasan Raghavan.
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Niira Radia: (Inaudible) <i>Usko</i> Sunil Jain <i>ko</i< definitely <i>milna hai ha</i> by the way. Nainan <i>mile ya na mile usko</i> Sunil Jain ko milna hai</i>(He wants to meet Sunil Jain definitely by the way.. if he meets Nainan or not he wants to meet Sunil Jain)
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SA: Hello?
NR: Sunil, hi.
SA: <i>Haanji</i>?
NR: I'm sorry, I've been so caught up in my court case <i>na</i>...
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SA: <I>Nahin nahin, koi baat nahin...</i> (No, no problem)
NR: <I>Achha</i> listen, they have approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee...
SA: Yes, I found out...
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NR: Yeah, no, yesterday I spoke to him, he's in Israel right now. He said he's not- I told him I have to send him a note as to what's been going on over the last five years,
SA: hmm
NR: ...and why. But I think he is going to meet the Prime Minister.
SA: hmm
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NR: Because I don't,... He is not going to do it.
SA: hmm
NR: I said because the only reason they are asking you to do this is because they want you to ratify all the deals that they have done. And all the...
SA: That's right, that's right. Exactly
NR: Yeah, so they want credibiliity and all that.
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NR: So he said- I told him I'd speak to you,
SA: hmm
NR: - he said can you ask Sunil to give me a 5-7 page letter
SA: hmm
NR: which spells out what has been going on,
SA: hmm
NR: so that when I meet Prime Minister-
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SA: When is he meeting Prime Minister?
NR: When he comes back. He is meeting him on Saturday. He is coming back on Friday
SA: <i>Haan</i> (Okay)
NR: and he'll take(?) time next week.
SA: <i>Theek hai</i> (Okay)
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NR: So he says if you ask him to send me a note,
SA: hmm
NR: which tells me exactly what's been going on,
SA: hmm
NR: and what is the thing. And I've spoken to him about you.
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NR: Tarun Das is speaking about you, by the way, to Prime Minister, as soon as he comes back from his G8
SA: hmm
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W: <i>Woh maine toh, aaa, sab... de diya usko</i>... (I gave it all to him)
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NR: because Tarun himself has said that I wanted Sunil to become the CII DG.
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NR: So.. uh.. He was he was pretty keen and Baijal <i>ka</i> meeting Friday <i>ko hai</i> D.K. Nair <i>ke saath</i>. (Baijal's meeting with DK Nair is on Friday)
SA: hmm
NR: <I>toh</i>.. the umm.. they’re all.. I think everyone is in agreement now.
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NR: Jojo, ('Jojo' - Jaideep Bose)
SA: hmm
NR: -from Times of India is going to run a complete 2 page story on how they’ve destroyed Air India.
SA: <i>haan</i>
NR: <i>Toh,uske liye</i> (And for that...) he knows you quiet well Jojo,he says he’s met you a few times.
SA: off the head <i>dhyaan nahin hai</i>. (I don't know)
NR: Toh, jojo is telling me- Jojo is the Editor-in-Chief at Times Group na.
SA: No no, I know about him, but
NR: <i>haan</i>
SA: may be once or twice I’ve met. <i>Mujhe</i> off-hand <i>dhyaan nahin hai. haan</i>..
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NR: So he’s going to probably send someone across to you, or if you are going to be in Delhi. now, He’s in Bombay though.
S: <i>haan</i>
NR: so who ever is going to write that story, whichever journalist is going to do it.... But they’re going to do a massive thing as to how Air India has been raped. They’re...
SA: hmm
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SA: So When i write for Mr. Ratan Tata,
NR: hmm
SA: do I also mention that uh.. I mean it is note from him. But do I also mention one third person that it is understood that..., there are 2 major issues now- Out 5-6 major issues there 2 issues a) Air India Express.
NR: hmm
SA: On Air India Express, as a Board member, I had raised a series of issues. Officially.
NR: hmm
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SA: So can I just write the sentence like,- “one of the board members has brought these things to.. the discussion...board”- or what..? I would not like to show that much, this thing.
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NR: No I think you should put it down. I think you should write him a note that you’re writing to, uh,... is that he will read and he will then translate in whichever way he wants to translate and send it.
SA: Hmm
NR: You understand na.
SA: <i>Haan haan. Theek hai…Theek hai</i>.
NR: Thats the way it will be.
SA: <i>haan</i>.
NR: yeah.
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SA: Bilateral <i>toh</i> I will have to check the recent information.
NR: Bilateral, <i>woh woh woh</i>.. airline deals, the aircraft deals… all that.
SA: Yeah yeah 5-6 things na. One is aircraft deal,
NR: hmm
SA: other is bilateral. Other is Air India Express.
NR: hmm
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SA: Other is …this sale and lease back of aircraft. On sale and lease back of aircraft again, it all happened after I left.
NR: hmm.
SA: So I would only, I would also know…sketchy details... but I’ll kind of, try to take assistance of one or two people… who have retired. I know one who has retired who is in touch with me… he used to be in planning.. Though I’ll not tell him the purpose ofcourse.
NR: hmm
SA: Hmm
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SA: Vijay Kumar used to be in planning.
NR: hmm
SA: That too planning- and he was dealing with these things and he had been putting up small-small notes. Anyway, I’ll make it. Because obviously, he’ll meet him only when Prime Minister returns from Italy.
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NR: And I also want to offline give him the details <i>joh tumne bheji thi na, pura</i> dossier.
SA: hmm
NR: <i>Woh toh main doongi na usko</i>.
SA: That’s my letter to Cabinet Secretary
NR: For his own information na.
SA: Eh? No, that i can give you yeah, with you I have no issues.
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SA: The issue is that it remains with him, and he destroys it after reading it.
NR: Hmm?!
SA: My letter to Cabinet Secretary,
NR: hmm
SA: he can read and then destroy it.
NR: <i>Haan</i>, I’ll have to give it to him and he’ll destroy it. Naturally, he’s not going to.. He needs to have a background <i>ke</i> what the hell are they asking him to do na.
SA: <i>Haan</i>, then I’ll send the letter. I have the letter
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NR: You tell me when everything is done, I’ll send someone to pick it up.
SA: <i>Haan</i>.
NR: I also need, separately, ((SMS alert tone)) in your own words.. for Tarun Das.
SA: in?
NR: for Tarun Das.
SA: <i>haan</i>
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NR: For Tarun Das, in your own words, what do you think needs to be done,
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NR: but no why should you tell them what should be done, otherwise they will use what has to be done and give it for your benefit na.
SA: <i>haan</i>.
NR: hmm
SA: That's not that good. I mean that toh… you want me to give that?
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NR: <i>Accha dekho</i> Sunil <i>mujhe ek kaam zaroor hai, ke</i>, you have to -in fact Tarun Das has sent me a sms just now, which I’m just seeing now, which has come on my other phone.
SA: hmm
NR: He wants me to call him urgently. So it must be about this only.
SA: hmm
NR: Let me call him and call you back.
SA: ok.
NR: ok.

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Tarun Das: Hi.
Niira Radia: Good morning, how are you?
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Tarun Das: Are you in your favourite Bombay?
Niira Radia: No, no, I'm in Delhi... Supreme Court matter.. I came back over the weekend.
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Tarun Das: Okay, good.
Niira Radia: Yeah yeah I mean.. I spoke to (?) last night about this whole being invited that Jadhav had met him.. I told Ratan I said don't do it. Seriously yeah yeah he shouldn't do it because they want him to ratify all the deals that they have done <i>na</i>..
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Tarun Das: He shouldn't do it. I was surprised to see this.
Niira Radia: No no, they've asked him .. Jadhav approached him and Patel.. in fact if I were you I would also send him a notej. You should because Tarun, they want him to ratify all the...
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Niira Radia: There have been huge kickbacks in Air India you know what's been going on... yeah.. what they're donna do is, they're gonna bring him there, they're gonna try and make him ratify those deals. And make them look cleaner than everything.. he shouldn't do it. There's enough on his own plate.
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Tarun Das: Has he already agreed?
Niira Radia: No, he's not.
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Niira Radia: I told him. I said what are you gonna do? He said Niira send me the note on what's been going on so then when I write, I'll write in substance but then I told him.. I said I'm gonna say no comment for now.
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Niira Radia: And.. but Jojo called me yesterday from Bombay.. he said Niira this has happened.. is it true? And I said yeah.. he's got an invite but he hasn't accepted as yet. He's not gonna do it.
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Niira Radia: In fact I really think I need to bring Sunil Arora in there.
Tarun Das: You know when Ratan was chairman of Air India, appointed by Rajeev Gandhi, I was on his board.
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Tarun Das: Which was so traumatic.. getting anything done.. and nothing has changed. In fact it has deteriorated. And you know Praful plays big games. So, he won't have a free hand. It's an advisory committee. It's just whitewash.
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Niira Radia: It's a whitewash and they want him to do this only to...and why should...it's different if the Prime Minister would have invited Ratan.
Tarun Das: Absolutely.
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Tarun Das: And you know, it's like the Satyam Board. I'll give you the difference. Prime Minister personally called, personally: please come, please help, please solve. And I am with you, you are reporting to me. In my absence you're reporting to the acting Prime Minister Pranab Mukherjee. It's like that.
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Tarun Das: It's not dealing with any Minister, we're not dealing with PC Gupta. So I don't think this has.. this in fact what will happen is.. Praful will do a whitewash and show the Prime Minister.. you see I'm doing all the right things here.. there Ratan Tata, dream man for you. You have the highest respect for him. I have got him to do it.
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Tarun Das: So many irregularities. Every picture wants Sunil Arora, get him back. I don't know who this Jadhav guy is.
Niira Radia: They need to bring Sunil Arora but you know, Prime Minister has to take that move because Praful will never allow him to come in.
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Niira Radia: They will never allow him. Praful will never... because he knows all the deals no.
Tarun Das: I will talk to PM when he comes back from Europe.
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Niira Radia: Yeah.. but Tarun I'd sent a letter to Ratan <i>haan</i>. Tell him that (inaudible), tell him that the Prime Minister should have invited him. Not some MB of the airline you know.
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Tarun Das: Praful Patel.. and this is all being you know... Prime Minister's office doesn't even know about it. You know what I mean? It's probably, you would read about it in the newspapers, or maybe a message has been sent to him you know saying that they're asking him and all that...and this is what Air India writes.
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Tarun Das: And this will not.. Air India's problems are much deeper. By the way, Air India can be a great airline. It can be.
Niira Radia: But you need (inaudible) get rid of all these guys you know. You need to bring in people who really want to run it.
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Tarun Das: Naresh wants to kill it, Vijay wants to kill it.
Niira Radia: They want to strip assets.
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Tarun Das: Praful is not really interested.
Niira Radia: You know Tarun they have been selling bilaterals. You should see the deals they have been cutting. That airline's coming and telling us this.
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Niira Radia: The ones that did not want to pay. They have made a fortune by selling all those bilaterals. Air India's got no value any longer. It's only got a 14,000 crore debt. I mean it's got no value any longer from that point of view. It really needs very dedicated group of people who really want to turn it around.
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Tarun Das: I agree. I was really surprised to see Ratan's name on the front page you know.
Niira Radia: Yeah.. but it's not.. I mean I have also told him and you should also write to him.
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Tarun Das: I will write to this personal email id.
Niira Radia: Yeah that's right, you should do that.
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Niira Radia: This guy is not there in the afternoon Tarun. He has to go to Chandigarh. So he's saying he can do Friday.
Tarun Das: Yeah sure, Friday is fine.
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Niira Radia: Are you okay with Friday?
Tarun Das: Yeah, Friday is fine. I'm here.
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Niira Radia: I'll go ahead and confirm. If it is Friday then I'll probably come along with you.
Tarun Das: if this thing works out, what will be the deal?
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Niira Radia: The land?
Tarun Das: Yeah.
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Niira Radia: I'll work it out, you don't worry about it. I'll sort it out. You see no, what we can do. Maybe he can give it a massive concession. Rest we'll handle, you don't worry about it Tarun.
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Niira Radia: It's my responsibility to get you 5 acres.
Tarun Das: Okay now what is the issue with Pranoy? What is the background? What do you think?
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Niira Radia: He finally called me and he said no I am sorry I wasn't able to.. you see I've been sending him SMSes and he's not been responding. And I know he's in a lot of financial issues and all that.
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Tarun Das: I know that.
Niira Radia: I know he met Mukesh last week and you know also.. and the thing is that I.. he needs to understand.. I think Pranoy needs to understand that we really, out of everyone.. he is one person we all have a lot of respect for.. especially you and I.. personally I have a lot of respect for him.
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Niira Radia: So whether it is Ratan or.. he always goes to people through the wrong.. he goes through stale or he goes through somebody else. Of course he has gone through Kamath also but he is going through you which is good.. and you are asking him..
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Niira Radia: So he needs to...I thought he - I was under the impression that he was a little upset with me because I didn't give him Ratan on a couple of occasions when he wanted him on air. But I can't do that. I can't send Ratan for awards which he doesn't want to receive you know.
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Niira Radia: So Radhika and Pranoy and all were quite annoyed with me because I didn't do that. I tried to explain this to Pranoy, i said Pranoy do something else which is going to be special and I will promise you he'll be there.
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Niira Radia: I always thought that he is a little irritated with me after that but I sent him another SMS yesterday saying 'Listen Naina I'm trying to reach you.. Manoj Modi is in town, I want you to meet him and talk to him and understand what's going on.'
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Niira Radia: Then he replied back saying that 'Sorry I'm really caught up with the budget but yes please let's meet and all that.' But whenever you do meet him, maybe you can just let him know.. that I only have good words for him... I don't have..
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Niira Radia: You're meeting Sunil today is it?
Tarun Das: No it's got postponed to tomorrow. He called last night. Sharad Pawar has called him at 10.45. So he said can we move it to tomorrow. Fine.. tomorrow.
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Tarun Das: I'm here all this week, fairly easy.
Niira Radia: I've got Manoj Modi to phone (inaudible) today with all this Reliance stuff..
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Tarun Das: Right, right.
Niira Radia: Tomorrow I'm here.. tomorrow I should be there. Friday I'm here.. Friday I'll come with you to the land..
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Niira Radia: When you meet Sunil.. you can tell, Niira told me that you've met and he'll ask you about me.. you can tell him all the bad things. He will probably ask you what you think.
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Tarun Das: Can you arrange a meeting between him and RNJ?
Niira Radia: I've given him a session yesterday on the phone. I said look, you are giving Vir Sanghvi an interview on Friday. I know Ratan's mind.
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Niira Radia: Ratan will meet him but I have to set the stage. Now there's a larger issue of spectrum that you're fighting. Let Vir ask you the question about do you think all these natural resources should priced and you should say yes. Because now you are in favour of that.
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Niira Radia: Then Vir can say that you had said that you know.. when Ratan Tata offered us a price you said you can give it to the Prime Minister's relief fund if he has so much money.
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Niira Radia: And you should say that I should have not said that and I do believe but Ratan was right. You know I said we'll come out not only looking magnanimous, we'll come out looking credible. We'll kill two birds with one stone.
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Niira Radia: And I can then take that CD to Ratan and say look he's even gone on air now. Because that's what Ratan needs. Then he will.. atleast we will have got 50% of it. I know, Ratan, you know, he is very cut up about that statement. So Sunil needs to correct that.
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Niira Radia: I think he will come out looking very good doing it you know.
Tarun: I'll tell him.
Niira Radia: Yeah, so that can help him. And I can always ask Vir to ask that question of him. Yeah?
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Radia: This...um, uh..Anil Ambani's here.
Manoj: <i>Haan</i> [Yes]
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Radia: Media <i>ko bata do</i>. [Inform the media]
Manoj: <i>Theek hai</i>. [Alright]
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Radia: Uh, he's meeting, um... Oh God, who is he meeting? He's meeting..he's (inaudible)...
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Radia: ...Secretary Petroleum 10 45 with Shri Deora not yet confirmed. Secretary Fertilizer 10 15 and 11 30 (inaudible)
Manoj: 11 30?
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Radia: Capsec, Capsec.
Manoj: Ok, <i>theek hai</i>. [Alright]
Radia: Ya? Ok, bye.

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(phone rings)
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Sunil Arora: Hello
Niira Radia: Sunil, hi. Listen, because I have to quickly rush. <i>Woh Tarun mil raha hai Prime Minister ko</i> (Tarun is meeting the Prime Minister)
Sunil Arora: Hmm
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Niira Radia: <i>Wo toh ho raha hai. Mujhe tumhara na, uske liye</i> pointers <i>bhej do Tarun ke liye ...ki</i> (That is happening. I need you to send your pointers for Tarun regarding it) what has been ailing it and what have been the issues including the Unions and all that...
Sunil Arora: Haan (Yes)
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Niira Radia: And for his own benefit. Basically what you sent Ratan, naa?
Sunil Arora: Haan
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Niira Radia: Ki how they have successively, successfully thrived with connivance of Naresh Goyal and Vijay Mallya to destroy the airline.
Sunil Arora: Haan
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Niira Radia: Haan? And what is the gain and all that. <i>Woh Tarun sab samajhta hai yeh baat</i> (Tarun understands all this.)
Sunil Arora: Haan, theek hai. (Yes, alright.)
Niira Radia: So uske benefit ke liye (For his benefit) he is meeting him on Saturday. Meeting confirmed hai.
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Sunil Arora: <i>Haan toh main toh aaj shuru kar doonga, na</i>? (I'll start working on this today, no?)
Niira Radia: Hmm.
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Sunil Arora: You can send somebody in Friday morning
Niira Radia: Ok, <i>tum yeh zaroor kar dena...tumhara thoda sa</i> background, <i>thoda sa tumhara</i> background <i>mujhe de dena</i>, please, <i>haan</i>? (You surely do this. Also send me something of your background please, will you?)
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Sunil Arora: (inaudible) <i>jo aapka so-called CV hai, usme likha hua hai</i> Indian Airline <i>ka kya kiya tha</i> (In that so-called CV of yours, it is written, what was done with Indian Airline)
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Niira Radia: I know, I know, I know. Haan, <i>woh sab mujhe chahiye hoga</i> because <i>maine</i> (Ya, I will be needing all of it because I...)...I've not used uh...you know, with the court case, no time to prepare...
Sunil Arora: Hmm.
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Niira Radia: Haan?
Sunil Arora: OK
Niira Radia: Kar doge na? ( You will do it, no?)
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Sunil Arora: Haan, haan. Main, I'll send you a copy of the CV in which this Airline part is written.
Niira Radia: Haan
Sunil Arora: I will also informally send one note which is slightly long-ish.
Niira Radia: Haan
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Sunil Arora: But, which is, I mean I'll prepare a summary of course definitely.
Niira Radia: Haan
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Sunil Arora: But there is one informal note which I wrote when I left the airline.
Niira Radia: Haan
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Sunil Arora: Addressed to Ajay Prasad, knowing full well that these guys will hound me.
Niira Radia: Haan
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Sunil Arora: Toh I put it all on record, that what all I tried to do and what all is left to be done.
Niira Radia: Haan.
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Sunil Arora: Toh that is slightly long-ish. You can ignore the annexures. The annexures are just this thing. But the body of the note is self-explanatory.
Niira Radia: Haan, haan.
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Sunil Arora: That, that...that I will send you for Mr. Tarun Das as well as for Mr. Tata
Niira Radia: OK
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Sunil Arora: And for Mr. Tata, separately.
Niira Radia: Haan
Sunil Arora: I will also send my letter to Cabinet Secretary
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Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i> Including how, what is it trying to get him to do is to ratify everything that he, that they've done wrong.
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Sunil Arora: Haan, woh mein likh doonga sara. (Yes, I will write it all down.)
Niira Radia: Haan, theek hai? (Ya, ok? ) So I will send somebody to you on Friday, ok?
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Sunil Arora: Toh ye, Saturday ko aap keh rahe hai na mil raha hai woh...mil rahe hain (You're saying they are meeting on Saturday)
Niira Radia: Haan, toh Friday bhejungi na? (Yes, so I'll send someone on Friday, no? )
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Sunil Arora: Toh Friday ko aap bhej dena. (Send someone on Friday.)
Niira Radia: Friday main...
Sunil Arora: [interjects] It seems I have today and tomorrow.
Niira Radia: Haan
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Sunil Arora: I will start working today afternoon because today morning is our so-called state budget and we are all in the assembly
Niira Radia: OK
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Sunil Arora: We’ll be free by about 2:30, 3 o’clock.
Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i>
Sunil Arora: But I’ll start working in the afternoon.
Niira Radia: Theek hai, great...ok
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Sunil Arora: And work till, work tomorrow. I hope they do not call us to the assembly tomorrow for something.
Niira Radia: Haan
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Sunil Arora: Then we have no choice. But I’ll...I’ll rig out something very quickly.
Niira Radia: Ya, I’m not convinced that Sanjeev Shrivastav has...not that he was using some people and all to get messages
Sunil Arora: Who?
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Niira Radia: Sanjeev Shrivastav, you remember?
Sunil Arora: He talked me...huh, that’s the last he talked to me, I told you.
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Niira Radia: No, no, no, no. You remember when earlier he had indicated that he was talking to the family and all that.
Sunil Arora: Hmm.
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Niira Radia: I...in the current context, I would not believe it.
Sunil Arora: Hmm
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Niira Radia: I’m also told he has become persona non grata there right now
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Sunil Arora: Maybe...whatever that evening he told me, I told you. The only thing...
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Niira Radia: <i>Nahin, uski baat mein nahin kar rahi, uski baat mein nahin kar rahi. Main tumhari baat kar rahi hoon jab usne tumhari issue raise kee thee na in logon ke saath</i>. (No, I’m not talking about that, I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about you and that time he raised your issue with these people)
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Sunil Arora: <i>Kin logon ke saath</i>? (With who?) No no, I never told that...I never even asked Shrivastav for that.
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Niira Radia: That was ages ago.
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Sunil Arora: Never, not even once. Shri Shrivastav se maine apne baare mein kabhi baat hee na kee. (I never spoke with Shri Shrivastav about myself) Never.
Niira Radia: You told me once.
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Sunil Arora: No, no, no, no. Not Shri Shrivastav at all. I think there is a mistake here. Shri Shrivastav <i>se toh meri baat hee us din hui hai, che mahine, aath mahine baad. Aur maine pehle bhi past mein kabhi</i> Shri Shrivastav <i>se kaha nahin ki mere baare mein bat kare</i>. (I spoke with Shti Shrivastav then, after 6 or 8 months. And in the past, I never asked Shri Shrivastav to speak about me.)
Niira Radia: Uh huh.
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Sunil Arora: I know he is loud-mouthed in some senses and he is not reliable. Never, Shri Shrivastav, never.
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Niira Radia: Ok, <i>tum bhej dena ye</i> at least. (Ok, you send this over at least.)
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Sunil Arora: <i>Woh toh</i> the last he talked about that...that phone call and all that. That I told you, no?
Niira Radia: Uh huh.
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Sunil Arora: That we talked more than once.
Niira Radia: Haan.
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Sunil Arora: As I was telling you, Shrivastav se aaj tak bhi baat nahin kee mere baare mein kisi se baat karne (To date, I never asked Shrivastav to speak on my behalf with anyone.)
Niira Radia: Haan
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Sunil Arora: Not even, not even once in the last ten years.
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Niira Radia: Toh theek hai. You’ll send it, na? I’ll send somebody on Friday
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Sunil Arora: <i>Haan</i>, Friday <i>ko bhej dena</i>. ( Yes, send him on Friday.)
Niira Radia: Haan ok, ok bye.
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Sunil Arora: <i>Main aapko phir bhi</i> Thursday <i>ko</i> confirm <i>kar doonga</i>. (I’ll still confirm with you on Thursday.)
Niira Radia: Haan, haan.
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Sunil Arora: <i>Aur mujhe aaj din mein Jang ka ek baar</i> sms...(and today once in the day, Jang's SMS)
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Niira Radia: Woh, haan haan haan. Main Cecilia ko kah ke bol doongi. (Yes, yes, yes. I’ll talk to Cecilia about it.) Sorry I’m so caught up in...
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Sunil Arora: Jang <i>ka aur</i> Pradeep Baijal <i>ka</i>.(Jang's and Pradeep Baijal's)
Niira Radia: Will do, will do.
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Sunil Arora: And if possible, just send me this address of Mr. Das also. I’ll send him a card with a letter, that’s all.
Niira Radia: Will do. All three.
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Sunil Arora: Ok, thank you, thank you.
Niira Radia: Ok, bye.

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Ring tone (Pal pal pal...)
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Niira: Hi
Ganu : Hi, so finally...
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Niira: Hello
Ganu : ...everything has come to a stop now.
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Niira: Ganu?
Ganu : <i>Haan</i>(Yes)?
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Niira: <i>Kya hai bhai</i> (What's going on)? (sound resembling key presses on mobile). G-g Ganu?
Ganu : <i>Haan</i>?
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Niira: <i>Kya hua bhai</i>? You people didn't... didn't take care?
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Ganu : No. No, no. We did everything and I mean in fact that turned out to be counter-productive.
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Ganu: First I...they were ok with carrying both the things without front page... little...on the inside, both side by side, with a little window pointer of the front page. So after we spoke and people pointed out that this is a more important story... this that... I think there's some fight that has happened, you know... Delhi versus Bombay... and some and you know everyday there are complaints from both sides. So for, for sometime they're going to now resign from publishing anything on this.
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Niira: I don't think so. Because I was told that TK Arun didn't even know about this story.
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Ganu : TK?
Niira: TK Arun...
Ganu : <i>Haan</i>?
Niira: ...didn't even know. Bodhi hold...held it back.
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Ganu : <i>Na</i>... It was only...It was only with Bodhi. It never went to TK Arun.
Niira: Yea, but it is a... (inaudible) it's a belly story.
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Ganu : Yea... But you know, it doesn't necessarily move like that, <i>na</i>.
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Ganu: There's another person in Bombay, you might be knowing called Shaji.
Niira: Who?
Ganu : Shaji, Shaji.
Niira: Yea.
Ganu : So, it is coordinated by Shaji Vikraman and Bodhi in Bombay.
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Niira: <i>Haan, haan</i>.
Ganu : Otherwise it is coordinated by TK Arun and Javed in Delhi. But this one was... err... specifically at the instruction of Rahul now it is being coordinated from Bombay. And last night since their were so many claims and counter-claims ...and since some of the guys, these guys went and told them after we spoke...
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Niira: Seriously...
Ganu : You know, that how can this be, you know, compared to that. This is far more important and all that.
Niira: Hmmm...
Ganu : Then they said this this this... too much of confusion happening because of this.
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Ganu: Everyday there are complaints from one side or other. So...
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Niira: But here we didn't, I didn't, I haven't spoken to anyone other than I spoke to Rohini and Venk-..Venu.
Ganu : <i>Haan</i>...
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Niira: Just now to understand what's happening.
Ganu : No they're, they're calling up and complaining everyday <i>na</i> (isn't it)? First they...
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Niira: Yea but then, Ganu tell me one thing. If they do lie...
Ganu : Hmmm...
Niira: ...and if they do wrong...
Ganu : Hmmm...
Niira: ...then what will happen? Won't they, won't people report on it? Isn't that journalism?
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Ganu : No no no, exactly. I asked... What they're saying is - On the EGoM story, they vehemently went and complained after we wrote that saying that you know they are only trying to undermine our case- by saying that the government has to you know play a role and all that.
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Niira: Hmmm...
Ganu : Then I think on-on on the other story, on the day when it went to the court where they made a hodge podge of it, I think there were some complaints from your side. I don't know who made those complaints.
Niira: No, we never made any complaint.
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Ganu : <i>Woh keh raha hai ki us din ka</i> (He was saying that the other day) there were some complaints, objections from your side.
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Niira: Not at all. We've not made any complaints, we've not talked to anyone. On the contrary, I've been so co-operative by
giving edit pieces of Mukesh Ambani everything.
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Ganu : Hmmm, hmmm.
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Niira: (inaudible)
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Ganu : And as as as a result, <i>kal andar bhi kaafi kuchh</i> (internally also there were), you know, firing of volleys from here and there <i>bohot hua hai</i> (has happened a lot). So as a result, as a result, they've not carried both the reports that whatever, that <i>koi</i> (some) Agarwal lawyer no, some whatever, his statement and this - both have been stopped yesterday, last night.
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Niira: Yea, but whatever Agarwal said was in interest of ADAG to stop in any case because-I'm told the ADAG has really bashed him for saying that in the first place.
Ganu : Ohh...
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Niira: For (inaudible) he says to the government.
Ganu : Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm...
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Niira: What trading and all that he has said that <i>na</i>.
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Ganu : Hmmm...this is what I heard from my guys in the desk. The guy staff ...insiders sit in the office late at night.
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Niira: No, so I'm told now, that what you're telling me now is that ET is not going to carry anything in the court case at all?
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Ganu : No, no, no... not like that. There ...only wherever there are some court orders or something whatever, only major things they're going to report, otherwise...
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Niira: So the GVK rights, the state government rights, the government rights - none of this is gonna get carried?
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Ganu : I think, I think that is what they're coming to.
Niira: Wow!... <i>Chalo</i> (come), we'll go to HT then.
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Ganu : Or, you speak to Ravi once <i>na</i>, and ask him <i>ki</i> (that) what is this, I mean...
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Niira: I'm not going to... I'm just gonna go. I'm meeting Raghav today, and we'll just handle it with CNBC and with Mint and HT.
Ganu : Hmmm...
Niira: It's perfectly fine. We don't need to... it's fine! If ET wants to stay out of it and not be part of the reporting...
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Ganu : Hmmm...
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Niira: So it's fine.
Ganu : Err... it'll be, it'll be entirely their loss, But at the same time you should not, you know, give them an opportunity. What these guys will do after a couple of days, I will, they will try and come and jump back saying we will... I told you <i>na</i>, already they have said to some of the people in my office- that we will provide you all things, in advance this that blah blah blah, blah blah blah...
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Ganu: <i>Theek hai</i> (Alright) I'll I'll...
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Niira: (inaudible) their point of view <i>na</i>. We will not give anything to ET Now.
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Ganu : Hmmmm... that's what is going to happen. I think the kind of (inaudible) stand that is being taken, I think,
ultimately it is coming to that.
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Niira: Oh, it suits Preeti and Rahul and people like that very much because obviously the case is not going to go in their favour, because they've got a point of law that is not going to be in their favour, so we'll see. <i>Theek hai na</i>, doesn't matter Ganu, we'll see. I'll make sure that we work through CNBC, HT and (inaudible).
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Ganu : And I think, funnily what they've done is, they've led a TV report on this but not the paper.
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Niira: <i>Nahi karenge</i> Ganu, <i>humko</i> print <i>chahiye</i> (They won't do it, Ganu, we want print).
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Ganu : Hmmmm...I know, I know.
Niira: I'll do it (inaudible) via CNBC and HT. I have no issue.
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Ganu : I, I, I think that is the kind of message that is coming through. But once I get the confirmation, I'll tell you whether this is going to be the permanent position or what it is like.
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Niira: No, if that is the case then we will...(laughingly) then fine <i>na</i>... it's their call.
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Ganu : No but I think, I think, today you should, you know, tell Venu that you know, at least a couple of times yesterday it was mentioned to them and late at night messages were sent from several people. And you know now they're saying internally this has become a fight dividing factor. You know, they're saying that internally this is dividing people internally blah blah blah whatever.
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Niira: Because, because, because you've got people like Javed and everybody who's on their side no.
Ganu : <i>Haan woh aisa</i> (Yes, that)...there is some kind of <i>gadbad</i> (hodge podge) like that.
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Niira: Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm.
Ganu : So, But ultimately, it... the management and Rahul have to, you know, take a stand on this and, you know, see... We should, we should not go by what people say. we should go by what the factual position is.
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Niira: Hmmmm...
Ganu : So that is the entire fight about (sic).
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Niira: Hmmm...<i>Theek hai</i> (OK).
Ganu : I'll, I'll keep you updated in the afternoon.
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Niira: OK.
Ganu : OK.
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Niira: OK, Ganu, thanks, bye.
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Nira Radia- Yes Surojeet!
Surojeet- Hi, how are you?
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Nira: I am ok he has an offer and he is not gonna take it. Don't ask, don't mention it because basically at the end of the day Jadav Patel met him, -whatever his name is Jadav - Ya or -
Surojeet- Ya ya..
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Nira- He met him and asked him and you know, as far as...There are so many ills of the airlines...<i>ye tum likhoge to nahi</i> (you will not going to write this, are you)?
Surojeet- <i>Haan ekdum likhenge (yes, will write, of course) </i> I am writing an edit on how Patil has screwed the airline.
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Nira: Yeah, so basically now what they trying to do all the deals they are made, they trying to ratify it by having someone like Ratan Tata there.
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Surojeet- Just to...
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Nira- Yeah, you know...instead of getting...it's been...basically what have they done?- They've done bilaterals, they've given away with the asset from the airline.
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Surojeet- Absolutely.
Nira- Their attempt was the (inaudible) the airlines so that two carriers would benefit <i>na</i>, So given the thankfully their economic downturn cause them a problem also, otherwise <i>ye</i> airline <i>ko bech dete</i> (they would have sold the airline).
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Surojeet- Hmm, hmm, hmm.
Nira- So now they are trying to bring Ratan Tata in to show the Prime Minister- <i>ki</i> (that) they're gonna do something...<i>to wo to nahi kar rahe</i> (he is not going to do it) he is not stupid <i>na</i>... He knows that Patel is using him to ratify his own dues that he is done... <i>to wo to nahi karega ...wo to mujhe nahi lagata ki</i> (then, he will not do it, I don't think that) he is going to take it on, anything.
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Nira: And I think the government's gonna, Prime Minister's gonna have to step in and take over the charge of national carrier.
Surojeet- Yeah, absolutely otherwise <i>nahi hoga</i> (it will not happen).
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Nira: You can't leave it to Prafull Patel, I think if you are writing then you should write <i>na</i> how he's screwed up the airline.
Surojeet- <i>Nahi nahi</i> (No no), I am doing, I am doing for their sake I am doing of how he played the whole bilateral game, and how he...gave right to the - I was waiting for the figures I have got all the figures, I mean how Etihad was, Etihad airlines was nowhere three years ago now it is fourth largest airline in India. Then Emirates, we got some very interesting figures like in 2004 when he came, -there were 2.5 million seats given on the Middle East route now it is 7.5 million.
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Nira- Yeah, And one other thing is the time of disinvestment when Air India was disinvested, -the most intrinsic value of Air India was bilaterals, barring the... hangerage and of course the ground handling and all that they had. Now even that's open. With the privatization of airport is open to all...
Surojeet- Yeah ...
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Nira: Question of that having any value no longer applies 'cause they've got old equipments now. So at best what the value of Air India becomes is real estate which is what these two private carriers want. <i>Unko tho</i> hangerage <i>chahiye na</i> so this (inaudible) (They want hangerage -inaudible-).
Surojeet: The asset was essentially bilateral and hangerage.
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Nira: But no it was ground handling, it was MRO, it was all their backend engineering capacity including the hangers and space in Mumbai. ...but now with the privatization of airport that all changes, you see?
Surojeet: Yeah yeah....
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Nira: In any case ground handling and MRO is now open to all...so they're destroyed now... The very people who are now trying to revive the - revive Air India gave away the bilaterals, destroyed its value.
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Nira: Remember that the forty MPs that opposed the disinvestment of Air India and this thing- included Prafull Patel and Sharad Pawar. It was Sharad Pawar that wrote to Vajpayee saying - why are you not allowing to Naresh Goyal to bid for Air India so...
Surojeet- You wrote a letter, is it?
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Nira- <i>Bahut purani</i> letter <i>hai</i>, Surojeet, <i>use</i> dig <i>karne me mujhe</i> It's a very old letter, Surojeet, to dig it out I'll)...I will have to go into storage -
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Surojeet: <i>Achaa achaa</i> (Yes, yes)
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Nira: But it is there, it's on record and I can assure you...nothing will...you will not be quoted wrong on it. And why was he not allowed. And these are the very people that are...there are today trying to...so called trying to put up a facade that they are trying to revive it. At that time the debt of airline was 3,000 crore in '98.
Surojeet: Ok.
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Nira: Taken it up to 14,000 crore and uh... -you know, they've taken it up to 14,000 crore, what is left? Huge huge huge orders what are they gonna do with these airlines, when the bilaterals have been given away to everybody else in the competition.
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Nira: And then don't forget to write about the merger.
Surojeet- Yeah.
Nira: I mean what...What good was the merger? It has only increased the problems. In fact what you should have you done, which is what the earlier government was trying to do was divest ground handling, divest um....this thing, MRO, so they could became the separate profit centers. Divest meaning Air India, Indian Airlines would still would have equity in it, and they would've still been in the majority player but divest it so they coulld have become separate profit centers and convert Air India, Indian Airlines into a virtual airline operation which is what is done the world over.
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Nira: These are the very people that opposed it. They stopped these facts and the SIEC deal happening, you remember?
Surojeet: Yes, absolutely.
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Nira: And then they brought in middle men like Deepak Talwar and everybody else to do deals for them on bilateral.
Surojeet: Get all those bilaterals from Middle East.
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Nira: Yeah,yeah...so he worked to a conspiracy of the Middle East carriers -to destroy the national carriers successfully, <i>pura aise</i> strip <i>kiya hai</i> airline <i>ko</i> (the whole airline has been stripped in this way).
Surojeet: <i>Aur abhi badi badi baten kar rahen hain logon se</i> (And now he's talking big).
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Nira: <i>Arrey ab kya</i> (What can we do now). What he is trying to show now that he is turned it around?
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Surojeet: I am going to get a CEO, I am gonna - all rubbish, ya!
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Nira: Nobody can turn this airline around, if they ever want anything to do they should bring Sunil Arora back. He is the only -
Surojeet: Only guy. Yeah absolutely.
Nira: Nobody else can do it. Nobody in the...you know, he is the only one who brought uh...profitability to Indian airlines in many years.
Surojeet- Absolutely...
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Nira: Yeah so it was pretty much of a mess yeah...<i>kya ye log</i> (these people) <i>toh</i> Ratan Tata is not stupid fool, he is so...he will just write and tell them that he is not interested. <i>Woh jab aayega</i> letter <i>toh main tumko bhej dungi wo abhi</i> (When he returns I will send you the letter)...he is in Israel right now.
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Surojeet: We can say he is not going to accept.
Nira: I think he should say that you know he is unlikely to, given that in his previous tenure as chairman of Air India, he went through a traumatic time. The same lobbies had worked against him to ensure that he didn't get Air India at that time, had worked against him even on the domestic airline. And I think that, you know... that and he is far too occupied he's got his own businesses today to run.
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Nira: You can write that yeah. <i>Kya bhai ye log pagal log hain</i> (What are these people, they are mad)
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Nira: TOI <i>bhi kar raha hai ye</i> (TOI is also doing this) story I am telling you, just letting you know. <i>Ye log bhi ek</i> centre spread <i>kar rahen hain pura Air India pe</i> (These people are doing a centre spread on Air India).
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Surojeet: <i>Kaun</i>? (Who?)
Nira: TOI.
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Surojeet- <i>Achha</i>
Nira - <i>Pata nahi kab kar rahen hain, abhi inhone likhna shuru nahi kiya lekin mujhe</i> call <i>aayaa tha kal ki</i> please, help <i>kar de</i> (I don't know when, they've not begun writing it, I got a call yesterday saying please, help out). So I said that I am so caught up in my own this thing, but whatever some little pieces I know I let you know...that's why. But Jadav <i>gaya tha</i> Ratan Tata <i>ko milne ke liye han</i> (But Jadav went to meet Ratan Tata)...
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Surojeet: <i>Achha achha</i>.
Nira: He had gone to meet him on the request of Prafull Patel.
Surojeet: <i>Achha</i>.
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Nira: Prafull Patel himself should have gone and asked Ratan Tata.
Surojeet- Hmm, hmm.
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Nira: <i>Toh</i> Prime Minister <i>ko jake puchhna chahiye tha ki</i> (Should've asked the Prime Minister), why should Ratan Tata?
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Surojeet: Ramadurai <i>ka nam bhi liya ja sakta hai</i> (Ramadurai's name can be taken as well.)
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Nira: <i>Haan</i>, I don't know Ram will take it, you know I don't know. I mean, his independent capacity if he wants to take it that's up to them
Surojeet- Hmm.
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Nira: But I think the Tatas feel I mean, at the end of the day, these were the very people who tried to stop him coming into the airline sector, And had they come today this would not have been the case of Air India.
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Surojeet: Eventually they will get a Sam Pitroda, useless fellow..
Nira: <i>Kya hoga, kuchh nahin hoga</i> (Nothing will happen).
Surojeet: <i>Woh kuchh nahi karega wo faltu ka, bade bade</i> lecture <i>marega yahi sab hoga</i> (He won't do anything, he's useless, he'll just give some big lectures.)
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Nira: They need an operating guy, they need man like Sunil Arora back.
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Surojeet: They will get the CEO from some <i>fiang</i> (foreign) place and say we have got -
Nira: <i>Kya karega woh,</i> Air India union <i>ko</i> handle <i>karna</i> (What will he do, handling the Air India union) you know what is like <i>na</i>, No <i>firang</i> is going to be able to handle that.
Surojeet: He'll run away after one year.
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Nira- <i>Chalo</i> ok then, take care, bye...
Surojeet- Thanks.
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Niira: Madhav, hi, sorry to disturb you, Madhav.
Madhav: Hi
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N: The government's view, I've had a long chat with Chandolia just now, I spent about half an hour on the phone with him.
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N: The thing is that, you see, the government's stand is that we're not really as of now looking at the Subhodh Kumar report.
M: <i>Haan</i> (Yes).
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N: We've uh, we're gonna send it to TRAI and that will take 6 months. In the mean time, whatever is our existing policy, our subscriber base will continue.
M: <i>Haan</i>...
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N: And therefore while she assures that we are in the queue, and therefore Anil Ambani cannot get his 1.8 till we are given our 4.4 because we are effectively in the queue no, for those circles, and the queue will have to be honoured. And therefore his 1.8 will come only after we get our 4.4...
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M: But he's currently, in TDSAT, he's asking 1.8 only for Mumbai for which he had made applications before some 7 months or so, and DoT has kept him pending including they had told him- that we are waiting for report and TDSAT judgment is awaited and all those things.
N: Hmm.
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M: So he's pressing only for Mumbai where we have already received our spectrum.
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N: And everybody else also has received spectrum in Mumbai, right?
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M: Yeah, Mumbai...Mumbai there is no pending applications- unless somebody like Airtel has crossed the subscriber team. Everybody - there is no pendency really in Mumbai.
N: So he will get Bombay.
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M: He will get, he will get Bombay. His application is only for this -
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N: The (inaudible) will set a precedent.
M: Yes, Bombay will, Bombay will take away the argument from DoT, that we are waiting for this, waiting for that. But I think last week then there was another spectrum matter where DoT said we have not yet decided whether to refer it to TRAI, because Arun Kumar said it will take 6 months time, so why are you asking adjournment only for one month?
N: Hmm.
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M: So they said no we are still debating whether to send a committee report to TRAI, the government has not taken a formal decision on it -
N: No, actually these people have taken a decision, only they have not sent it yet, because I believe secretary has been opposing that.
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M: <i>Haan, haan </i>, correct.
N: I've spoken to Chandolia -
M: - signed it day before yesterday or so, on Tuesday he signed the file on sending to TRAI, including perpetual license, uh, concept als.
N: Right.
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M: That also they are making a reference, as a part of this, that instead of ten years, twenty years, why not say once it is given, it is given. The spectrum or license, once it's given, unless cancelled, it stands.
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M: <i>Haan</i>, right, correct.
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N: PMO might not allow that, actually, because they've a very different view from the minister on that one.
M: <i>Haan, haan</i>.
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N: But the thing is - the thing is that they say he will, unless we get our spectrum as far as Delhi is concerned, they're quite comfortable that nobody will give get spectrum unless we are first cleared. Now my only worry is that he will then go and get some other legal opinion which will say that you know, we've not launched services.
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N: That will obviously give us our argument that okay, then the ones that have not launched, including Swan, then give us their spectrum. It can help us, that argument. But my worry is that he may, you know, set a precedent doing this and then move on. And uh...
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M: But these, but Arun Kumar uh, Arun Kumar doesn't want to do anything because -
N: - He's retiring no?
M: He's retiring in September. So he, I mean, in one of the functions he say (sic) that okay I, you can print that I have already retired.
N: Hmm.
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M: He doesn't want to take any major hearings also before that. So he will see - I mean, try - because the problem is now he, this other person (inaudible), he can't write judgments, so it is Arun Kumar who will have to write the judgments, because earlier Dr. Sarma was doing that job for each and every matter, Dr. Sarma was writing the judgments. Now there is nobody to write the judgments also. So he's very, Arun Kumar is very reluctant to do anything, yeah.
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M: No, today he would, I think the government may say okay we are still thinking, government may ask for time...
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N: No no, they are not asking for time -
M: Not asking?
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N: No their response is that given that the matter's going to go TRAI and it'll take 4-6 months, we will continue to maintain -
M: We will continue with out policy, yeah.
N: Yeah, we will continue to maintain our policy, yeah.
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M: That's what they would say today.
N: Yeah.
M: Okay.
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M: Yeah, but the CoI uh...the present policy will continue, but the CoI, then CoI members will also keep on getting spectrum.
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(indiscernible, both speaking at the same time)
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M: Block at 4.4? Okay.
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N: Correct.
M: But this is already decided matter so Arun Kumar would say that okay, our judgment is very clear, we don't want to do any interpretation on that.
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N: Hmm, hmm.
M: That would be the easiest way for him to take a stand...that what is, what is ambiguous in the...what is ambiguous in the judgment, you tell us that.
N: Hmm, hmm, hmm.
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M: Because there is no ambiguity in the judgment, because Reliance was given this excuse from DoT, they want to bring a sort of a certificate from TDSAT that they have no objections, which Arun Kumar will not fall prey for that, ya!
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N: Yeah, I hope not, I hope not. I don't know, you know, Madhav, (inaudible). Now this Supreme Court matter, we'll take a call, I mean once Anil and I have met minister, we will need to take a call how we approach it, because they've got an answer to both our scenarios, huh.
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M: Yeah, exact, and another problem is, this is that January 2008 situation,...we had a lot of opportunities and we're trying to challenge it after 18 months..and meanwhile the third party interests have been created, the spectrum has been given the priority, they had filed that priority list also where we were the last, you know? We've not challenged that also. So the government would say that what stopped you from challenging that time? you could have done that, uh...by filing even a separate petition, How can you come up to us after 18 months or 20 months?
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N: Why, because, because we are seeing that we have not been given spectrum, we're seeing other operators, who are not launching their services who have been given licenses and spectrum, and we feel that this is unfair, we were under the impression at that time that we would be given spectrum.
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M: Yeah.
(inaudible, both speaking at the same time.)
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M: But then we will have to go to the, go to this TDSAT with a fresh petition, what the first draft is already prepared, and the... because Supreme Court would say that okay this was not the point before TDSAT, so you can't bring before us any new facts or new I mean, arguments.
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M: That's what they will tell us. That this was a challenge only to the dual technology.
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M: And so you can't bring any other allocation points into that. So our remedy is to go to TDSAT, file a fresh petition and say that we were number 2 and we should have been given. And the priority list is...it doesn't have any scientific basis for the priority and all those things.
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N: Yeah but minister's told me that he's going to vehemently oppose that.
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M: Yeah because the others -
(inaudible, both speaking at the same time.)
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N: Swan is his personal interest, yeah?
M: Yeah, his personal interest, yeah.
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N: Yeah, he has told me that. So we have to be very, you know what, that's why I don't want to do it in a hurry. We've got...I think we've got time. I think we should wait till we meet him, and I know what he is going to say, that you know, um, this is something that I'm not going to allow, you'll get spectrum, don't worry. So I'm trying to see how there's another strategy that we can work around -
M: Yeah...
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N: - And um, see what to do. By the way, his AT&T - they'd applied to AT&T for uh, they were going to do a (inaudible) with them, AT&T was buying in, that's got blocked, huh.
M: That's got blocked, okay.
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N: Blocked because Mukesh has put an objection on the ROFR.
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M: Yes, correct, and they won't - Companies like AT&T won't take the risk of investment when there is a ROFR, yeah.
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N: They approached me to talk to Mukesh...to see that he should not come in the way. Then they approached through the embassy, they then approached through the US Embassy. They talked to several people in industry saying that please talk to Mukesh and tell him that he should not come in the way and all that and Anil will remain with 26%...I mean, our view is why should they give him millions and make a monster out of him, he'll go and bribe more people.
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M: Yeah. Correct, because this I think, probably their (inaudible) is expiring in 2010, I think.
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N: Yeah.
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M: 2010, yeah. So by that time, probably they may also - Mukesh also may launch something in Telecom.
N: No, he's not coming into Telecom -
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M: Okay.
N: No no no no no.
(inaudible, both speaking at the same time.)
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N: <i>Haan</i>, he's not going to allow him to. No, those are all to do with his (indiscernible), no?
M: <i>Haan</i>.
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N: Ah, he's not interested in Telecom.
M: No, he is doing something with Kishore Biyani.
N: Hmm.
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M: Uh, where...I mean in that company Futuregroup has invested, and somebody from Reliance - Prakash Bajpai, he's the frontman, he was with Anil - Reliance Infocom, he was I mean, before some 5-6 months he was sacked from that company (sic).
N: Hmm.
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M: Because he has already started - he had already started that unit.
N: Hmm, hmm.
M: It is Mumbai's best unit.
N: Yeah.
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N: But that's - I thought that's more for (captex?)
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M: Uh huh, where Kishore Biyani has invested some 65%.
N: Okay okay, I'm not...I'll double check that, yeah.
M: Yeah, those are...ex Tata, ex Reliance Infocom people.
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N: Right, right right.
M: ex TTML, means before Tatas took over. Prakash that time was CEO of Hughes Telecom.
N: Hughes, yeah, yeah.
M: Yeah, and then he went to Reliance Infocom, and then he started I think, this, uh, there is some foreign fund has invested 100 billion dollars there.
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N: Right, right. But I think that they are not...at least I know for sure from Mukesh that he's not interested in coming back into Telecom -
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N: Not at all. He's just going to make sure that he - that this guy doesn't get his ROFR.
M: Yes.
N: Yeah, yeah. That's basically where he's coming from, so... Let's see. So I just thought that I'd let you know that this is what -
M: Okay sure.
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N: So we still have to make sure that they don't uh, then, through Mumbai then slip into Delhi also, you know. That's my biggest worry, you know.
M: Because in Delhi there is no (inaudible).
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N: Yeah, he'll use the subscriber argument, he'll go into Vanavati, get Vanavati to give some silly opinion and then again we'll be stuck.
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M: Yes, and Vanavati he wants to remain active...because AD(?) doesn't come for arguments, really.
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N: Hmm hmm hmm, but he was there! (inaudible).
M: He was there. He vehemently, vehemently opposed the thing.
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N: Hmm.
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M: Like any other, as if he was a Solicitor-General, he argues.
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N: Hmm, hmm, but isn't that strange?
M: Yes, it is, it is strange and...so probably the judges may say okay, the government is attaching so much importance to this matter -
N: Yeah...yeah.
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N: I think Vanavati will get exposed if he does that too much.
M: Let's see, if he does it too much.
N: Yeah -
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Niira: Hi Paddy!
Padmanabhan: Hi, good morning Niira.
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N: Good morning!
P: Um, on this letter to be written to Tata Power, there are two options.
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P: One, to write to RIL, specifically to the secretary of power. The other is to write to the secretary of power. Um, the first one is, we considered it...because you know, our gas supply arrangement is with RIL. And, we can tell them that listen, we have come into an arrangement and from the various reports that we are seeing, we are anxious that this commitment will not be met, and for a variety of reasons we would like that this agreement be ensured that we get gas.
N: Hmm.
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P: Hmm, that is one way of writing this letter.
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N: Hmm, but they'll say that we are only subject to the government allocating the power to you.
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P: Correct correct correct.
N: Yeah.
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P: So I should add that also, that you know, our agreement is based on - subject to the government -
N: Hmm.
P: - allocating gas to us, yeah?
N: Hmm, but won't that be just easier for you to just write to the government and say that, that you know, we are writing to - add a copy to RIL in reverse.
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P: Mmhmm, mmhmm.
N: And if you do it in reverse, you are writing a letter to the Power ministry, saying please allocate us gas and marking a copy to RIL saying that we've sent this letter to the government, because we are concerned about this. In that way. So then you are doing both.
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P: So you prefer that would be better is it?
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N: That would be better, yeah, because at the end of the day RIL will write back and say you know, what, we are writing uh...we are subject to the government's whims and fancies in any case. So why don't you address it to the government. So I think it's easier for you and faster for you to write to the government and mark RIL a copy.
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P: Yes, okay.
N: That may be better, no?
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P: Yes. No no, we were just thinking which would be.... See, the government can actually help us in this whole scheme if we do it this way, like what you're just explaining.
N: Yeah.
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N: They would and then they would - I think (inaudible) everybody's very conscious of this right now, and I think Tata's writing to the government right now would be very critical. Saying that you know, we need this now.
P: Hmm.
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P: And we also felt that we should not refer to the High Court judgment but we should refer to the you know, we are reading reports on this. I think that will be better.
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N: Correct.
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P: And we will stick to the discussion on the quantum. Yeah?
N: Absolutely, and also you should say that - I think you should bring the consumer angle in as well, Paddy. That's very very critical. Mention that "given that it's a pass through", you know?
P: Hmm.
N: It will benefit the consumer.
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P: Okay.
N: And Bombay is reeling on the lack of power and all that (sic) and all that.
P: Yes from morning to evening I've talked to the consumer groups only on that topic now.
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N: (Laughs) You have my sympathies.
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P: Yesterday I met one person who was so suave, but then she said I represent Raj Thackeray, (laughs), and she wanted to know how the power situation is. I think everybody is building their own case.
N: Mmhmm. Mmhmm. (mumbles)
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P: Okay, let me draft something and send it to you.
N: Super, great.
P: One or two paras will talk about emission, this and that. Then -
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Venu: Hello?
Niira: Venu, hi, sorry.
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V: <i> Nahin, aise hi phone kiya</i> (I called just like that), I just uh...
N: Good discussion?
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V: Yeah, Rohini's story has been put up at least as a lead big display on the ET.com, I don't know whether you saw it.
N: I know, I was told, but what about tomorrow, in print?
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V: Tomorrow, I am not sure you know, because uh...I've not checked, I'll check with TK, but she's...but this is already having its impact, she's already got a call from Ravi Sodi, wanting to meet her (laughs).
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N: I know, I know. I wanted to ask you, do you think that now - I think that Manoj has met - is meeting editors. Does he really need to meet people like Soma and Jaiswan and all of them, no need, <i>na</i>?
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V: Uh..
N: Why you wanna do that, at this stage? What do you think, just advise...?
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V: You see, I mean...I mean, if he has enough, actually these guys, they know what the issues are, you know, in the sense, if he has time he can do it, uh...because that Chalsani and all they keep talking to these people, no...
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N: Okay, okay...
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V: So...but PMS Prasad talks to Soma regularly, <i>na</i>?
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N: I know he does, he talks to her all the time. Just wondering...coz I've got this sort of one hour in between tomorrow, but it'll only be an hour, but so -
V: Yeah, yeah.
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V: Actually uh, PMS uh is quite uh sort of this thing uh...with -
N: With Soma.
V: Yeah, has uh quite a...intellectual influence over Soma, you know (chuckles)?
N: Yes yes, I noticed that.
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N: Maybe I'll leave it for this time. We'll see it another time. But uh, it'd be interesting to see.
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N: What was TK's reaction of the meeting?
V: TK's uh...you know, TK of course was uh, he was happy to get a full background of the whole thing and he uh...generally he...I mean he's uh, what should I say, he's ideologically convinced that there is uh... there's this lots of stuff in the elder brother and the younger brother is (inaudible), you know.
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N: Correct, correct, yeah, that's true.
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V: Yeah...you know that's uh, you know these are very...what Manoj Modi was saying, it's a very convincing argument that after they split how much he has invested and how much has he been able to invest.
N: Absolutely, yeah yeah.
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N: It's all there, I mean, yeah.
V: And in real assets, you know? These are all there for people to see, <i>na,</i> problem <i>kya hai</i> (What's the problem)?
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N: Correct, correct. Absolutely.
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V: And I don't think this Manoj Modi was playing an underdog,...<i>na, ki humara toh kuch hai nahin</i> (that I don't have anything), he's obviously (chuckles), I mean I could see through his bit of acting, you know.
N: Hmm, hmm.
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V: That we don't have you know, any, and you know we're not so good at managing the environment -
N: No but they, Venu, they have given up a lot of that, you know, I've seen it myself. Last 10 months, I myself have seen how much they're doing, you know?
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V: Yeah.
(Inaudible, both speaking at the same time.)
V: - Terrible decisions they took. One they got that some Ranbaxy fellow as their communication head, you know. Paresh Chowdhary. He was a disaster.
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N: <i>Haan, usko toh nikaal diya tha, haan</i> (Oh yes, they fired him.)
V: They made such...they made some terrible mistakes you know.
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N: Hmm hmm hmm, <i>chalo</i>, let's hope I can work further, I hope I'm doing alright so far (chuckles), I'm trying.
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V: <i>Nahin, </i> absolutely, I mean, I think uh...at least, the media perception is that after you took charge there is a fight, you know?
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V: And this is Rahul's perception, I mean, the - ...'coz everybody's perception is after you've taken charge, there's a solid you know, you're giving a solid, you know -
N: Yeah, they'd be sitting ducks, no, otherwise?
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V: Even they feel that...even the Anil Ambani side, they... I mean, they're in awe of you, you know, they know that you, you know,...that you're giving them a you know, solid uh -
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N: Sudeep Gurumurthy, Javed and all have also been saying all sorts of nonsense. Sudeep Gurumurthy has been looking for me, he wants to meet me. And he I mean, I don't know why, but I'll meet him, in the coming weeks -
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V: Huh? Yeah, yeah.
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V: But what is this Gurumurthy's thing? I mean, I...
N: No no, he is completely (inaudible).
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V: So I've never tracked these TV journalists, 'cause frankly I have no respect for TV journalsits.
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N: I've seen him on CNBC and I know how he has been, so -
V: Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
N: Completely on this (inaudible).
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V: Yeah, yeah yeah.
N: (mutters)
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V: Actually the...Niira between you and me, Javed and all ...he...these people look for you know, uh ...people look at Rahul, they look at which way Rahul's bias works. And between you and me, so far, to me also Rahul has shown a very clear bias, you know?
N: Yeah, I know that, yeah.
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V: For that uh...one day I told Rahul, I said your friend Amitabh, he said no no, he's not a friend, he became very defensive.
N: Yeah yeah.
V: So actually they are very close you know.
N: Yeah, yeah.
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V: And uh, so I also in between I put him on the defensive saying I believe Amitabh (chuckles, inaudible) good friend of yours.
N: Yeah yeah.
V: Just as he tries to put me on the defensive.
N: (Inaudible).
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V: You know, he also Niira, from time to time, <i>haan haan, tumhara toh wahan bada dost hai wahan pe</i> (oh you have a high-up friend there), You are seen as you know, uh...sympathetic to MDA. So then I also gave, throw one at him, you know. (chuckles)
N: Correct, correct, correct.
V: So you know. Uh....
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N: Yeah, maybe Rahul should stick to television and handover print to you guys.
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V: Huh?
N: I said they should change, if they had any sense.
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V: No no but he, between you and me, Rahul is quite fed up of TV, he wants to come back to print. I mean, he...he's dying because of handover television to (inaudible)
N: Hmm, hmm.
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V: Because he's had a harrowing time, you know. Because it's not his medium. He doesn't understand TV, <i>na</i>, so, and he's been spending 14 hours a day there, you know, all kinds of things.
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N: When are you coming to Bombay?
V: I'll come to Bombay sometime, you know, maybe 10-15 days from now I'll come.
N: Let me know, 'coz MDA will be there then now you need to meet, Manoj was saying today after you guys left, so...
V: Yeah.
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N: We need to organise that meeting between you and Mukesh and all that.
V: How was he?
N: He was very pleased, he was very pleased to meet you. He said you guys, intellectually at least you really had a very good discussion.
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V: Yeah, I see, when I told him no, when I told him that this...freedom to market which the Parliament reply says it's...actually subject to the larger policy. So he said you hit the nail on the head, that is the main issue, you know?
N: Correct, absolutely.
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V: Yeah, today, by the way I just wanted to tell you,...today Rohini Singh took Andy Mukherjee to uh...Digvijay Singh. So because I, because Digvijay is quite tally with ET, I'd invited him for lunch to our office about three four weeks ago, before the election, about 5 weeks ago. And then I told Rohini you go and meet him, I mean, she's trying to build some contact <i>yaar</i>, So, so they were...so Andy and Rohini were talking about the Gas issue so they told Rohini and Andy, he says I've ready Venu's piece, he's summed it up, you know. He's the most succinct person (chuckles) the most effective sum up of the issue.
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V: And he talked about the Taj Mahal the line, you know. How can Taj Mahal be divided, you know? Appropriated by you know, some third parties, you know?
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N: Hmm, hmm.
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V: So my sense is, so she came up with the feeling, and even Andy, that Congress party is solidly uh...you know, uh, behind uh -
N: - Mukesh.
V: Is solidly against -
N: - ADA.
V: Ya.
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V: Basically, out of self-interest also, no?
N: Correct, correct, correct.
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V: So these are -
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N: - I think, I think she's, I think basically the leadership on the top is very clear on this national asset issue...Iron ore and all that, I can see that, yeah.
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V: Yeah, that's why I brought in all those things, <i>na</i>, spectrum, this, that. And you know, I'm telling you they...you must meet MKN on this. MKN is also working on some sort of uh, resource, how to sort of look at national policy on resources and all. I think somebody should straight away meet PM on this, you know, Ratan Tata and all these people -
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N: I think Ratan would probably do that.
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V: And you know, he should know, he should now kick off a larger debate on how should we look at resources, you know. How should we avoid these kind of stupdi ridiculous litigations, you know.
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N: Hmm, maybe Ratan will do that, absolutely.
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V: That's what needs to be done, you know.
N: But thanks today for coming, I appreciate it so much.
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V: Yeah yeah, thanks.
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N: I'll try and see what Manoj says about Soma and then and whether he wants to and then we'll see whether I need to call them tomorrow and take it from there.
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V: Yeah.
N: Yeah, but we'll meet when -
V: Yeah we'll meet.
N: Thanks so much.
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V: Your in Delhi for a couple of days, <i>na</i>?
N: Till Friday.
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(Airtel ring tone)
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Kanimozhi: Hello.
Niira Radia: Hi. Listen, they're caught up in a meeting, but they are going to speak to you.
Kanimozhi: Pardon?
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Niira Radia: They are going to speak to you, that message has gone to them. What also that I have just mentioned to them is that you're not, only Raja was supposed to have gone to the swearing-in.
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Kanimozhi: Yeah.
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Niira Radia: So they're like little, they're so sort of [Indiscernible] [0:00:49.0] about the whole thing, they don't understand what's going on. So, I told them....
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Kanimozhi: No, they just want to come and say that whatever happens, I'm in your side.
Niira Radia: Who wants to say?
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Kanimozhi: Whoever, that guy who, Daya is going, no?
Niira Radia: Daya is not talking to Ahmed Patel, Daya is not talking to Ahmed Patel, I don't know who Daya is talking to.
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Kanimozhi: Okay. No, no, Daya is going to the swearing-in, no?
Niira Radia: No, that's what I've heard from Congress that he has given his name, that he is going to the swearing-in.
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Kanimozhi: I don't know, he is supposed to come back with me. So, I mean, it's just that he's going out to say that whatever...€“ in spite of whatever my leaders says, I'm [Indiscernible].
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Niira Radia: Yeah, but your dad should be told, no?
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Kanimozhi: That is what, he will come and give some stupid cock and bull story to him. He will say Ahmed Patel... no, no, he will come and say Ahmed Patel called.
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Kanimozhi: He said at least you should come, you're the only representative, that you're the face of DMK. If you're not there, it won't be good.
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Niira Radia: If your dad were to say to him that I only authorized Raja to go, no? If your dad said, dad to tell Raja to tell Maran that I only authorized Raja not you.
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Kanimozhi: No, dad won't, no way [Indiscernible] have to call up dad and tell him, no I can't.
Niira Radia: I know you're fed up of it, but this is only a start, no?
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Kanimozhi: Yeah, yeah.
Niira Radia: Politics, my dear.
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Kanimozhi: You don't mind doing politics with other people, yes [Indiscernible] [0:02:30.3].
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Niira Radia: I know, but it's okay, but I know you are frustrated with him, so just leave him, just ignore him and you know he'll soon become irrelevant. But you have to....
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Kanimozhi: [Indiscernible] it's not that. No, no, it is not that, Niira. See, I don't mind [Indiscernible], its that somebody is going against your own party and leader, that is what....
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Niira Radia: Yeah, but then your father has to understand it, he's not understanding, so you have to tell him that.
Kanimozhi: How do I make him understand, keep telling, he doesn't understand....
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Niira Radia: Who is going to make him understand? Only you can do that. Nobody else, Kanni. He will not listen to anyone else except you.
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Niira Radia: You know that, the only person who is going to listen to because none of the others, everybody else is still scared to go and tell him that. You're his daughter, so he can listen to you. You have to use your position, Kanni, you have to. If you want to save the party, you're going to have to use it.
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Kanimozhi: I'll do my best.
Niira Radia: Yeah, you take care, I'll call you....
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Kanimozhi: Anyway, I'll be leaving to the airport at 4 o'clock....
Niira Radia: Yeah, that's doesn't matter, so they'll call you in Chennai, but they'll know that they have to speak to you.
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Kanimozhi: Then, I'll be reaching Chennai around 7:30 if possible.
Niira Radia: Then, when they call you, you just tell them, you please come to Chennai if you want to talk, whatever you want to talk come to...

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Pal pal pal pal...(Phone rings)
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(Background talk, inaudible)
Niira: Hello?
Unknown: Are you still in the meeting?
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Niira: Yes, but go ahead, no, no problem, no problem.
Unknown: No no, call me whenever you get out of the meeting, I am still wide awake (inaudible) -
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Niira: It will be about - it will be about ten thirty-eleven, if that's okay.
Unknown: Yeah that's fine...yeah yeah.
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Niira: I just wanted one clarification from you on Jamshedpur, Barbosa <i> ko </i> Jamshedpur <i> leke chalen kya </i> (Should we take Barbosa to Jamshedpur)? What do you think?
Unknown: No, I think uh, the only thing is that neither Mr. (inaudible) nor me will be there, but organising a visit to Jamshedpur is not a problem at all.
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Niira: Okay.
Unknown: We're getting it completely free -
Niira: But tell him because he's been sending me messages so I need to revert back to him.
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Unknown: Yeah, so whichever way you want, whether before or after, visit to Jamshedpur is something that we can organise -
Niira: After, yeah.
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Unknown: And uh - yeah, and I, I wanted - have you come out of the meeting already?
Niira: No. I just come out - walked out for a few minutes, yeah.
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Unknown: (iunaudible)
Niira: Shall I finish that and then give you a call or do you want to finish it now?
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Unknown: Well, I - it's only one quick one, only, so maybe I can finish it off.
Niira: Mmhmm.
Unknown: It is about this (inaudible) meeting. The meeting, uh, Yatish hopefully - I've put in a word to my colleague Chanakya, saying that we should uh, about the (inaudible) thing - taking into account everything, the meeting is on on the 13th, isn't it?
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Niira: Yes it is, yes.
Unknown: Because I have shifted my programme, I wanted to go to Europe and I was requesting Mr. Baijal(?) also to shift his programme by a day.
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Niira: No no, they are coming, very much, they are arriving on Sunday night -
Unknown: Because I would prefer that Mr. (inaudible) is also here -
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Niira: Yeah he said yesterday when he was there with us to Muthuraman that he'll stay back, Mr. Muthuraman asked him to stay another day, and we will come to your office at about 11:30-12:00, first just between (inaudible), myself, and then we can sort out our nitty-gritties, which (inaudible) wants to sort out, because he's really on my case on his advisory thing, and then -
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Niira: - Mr. Muthuraman said we'll have lunch with Barbosa, and then after that we can sit with Barbosa and have a discussion in case there's something pending, and then Mr. Tata said he's hosting the dinner in the evening.
Unknown: Fantastic, so then (inaudible) I'll have to reconfirm with Mr. Baijal because he was asking me, I'll reconfirm that he should defer his programme also by a day.
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Niira: Great, could you ask him also to send me the questions and the - you were supposed to send me the cleaned up version of the NDA.
Unknown: I'll do - I'll tell him both the things just now.
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Niira: So I can send that across to them, they've been waiting for that, yeah.
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Niira: Hello?
Manoj: Hmm.
Niira: Ah. You called? Sorry. Television was on.
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Manoj: All well?
Niira: I think it went off very well, Manoj, although I am exhausted.
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Manoj: Hmm. Imagine how much he must be exhausted. Same thing -
Niira: Yeah, yeah he was, yeah. You know. And you know, you don't know how many calls I had to handle, my Brazil thing in between, I had to handle like ten things in between, I was going out, oh God, my brain hurts, I got to work on those things now. Shit. Listen, brilliant, <i>haan</i>, brilliant meeting, this is something - I think a lot of it will turn the tide.
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Manoj: <i>Chalo</i> -
Niira: Arindam was - you should have heard Arindam, you know, so he called me back. <i>Abhi yeh na, maine bol di hai usko</i> (Now this, I told him about this), when we were going down he was coming down with me to meet Pradyumal, <i>ki jo bhi ho jaye</i> (that whatever happens) you're going to do this and you're going to continue. You're not going to let me down. 'Cause <i>merese</i> Manoj <i>ko milna doosri baat hoti hai. Tum logon se milna alag baat hai</i> ('Cause Manoj meeting me is a different thing. His meeting you guys is a different thing).
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Niira: <i>Aur yeh</i> issue <i>sirf tum log</i> explain <i>kar sakte ho. Hum log - humko yeh nahin ki nahin aata hai</i> explain <i>karna, lekin yeh baat tumhari hai, tumhari</i> family issue <i>hai</i> (And this issue can only be explained by you people. It's not that we don't know how to explain it, but the matter is yours, it is your family issue).
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Niira: You know?
Manoj: Hmm.
Niira: Anyway, he's understood.
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Manoj: So you met Parimal also?
Niira: Haan, yeah, he was downstairs, sulking away.
Manoj: (laughs)
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Niira: I don't care for these guys, I mean, you know me, <i>na</i>? My interest lies only with these two guys, I'm not bothered about the rest.
Manoj: Hmm.
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Niira: But good <i>na</i>, Manoj, even he was very happy.
Manoj: Very good.
Niira: Yeah, he was very happy.
Manoj: Hmm.
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Niira: I think he's happy at the quality of the meeting, the type of people, you know?
Manoj: Hmm.
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Niira: And I hope you are pleased that it has happened?
Manoj: No no, I'm happy, very happy, I think a lot of -
Niira: He told me to apologise to you for snapping at you but he didn't want to get into the GSMA.
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Manoj: <i>Accha, theek hai.</i> (Okay, alright)
Niira: Yeah, he said, "Please Manoj <i> ko keh dena ki </i> (Please tell Manoj I am) very sorry. <i> Mein usko kuch kehne wallah tha lekin mera matlab hi tha, (I was going to tell him but) I didn't want the discussion to go that way, <i>woh</i> tangent <i>mein chala jaata</i> (that would go off on a tangent.)
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Manoj: <i>Accha, theek hai.</i>
Niira: Please <i>usko keh dena mera woh </i> (tell him I) - I didn't mean to do that.
Manoj: <i>Nahin nahin, theek hai, koi baat nahin.</i> (No no, it's okay, no matter.)
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Niira: You know he's a bit this thing. Sethuraman was watching out of the window when I dropped Anjani.
Manoj: Who?
Niira: Sethuraman.
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Manoj: Is it?
Niira: <i>Haan</i>, he was on the first floor, <i>na</i>, looking out of the window, so I told Anjani, I said, Sanjay, there's Sethuraman watching.
Manoj: <i>Haan? Accha.</i> (What? Okay.)
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Niira: <i>Has raha tha</i>. Anjani <i>ko raastein me subha</i> pick <i>kar lena</i>. (He was laughing. Pick up Anjani on your way tomorrow.)
Manoj: <i>Haan theek hai,</i> okay.
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Niira: <i>Usko poochna, na</i> (Ask him, okay?), he hadn't slept for so many days, I'm sure you also haven't slept for many days so...
Manoj: No no, I have slept properly.
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Niira: So I'm glad I cancelled the morning thing.
Manoj: Yeah.
Niira: I thought, you know, everybody will talk too much and too much this thing.
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Manoj: <i>Haan</i>, it would have been too much of a hurry.
Niira: <i>Haan</i>, and I have to work on my Brazil, I'll also have another two-three hours yet.
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Manoj: That was not a consideration, but it's okay.
Niira: Huh?
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Manoj: That's not a consideration but it's okay.
Niira: (laughs) No, no. But anyway now, this is good, I'm glad we had that. Tomorrow (inaudible) I've told him to be aggressive.
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Manoj: <i>Haan</i>
Niira: To be -
Manoj: (inaudible)
Niira: Huh?
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Manoj: <i>Haan, theek hai.</i>
Niira: Ten thirty.
Manoj: Uh...
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Manoj: He's planning to go back tomorrow at ten thirty, I think.
Niira: Yeah, tomorrow evening.
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Niira: <i>Accha sun, tujhe ek kaam karna padega,</i> Rakesh Hari Pathak <i>ko tujhe shaam ko</i> phone <i>karna padega, dupahar ko</i>. (Okay listen, you'll have to do one thing, call Rakesh Hari Pathak in the evening, afternoon.)
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Manoj: <i>Haan, theek hai, main kar lunga</i> (Okay, I'll do that.)
Niira: And when we are at NDTV, can a Rakesh meeting Niira <i>ke saath</i> (with), Manoj Modi is in town?
Manoj: Hmm.
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Niira: So Niira's suggesting <i>ki tum log</i> (that you people), why don't we meet Manoj Modi, <i>tum log</i> (inaudible) Bazaar <i>jao</i>.
Manoj: Okay, <i>theek hai</i> (alright).
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Niira: Huh?
Manoj: <i>Che baje na?</i> (Six o' clock, right?)
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Niira: Let's see, <i> tum log </i> (you people) since you are here only, Nirav <i>baad mein aa jayegi kabhi,</i> (will come later sometime) PTI, you and Razdan please come to Chambers. <i>Woh kahega mein Batra ko bhi leke aata hoon, tum kehna, nahin aap dono aao.</i> (He will say he's bringing Batra too, you say, no, just the two of you come.)
Manoj: Hmm, <i>theek hai</i>
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Niira: Hmm? Editor level <i>pe baat karte hai</i>. (Let's talk at the editor level.)
Manok: <i>Theek hai</i>.
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Niira: Manoj <i>aaya hua hai</i> (has arrived), he'll be pleased you have come, you put it that way -
Manoj: <i>Haan, haan, theek hai.</i>
Niira:- unless you want me to call.
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Manoj: <i> Nahin nahin, </i> (No no), I'll do that, why should you?
Niira: Yeah?
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Manoj: <i>Accha woh </i> TCA...TCA Srinivasan Raghavan wanted Manoj Modi to come to BL and address the whole bureau and all, I said it will be nice if we can do this, you know, with a limited set. So you wanted to get a couple of people, I really wouldn't have a too much of a...this. But since it's the first time, I'd like it to be limited to a couple of guys. And then subsequently if it goes off then we can always do the bureau -
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Niira: Mmhmm. So Ram...Ram has agreed to meet Mukesh in Bombay next week, <i>haan</i>?
Manoj: Very good.
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Niira: Uh, Ram and S. Venu are both coming down.
Manoj: Very good.
Niira: <i>Woh</i> call <i>aa gaya tha, haan</i>.
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Manoj: Very good.
Niira: <i>Accha</i> listen, Manoj, (inaudible) <i>kaun leke aa raha hai?</i> (Who is bringing the -inaudible-?)
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Manoj: Uh...<i>usne bola nahin hai, mein kal baat kar lunga usse, mein usko -</i> (Uh...he hasn't said, I'll speak to him, I'll -)
Niira: <i>Usse</i> confirm <i> kar lena, kaun kaun aa raha hai, haan?</i> (Confirm who all are coming with him okay?)
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Manoj: <i> Theek hai, theek hai </i>.
Niira: Okay, great then.
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Manoj: Okay, <i>aur kya...toh kal</i> NDTV, <i> uske baad uh apna</i>, 9X or NDTV office <i> jaane hai na</i>?
Niira: <i>Haan</i>, in the office, Barkha will be there. And whoever, Pranoy's going to have Sony and all that. And then uh...NDTV Profit <i>se</i> (from NDTV Profit), and um, then uh -
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Manoj: <i>Yeh</i> (inaudible) <i>ko</i> 24/7 mein shift kiya ha, aisa kuch hua hai</i> (This -inaudible- has been shifted to 24/7, something like that -)
Niira: <i>Kisko?</i> (Who?)
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Manoj: Shelly Chopra Arun <i>ko</i> 24/7 <i>mein</i> shift <i>kiya hai, aisa kuch </i> major changes <i> hua hai udhar, kuch toh </i> friction <i>hua hai</i> (Shelly Chopra Arun has been shifted to 24/7, some major changes have taken place there, some friction...)
Niira: Shivnath <i>ko aur</i> Shelly <i> ko</i>? (Shivnath or Shelly?)
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Manoj: <i>Nahin</i> Shelly <i>ko</i>, Shivnath <i>ko nahin, shaayad </i> (No, Shelly, not Shivnath).
Niira: <i>Haan kyonki wahaan</i> husband wife team <i>hoti thi na</i>? (Yes because they became a husband wife team, no?)
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Manoj: <i>Haan, to waisa kuch hua hai, pata nahin.</i> (inaudible) CNBC <i>ke</i> meeting <i>aapko kya laga</i> (Yes, something like that, I don't know. -inaudible-. What did you think of the CNBC meeting?)
Niira: Good. What do you think?
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Manoj: I think Raghav set the tone, and uh...
Niira: Very light hearted, very good. I think it was okay.
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Manoj: <i>Haan</i>
Niira: I think okay. Shirin was okay with you now, <i>na</i>?
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Manoj: <i>Haan haan.</i>
Niira: She was okay, <i>haan</i>. Good.
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Manoj: <i>Raat gayi, baat gayi, woh bhi</i> journalist hai, <i> main bhi PR wallah hoon</i>.
Niira: <i>Haan, nahin nahin, theek hai, theek hai, meeting acchi thi.</i> (Yes, no no, it's fine, the meeting was good.)
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Niira: Nayantara <i>ka</i> phone <i>aaya tha, main tereko kal batatungi uska.</i> (Nayantara called, I'll tell you about it tomorrow)
Manoj: Okay, <i>theek hai</i>.
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Niira: Story <i>chahiye usko </i>. (She wants a story.)
Manoj: <i>Theek hai</i>
Niira: Super. Daljeet <i>ko kehna </i> Prabhakaran <i>se baat</i> - Prabhakar <i> se baat kar le, haan?</i> (Tell Daljeet to speak to Prabhakar)
Manoj: <i>Haan, main kar lu -</i> (Yes i'll do -)
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Tarun: Hi.
Niira: Hi, hi.
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Tarun: Um, so I have this meeting with Sunil Mittal today.
Niira: Hmm.
Tarun: And you have of course told me about um, one aspect, you know, of what he has said about Ratan and all that.
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Niira: Hmm.
Tarun: Anything else you want me to deal with him?
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Niira: Nothing he should come out on his (chuckles) - I know you're gonna tell me that I'm on this natural resources issue -
Tarun: Hmm.
Niira: - but Petrol definitely is one of them.
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Tarun: Yeah.
Niira: So I think he should come out. He should come out and talk about how natural resources have a value.
Tarun: He still continues to be on a different wavelength? On Spectrum?
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Niira: Uh, no no, I think he's on the same wavelength, I think he hasn't articulated it well.
Tarun: Okay.
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Niira: I think he needs to articulate this very well. Because you know, it's time to you know...I think it's time to take the fight...I guess we all have to get rid of all the. I'm sorry, I know you're - you know, Ratan will agree with me, so I'm not saying it only for myself.
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Tarun: Yeah.
Niira: But seriously, the industry's all gone on one side now, and Anil Ambani is on the other side.
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Tarun: Okay.
Niira: Yeah. And I think it's time to do that and finish this off once and for all, you know?
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Tarun: And uh, where is Raja in all this?
Niira: Raja will come under flak, there's no doubt about it. He'll come under -
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Tarun: He's with Anil?
Niira: He's still with - I mean, he's with Anil because he's tried to...I mean, yesterday I told him go to TDSAT, get a judgment clarification done, then I'll give you extra spectrum. Thank God that we were all there in court, including Sunil's people, everybody.
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Tarun: Hmm.
Niira: That we managed to oppose it.
Tarun: Right.
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Niira: And therefore his petition got dismissed.
Tarun: Okay.
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Niira: So Raja is not doing anything, but he certainly is still guiding Anil.
Tarun: Mmm.
Niira: And Anil's trying to use him to go to Azhagiri and get the Fertilizer sector to be compromised on this Gas issue. And it's the Fertilizer sector that needs it the most.
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Tarun: Hmm, hmm, sure.
Niira: So there is this still...I told Raja, I spoke to him. I said you're making a very very big blunder, you know. Because this time - well Ratan's written a nice letter about it, he may say okay, you gave him a dual technology license so he wrote a nice letter which he shouldn't have done -
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Tarun: Hmm.
Niira: But he'll come out and he'll come out very strongly against you.
Tarun: Hmm.
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Niira: So he said, no no no. I said I'll tell Kanimozhi that that's what you're doing.
Tarun: Hmm.
Niira: So he said I'm not helping Anil, why do you think I'm helping him and...so he's still trying to find a way how he can call Sunil a problem...
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Tarun: Right.
Niira: And I've told Sunil that we have to be smart about this, how we handle it. That doesn't mean we have to pay Raja even one cent.
Tarun: Right.
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Niira: But we have to work together on this issue. With...and (inaudible) but Ratan doesn't want to work with me, so how - I said you'll have to make amends.
Tarun: Hmm.
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Niira: And that statement I know has hurt Ratan a lot.
Tarun: Hmm.
Niira: So it'd be a starting point.
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Niira: So I think if he comes out openly and says how this is, that'd be useful. When's your meeting, now, is it?
Tarun: Eleven.
Niira: Okay. Have a nice meeting, and tomorrow you've got Satyam board is it?
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Tarun: I've got, yeah, but I was wondering that if you had time, I - what time would you want to do this, I can reach the Satyam board meeting - it's a formality now, we're exiting the board, I don't want to be there for one day beyond once Mahindras have taken over so PM has agreed to that. So...
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Niira: Uh huh.
Tarun: Tomorrow is a kind of good-bye. Good-bye meeting. So I can reach late or I can go early and leave, whatever. So I was just thinking whether...how are you placed?
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Niira: We could do it...
Tarun: You don't need to go, actually, you don't need to go.
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Niira: No, I thought I'd sort of come with you...but in the morning -
Tarun: I'm happy to spend time with you, because that's always quality time.
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Niira: (laughs) Well, I thought I'd come - I told Vishal so I - but I think the agent was like sort of eleven o' clock onwards, none of these guys that they've appointed...
Tarun: That's fine, that's fine, whatever. You let me know and I'll get out of this Satyam meeting, hmm?
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Niira Radia: Hi
N.K. Singh: Hi Niira
Niira Radia: I just wanted to tell you that I still think HT is a little compromised.
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Niira Radia: We met up with both the editors – Sanjoy Narayan [of HT] and Subu Kumar. Subu Kumar is okay of Mint.
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Niira Radia: But Sanjoy Narayan yesterday... Manoj was in town. If you know Manoj Modi was here.
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Niira Radia And the sense I got from the conversations - and that I see the type of stories they are still carrying...
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Niira Radia: You know they are still carrying that "Govt is not a respondent" in this matter when the Govt is clearly a respondent.
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Niira Radia: Because the other side has circulated, a part of our SLP by crossing out the "govt is a respondent" part by inking it with white ink...
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N.K. Singh: Ah, oh
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Niira Radia: ... and showing it only as an "intervener". 
N.K. Singh: Uh, hun
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Niira Radia: ... And of course the only paper that believes it is Hindustan Times at the end of the day
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N.K. Singh: I saw that piece. And of course it's likely mixed up with the fact of Anil yesterday having met all these guys.
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N.K. Singh: So I think it's not very clear. I mean that story has been (masked ?) as if to say that this is
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N.K.Singh: a) A fact on the court thing and b) Mixed up with Anil's meeting with these guys.
Niira Radia: Correct.
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Niira Radia: But the thing that... what they tried to do was to tell everyone. And they called everyone that govt is not an intervener, sorry, not a respondent and...
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N.K. Singh: Correct No what I mean is whether govt is an intervener or not, I mean the only person who is to decide this is...
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N.K.Singh: a) The govt and b) The court. 
Niira Radia: Correct
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N.K. Singh: And if the court decides that I'm not entertaining you as an intervener.... that's the end of the story but it the court sort of pleads the govt as an intervener, so be it.
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N.K.Singh: These are not matters: a) whether govt wants to be an interferer or not is it the govt's choice.
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N.K.Singh: Second, whether it is entertained or not is the courts decision. Right?
Niira Radia: Yeah but point I am making is that everybody else took no notice of it, but except only Hindustan Times.
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N.K. Singh: Achaa I'm meeting Shobhna in an hour's time and I'm going to speak to her about this
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Niira Radia: Yeah, we were on this discussion yesterday with Manoj Modi, we met up Sanjoy and we took them through everything. We are hoping that they have understood everything but I thought the body language was a bit...
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Niira Radia:... you know still... you can see that they are a bit... and when we asked what do you think we should have done? Manoj said that to them, and their reaction was that the two brothers should merge again.
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N.K. Singh: Their two brothers...?
Niira Radia: Should merge (Laughs)
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N.K. Singh: Oh not bad yaar...
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N.K.Singh: Real good actually. Very good philanthropic advice
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N.K. Singh: No right now I'm in another fire fighting. Because I was likely shut my mind from this.
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N.K.Singh: Because I'm in the immediate issue of what is going to happen to Pranab Mukherjee's announcement on the tax benefit to them on the gas.
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N.K.Singh: Given that he has withdrawn it, in a way, because he has made it applicable only for only for NLEP VIII. Right.
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N.K.Singh: So, this is revenue secretary doing some degree of championship there.
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Niira Radia: Right
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N.K. Singh: So working out a strategy. How to get this back? One of the complications is that, between you and me, Mr Arun Shourie has gone and got himself completely on the other side.
Niira Radia: Yes
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N.K. Singh: Because he has been promised a Rajya Sabha by Tony and co. and I yesterday checked, yes, Samajwadi has 50% surplus votes in UP which combined with surplus votes of BJP can give the BJP an extra ticket and why should therefore BJP deny itself from getting an additional Rajya Sabha on someone else's strength?
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N.K.Singh: But that's the promise given and therefore he was very, very, very critical of this whole gas thing and said in the BJP parliamentary board meeting, day before yesterday. Now whatever he said in that meeting, day before yesterday, is one aspect.
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N.K.Singh: But what attitude BJP will take on this whole issue of the debate on the finance bill, which is beginning from Monday, in both house of Parliament is of vital importance.
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N.K.Singh: Because if large number of opposition MPs and Samajwadi will definitely join in begin to say that Pranab Mukerjee has given a bad largesse... it will benefit only one company
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N.K.Singh: ...then a) Pranab Mukherjee is in the defensive and therefore the question of extending it to... huh... retrospectively goes out of the window. So this whole managing that stuff in a way and also I think, you know, Arun is speaking, Shourie is speaking as a listed speaker in the Rajya Sabha for the BJP but fortunately what we have managed to do is make him the second speaker but made Venkaiah the first. So I don't know what is Mukesh's relations with Venkaiah.
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Niira Radia: (inaudible) had good relations with him.
N.K. Singh: Pardon?
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Niira Radia: I thought PMS Prasad had good relationship with Venkaiah.
N.K. Singh: He has?
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Niira Radia: I thought so
N.K. Singh: Then I'm going to get him flown today to talk to Venkaiah because if he is the first speaker then he already takes a party line then it'll be very difficult for Shourie in his second intervention to take a different line
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Niira Radia: Hmm...
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N.K. Singh: Then we have to orchestrate who will speak. This is an immediate problem right now. Because frankly if this tax thing doesn't go through then that's a major initiative that fails to materialize
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N.K.Singh: ...because he has, Anil has also organized this: a) He tried to controversialise it b) He got the department to make it prospective and not retrospective.
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N.K. Singh: Whereas, really, all the roadshows that were done on the national exploration policy was on the explicit condition and understanding of this seven years tax break.
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N.K.Singh: So over looking all the understanding and ignoring everything and spreading disinformation that seems to have gathered momentum in the last 64 hours. That's their hottest issue right now.
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N.K.Singh: Where we attack this and I take note of what you tell me about HT. Huh?
Niira Radia: No, no problem...
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Niira Rasia: I knew that was an issue 'cause all these queries were coming in. It was pretty bad in terms of... They kept on saying that were going to earn 81,000 crores of benefit out of that you know and that he could have given it to us retrospectively and all that. That's the sort of queries that they've put out in the media.
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N.K. Singh: Yeah that's right.
Niira Radia: We killed most of that. None of that has appeared. So just checking whether...
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N.K. Singh: No, I don't want this to come up in features in Parliament. Because that's the most immediate thing that influences government mind. Because those guys, Like PM and FM are sitting there and several MPs beginning to talk all this.
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N.K.Singh: That influences them in a very immediate sense of the term. Not everybody agrees what's written in so many papers and journals. Whatever is spoken there is directly heard by these guys.
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Niira Radia: Correct. Correct. And the FM's view you on this?
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N.K. Singh: I think having done what he did, he is now unable to undo the damage which has been given the interpretation. So the request made by the petroleum ministry for them to reconsider has been routinely turned down by the revenue secretary.
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N.K.Singh: You see?
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N.K.Singh: So in effect, if that happens, and the revenue secretary (inaudible) we will benefit out of this. Because then it becomes completely from the eighth round. And that means not here or there Where as all roadshows that were done, this was one of the conditions on which the investment came in. 
Niira Radia: Correct
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N.K.Singh: Somebody will have to point out that this was an assurance given in promoting the investment basket and this opportunity you cannot retrospectively curtail an opportunity.
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N.K.Singh: Instead of giving a largesse, this is only sticking to a commitment given earlier. This is the point of view which has to...
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Barkha Dutt: Hi Niira
Niira Radia: Barkha, ek second huh, Manoj wants to have a word
Barkha Dutt: Ya ya ya
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Manoj Modi: Barkha sorry I didn't say Hi to you while I was going. Parimal was remembering you yesterday night
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Barkha Dutt: Oh, he once saved my life once on a plane. You please say hello to him from me. And very nice to meet you Manoj. <i>Kabhi appke paas fursat hoga</i> then we should meet <i>aaraam se</i> without the crowd
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Manoj Modi: Ya ya we’ll meet but Parimal is my cousin brother. I have brought Parimal to Reliance.
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Barkha Dutt: Really, I didn’t know that. Ooh.
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Barkha Dutt: You please give him my regards.
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Barkha Dutt: Tell him I was remembering him. <i>Aur aap kabhi Delhi aaye toh fursat mai agar</i>... not that you have any such thing as <i>fursat</i> but if ever you...
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Manoj Modi: Just so that you know, I never come to Delhi only for this purpose I have come.
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Barkha Dutt: <i>Nahi</i>, it was very helpful, Manoj. It was really very helpful. But then maybe <i>mai aapke</i> side...
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Niira: Tarun hi...hello?
Tarun: Are you in a meeting?
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Niira: No no, I just came out, Manoj Modi was briefing the media. Hmm. Hi.
Tarun: Where are you?
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Niira: I am at the Taj Chambers. Manoj Modi's briefing the journalists.
Tarun: (inaudible).
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Niira: We have a battlefield going on.
Tarun: (inaudible).
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Niira: (inaudible)
Tarun: Now I had a good meeting with Sunil, I spent and hour with him and uh, he is um, he said it again and again and I felt that he was being sincere, that he really wants to build bridges with Ratan -
Niira: Mmhmm.
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Tarun: - so I spoke to him, I asked him about that and uh, he's...as you...he feels he's stepped back from Raja, he's not getting into any - trying not to get into a war and all that. (inaudible) on spectrum, everybody's alright, and maybe this time Raja can't be openly favouring one person.
Niira: Uh huh.
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Tarun: He, he really wants to meet Ratan once, I think, and clear the air with him. He wants to do it face-to-face, talk to him. I talked to him about this Vir Sanghvi, you know, doing this interview. He said, "Yeah, I don't like it, because it's called (inaudible)" and I saw Vijay Mallya, one night ago - two nights ago, and he said he didn't like the programme but he had agreed to do it so he doesn't want to back out -
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Tarun: - but uh...so I don't know, I think it'll depend on you, really, what you can do. To get them together. If you can get Mukesh and Ratan together, with all the history there, surely you can get these two guys together.
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Niira: Yeah, I'll give it my best shot, I think it's uh...you told -
Tarun: - It'll be helpful, you know, it'll be helpful if all three of them are on the same page.
Niira: Hmm. Hmm, hmm, hmm.
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Tarun: He said that uh, Mukesh is uh...not giving clearance for sale to AT&T.
Niira: No, that's right, we're not doing that. Yeah. He's - they've already written to - AT&T is written back, they wrote to AT&T's lawyers, saying that you cannot go ahead with this without taking our approval -
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Niira: - anycase we have a (inaudible), so the lawyers have written back saying we are not in dialogue.
Tarun: Oh, okay.
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Niira: But that's been stopped in any case, because they're not going to allow it. I mean, the (inaudible) will have to work.
Tarun: Yeah, but that's what a (inaudible).
Niira: Yeah.
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Niira: We know AT&T is talking to them, they're just denying it right now.
Tarun: Right.
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Niira: Yeah, the (inaudible) won't happen, Tarun, Mukesh is very clear. I don't think he knows...he wants to...(inaudible). So that's gotta be put to rest once, all the (inaudible) is going to have to take a position on whether it wants to secure it's own assets or not.
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Tarun: Yeah.
Niira: So that's gonna carry on. Others is loot will continue from both sides (?). You told him that I - I've been in touch with -
Tarun: Yeah.
Niira: Yeah.
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Niira: He knows that you and I - that he - that you, that you know I've met him and all that, na?
Tarun: Yeah, I know, and I made it clear that I know you very well and you're...that part, so that there's a relationship there and a friendship there.
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Niira: Hmm.
Tarun: But he was fine with that, he said, yeah, I've met her. No issue. (inaudible). Understand. He says you know everything, how do you know everything? You're meeting my friend! We talk amongst ourselves.
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Niira: Hmm. I mean, basically you and I have common ground ground to bring them together, so that's uh...
Tarun: I think it'll be helpful to (inaudible). Actually, if three of them are together, I think on issues it'll be very helpful to the PM also, you know?
Niira: Yeah, yeah.
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Tarun: So...
Niira: You have to convince Ratan though, yeah. You must send Ratan that letter, <i>haan</i>, that Air India thing.
Tarun: Done!
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Tarun: Done, I did it yesterday, on his personal email id.
Niira: Oh, okay. Because uh, he's -
(inaudible)
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Niira: No no, not yet, he sent me a mail today from - uh, before he took off.
Tarun: Hmm.
Niira: From London to say that we'll come an discuss because, um, Praful and them are pushing that he's accepted when he hasn't -
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Tarun: Yeah...
Niira: - so they're just trying to create the pressure that he's accepted so that he can't -
Tarun: Praful's playing games here.
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Niira: Yeah, Praful's playing games here.
Tarun: He mustn't oblige.
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Niira: Yeah, he mustn't do that. I hope he doesn't -
Tarun: If Prime Minister were to make a personal call, it would be different, but she must have authority. No authority. This is a whitewash for Praful.
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Niira: Correct, correct, absolutely.
Tarun: And you know, Vijay Mallya and Naresh Goel and everybody will be nicing him.
Niira: Hmm hmm hmm.
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Tarun: Make sure that everything collapses in.
Niira: Correct, I agree with you. I told him, that you can do without it, so let's hope...
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Tarun: Okay, take care.
Niira: Has Vishal called you?
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Tarun: Yeah, yeah, he's talked to me.
Niira: He's told you because we're looking at that land within their land and he's organising that part. That was a new thing that came up today, I believe.
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Tarun: So I said there's no fire, you take your time, sort things out, then we'll see -
Niira: No but that bee's going to sting (?) because they already have to maintain that area.
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Tarun: Right.
Niira: And it has to be green, and then it comes to us at a really, really, you know, a concessional concessional rate. Which is really fantastic. We can only - they can only give it to us. Because they have to maintain it in any case, you know -
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Tarun: That'll be great, yeah.
Niira: Yeah. So they're going to do that.
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Tarun: So he'll get back to me.
Niira: Yeah, he's apparently the father's called him tomorrow so that's good, yeah. (inaudible) I'm here tomorrow, so give me a call, if we can meet -
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Niira: Hello.
Manoj: <i>Haan woh</i> Utpal <i>ka woh wallah</i> query <i>tha ki</i> (Yes, Utpal had a query that) MTPC - NTPC - Power ministry is writing a letter to Petroleum ministry that they should give them 2.34 - he asked that 2.43 with the option of whatever happens in the High Court kind of a thing.
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Niira: No no, that is sub judice.
Manoj: <i>Haan, theek hai, theek hai</i> (Yes, okay, okay).
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Niira: Likewise, with (inaudible), <i>na</i>?
Manoj: Okay, okay.
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Niira: Jaiswal <i>ki</i> story <i>humko</i> help <i>hi karegi</i> (Jaiswal's story will help us).
Manoj: Umm. <i>Haan, theek hai. Ki yeh</i> allocation <i>hua nahin hai</i>. (Umm. Yes, okay. That this allocation hasn't taken place.)
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Niira: <i>Haan, haan haan. Par</i> Manoj, <i>ek baat hai, mein tujhe ek baat bataon, yeh jo</i> Anupam <i>aur yeh sab hai na</i> (Yes yes yes. But Manoj, there's one thing, may I tell you one thing, this Anupam and all) -
Manoj: Hmm.
Niira: <i>Agar tum aur mein, aur hum log teen-chaar jane agar</i> handle <i>karle na</i> (Id you and I, and us three-four people handle this) -
Manoj: <i>Haan</i>.
Niira: - (inaudible) <i>kisi ki zaroorat nahin hai</i> (there is no need for that).
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Niira: Is time, because honestly speaking, <i>na, mein jo dekh rahi hoon, aur woh mujhe</i> feedback <i>aa raha hai, ki yeh jo humko - jaise</i> Rohit <i>se bhi</i> feedback <i>aata hai ya to yeh, in logon se, isne aise kiya hai, isne aise kiya hai - hum log jyada tar</i> fear psychosis <i>mein jeete hain, tujhe pata hai na</i>, I always try to break free of that - (...honestly speaking, what I am seeing, and what feedback I am getting, for example from Rohit - this person did this, this person did that - we tend to live with a fear psychosis, you know, I always try to break free of that -)
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Manoj: Hmm, hmm.
Niira: So I do not believe, after what I've seen that nothing is possible without communicating, and I don't think that they're so powerful, ki there are wheels (inaudible) they have great strategies as Vishal puts it, you see.
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Manoj: Hmm, hmm.
Niira: I do not believe that, their strategy is destructive, and you can always counter destructive strategies.
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Manoj: Hmm, hmm.
Niira: So I honestly don't know that, you know, his meeting and (inaudible) or this or that will cause - I don't think so, because I - (inaudible) has been on the phone with me since yesterday, twice he called me, you know, everyone has been in touch. Sukukumar (?) by the way called me this morning <i>haan</i>-
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Manoj: <i>Haan</i>, what's he saying?
Niira: You know, when you - I just want to say one thing to you, that I'm really grateful, and I'm sorry, maybe next time the meetings should be one-on-one, also you know, he says, when you come to Mint, just remember that you're going to have lunch with us.
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Manoj: <i> Arrey wah!</i> (Well done!)
(inaudible)
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Manoj: Madam, <i>bas, woh ek hi hai </i> (just that one thing), I mean what you mentioned in the morning that it's upto reporters you don't get involved because they have a tendency of lee - being leeches, more than anything else, so Kumar and all that is fine, but you know, Nayantara and Supriya are all -
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Niira: I don't need to handle them, but they keep on calling me -
Manoj: <i> Haan, to aap bol do na, ki isse </i> deal <i>kar le</i> (Yes to tell them to deal with it) - you know, travelling or something like that and they will -
(inaudible)
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Manoj: No because it will get irritating after a point of time, I mean, since I handle them on a daily basis, <i>yeh kuch</i> story <i>de do, koi</i> paper <i>de do, yehi chalta reha hai unka </i> life <i>mein</i>...
Niira: <i>Haan, haan, haan, haan.</i>
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Niira: And then I said - I said, "Okay, can I choose the menu?"
Manoj: <i> Nahin</i> (No), okay, TP.
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Niira: Of course you can (chuckles).
Manoj: (chuckles)
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Niira: So anyway, just letting you know.
Manoj: Good good, good good.
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Niira: Keep that in mind, keep that in mind that we do not need that, and so when you meet Vishal now -
Manoj: Hmm.
Niira: - you need to tell him that you know, honestly speaking, our observation is quite different from what we're being told, you know -
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Manoj: Hmm.
Niira: On the ground, <i>tumhari</i> team <i>ko</i> review <i>karna kal</i> (review your team tomorrow), I think we should take some very pragmatic steps, you know?
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai, theek hai</i> (Fine, fine).
Niira: Now let's look at it from, that point of view. Huh?
Manoj: Sure -
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Daljeet: Hello?
Niira: Daljeet <i>ek hi baat, jo tumhare</i> journalists <i>tum</i> deal <i>kar rahe ho</i> (just one thing, the journalists you are dealing with) -
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Daljeet: <i>Haanji</i> (Yes)?
Niira: <i>Tum unko</i> (you)...you know like Nayantara today called me on Amby Valley and all that, I've no problem in them calling me, but if they start calling me for every story <i>toh phir toh galat ho jayegi na, toh tum logon ko bhi woh sunenge nahin, haan</i> (then it'll be wrong, then they won't listen to you guys either, no)?
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Daljeet: No no no no no, that won't happen in the future.
Niira: <i>Haan</i> (Yes), they - I don't mind meeting all of them, but they need to contact...whoever it is, <i>na, jo bhi tumhare woh</i> (whoever they are to you) -
Daljeet: Yeah, sure sure sure sure.
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Niira: <i>Woh thoda dhyan rakhna</i> (Keep an eye on that), but don't say anything to her, so she doesn't get upset but slowly <i>thoda sa woh dekh lena</i> (just take a look at that).
Daljeet: Yeah sure, ma'am, I'll -
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Niira: - She wants clarity, I don't mind giving her clarity, but it really ideally should come through you.
Daljeet: Okay, ma'am, okay okay.
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Niira: <i>Hai na? Kyonki</i> (Isn't it? Because) after all these are your relationships and they should be - and she's a good girl, <i>kab kar rahi hai</i> Tata Power <i>ki story</i> (when is she doing Tata Power's story) ?
Daljeet: Uh, she's doing for Monday.
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Niira: Then you're going to circulate, right?
Daljeet: Yeah, yeah of course. We'll get it run through PTI, and we'll distribute it individually to DH, HT, TOI, everybody.
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Niira: <i>Haan</i>. PTI <i>ko dena. Main jaake</i> Hari Pathak <i>ko milee hun abhi, main</i> Manoj Modi <i>ko leke gayi thi, wahan pe</i> Razdan <i>ko milne ko</i> (Yes, give it to PTI. I went over to meet Hari Pathak just now. I took Manoj Modi there along with me, to meet Razdan.)
Daljeet: Okay...
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Niira: - <i>Aur maine -dekh,</i> (And I - look, )we're gonna give this a try, <i>haan</i> (Yes), we're going to try everything, I'm not going to believe <i>ke</i> Tony <i>sab jagah pahuncha hua hai aur koi kuch karega nahin, yeh mein maanne ko tayar nahin hun</i> (that Tony has reached everywhere and no one is doing anything, I'm not ready to believe this).
Daljeet: No no no no, it's not like that, ma'am, it's not like that, they're getting (inaudible) in the media every second day, every second day.
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Niira: <i>Haan</i> (Yes), <i>toh</i> (so) I'm not prepared to accept all this, <i>"jab humko kabhi</i> Rohit Khanna <i>hame kuch bol deta hai"</i>. <i>Maine</i> Manoj Modi <i>ko bhi yehi bola hai</i> (I'm not prepared to accept all this 'Rohit Khanna says something to us', I've said this to Manoj as well.)
Daljeer: Uh huh.
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Niira: <i>Hum log chaar-paanch jane hain jisko</i> handle <i>karna hai, yeh </i>matter. <i>Aur yeh mein manne ke liye tayar nahin hun ke in log - in logon ke</i> strategies destructive <i>hai, woh kabhi bhi</i> succesful <i>nahin honge</i> (Four-five of us should handle this matter. And I'm not ready to accept that these people - the strategies of these people are destructive, they'll never be succesful).
Daljeet: Ma'am, see, after these meetings that you had in the last couple of two days, yeah? With Manoj Modi and all that, there is a lot of change in the perception -
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Daljeet: - I got a call from Prabhakar Sinha this morning -
Niira: <i>Haan</i> (Yes).
Daljeet: - He said, <i>ki</i> (that) ADAG called him up and they said <i>ki</i> "We have sent you that Mukesh Agarwal <i>wallah</i> paper', and but the papers have carried the story that the government is an intervener and not a respondent -
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Daljeet: And he replied - he told me <i>ki maine unko bola hai ki arrey, tum log paper bhej do, phir mai story thanda kar doonga. Tum log sab jhoot-voot bolte rehte ho, ulte se paper bhejte ho, galat bhejte ho</i>. (that I've told them to send the papers, and I will clear the story. You guys keep lying, sending the wrong story in- )
Daljeet: <i>Main jab tak</i> clarify <i>nahin karunga, aaj tumhari</i> story <i>nahin hogi yahan pe</i> (Until I clarify, your story won't be out today).
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Niira: Hmm.
Daljeet: So I could see that change, just because of that last night meeting.
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Niira: Fabulous.
Daljeet: <i>Haan</i> (Yes), 'cause I met him today this evening, I gave him all the documents that he requires, not all, I mean some of the documents that I already had in my possession -
Niira: Uh huh.
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Daljeet: - and I gave him all the document and he sought clarification on certain things. I could see the change in the perception.
Niira: Very good, <i>toh tujhe jo bhi chahiye na, to agar yeh log</i> respond <i>nahin karte</i> fast, Rohit <i>aur yeh sab</i> uh Manoj, <i>tu mere se lele aake</i>, please, <i>haan</i> (so whatever you need, if these people do not reply fast, Rohit and this Manoj, please come and take it from me, yes)?
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Daljeet: <i>Theek hai</i> (Okay), ma'am, okay okay.
Niira: Aur uh, I want you to do one more thing, like this uh...um...um...<i>mere paas jo</i> Andhra government <i>ki letter hai</i> (the letter I have from the Andhra government) -
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Daljeet: Which letter?
Niira: - Andhra Chief Minister <i>ki jo letter hai</i> (the Andhra Chief Minister's letter) -
Daljeet: Okay?
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Niira: - it's a very very scathing letter, <i>haan</i> (Yes). If you give it to Prabhakar Sinha, but I need - will he give you front page?
Daljeet: I can speak to him now. I can speak to him openly now.
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Niira: Yeah?
Daljeet: Yeah yeah, of course, I'll speak to him openly.
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(inaudible)
Niira: But maybe we'll do it for Monday, right?
Daljeet: Yeah yeah, of course. Can also do tomorrow.
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Niira: No but you take a call but I need prominence on it, you see, it's so critical <i>ke woh...uska jo</i> front page <i>ka</i> impact <i>hoga na</i> (that this...the front page impact)...
Daljeet: Yeah yeah, that will be like uh...
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Niira: <i>Haan</i> (Yes), that's what I really need. But I can give it, but only if I get that commitment.
Daljeet: Okay, I'll speak to him tomorrow, about this thing.
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Niira: Okay, great then, thank you, thank you.
Daljeet: Okay, ma'am. And uh, just wanted to check: Was Mukesh Ambani in town today?
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Niira: Yes he is, at present - he came in this evening -
Daljeet: And?
Niira: Usual meetings <i>jo hote hain aapki</i> (the usual meetings you have)...
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Daljeet: He met PMO and Finance Secretary and all that.
Niira: Yeah, that's right, yeah.
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Daljeet: Okay, okay. Because ET was running and those people have been calling everybody -
Niira: <i>Haan</i> (Yes).
Daljeet: But since uh they've lost credibility, CNBC didn't run that story.
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Niira: Nahin but the question is <i>ki tum bata do kii</i> (you tell that) you don't comment on his appointment -
Daljit: Okay -
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Manoj: <i>Haan,</i> (Yes) Pathak <i>ka</i> call </i>aaya tha, ki woh<i> MDA Law Minister <i>ko milke khatam ho gaya aur abhi</i> Finance Minister <i>ko milne jaa raha hai karke</i> story <i>dal</i> (inaudible) avoid <i>kar do na, kya hai. Bola nahi nahin yaar, kya hai, mereko kal gaali padi thi, to woh dalna padega, theek hai, chalo,</i> no comment from our side (Pathak called, he's put a story that he's met the MDA Law Minister and now is going to meet the Finance Minister (inaudible), avoid it, no. He said no, what is this, I get abused, I'll have to put it, okay, fine, no comment from our side) .
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Niira: Law Ministry <i>mein gaya kya</i> (He went to the Law Ministry)?
Manoj: Uh, Law Ministry <i>ko milke abhi</i> Finance Minister <i>ko milne ja raha hoon</i> (Has met the Law Ministry and is going to meet the Finance Minister).
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Niira: I don't know if he's met Law Minister.
(pause)
Niira: I don't think he's yet met Law Minister.
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Manoj: Check <i>kar lijiye phir main mana kar deta hoon usse</i> (Please check and then I'll tell him not to).
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Niira: <i>Yeh</i> Manoj <i>ko kuch nahin pata tha</i> (Manoj didn't know anything).
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Manoj: <i>Accha</i> (Okay). (chuckles) <i>Chalo</i>, (inaudible).
Niira: Hmm?
Manoj: PMS <i>pe bhi aaya hai</i> (Is on the PMS too).
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Niira: <i>Haan uske saath hi aaya hua hai...theek jaane do usse, koi</i> (Yes, with him only...okay let it be) -
Manoj: Okay bye.

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Barkha Dutt: Nirra?
Niira Radia: Hi
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Barkha Dutt: Now, their saying, "We'll take whoever!"
Niira Radia: Whoever matlab? It doesn't matter Maran or whoever? Baalu or Raja or anything na?
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Barkha Dutt: Ha, now their saying that
Niira Radia: But tell me one thing..
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Barkha Dutt: I've had a long chat and they promised me that Azad will speak to him
Niira Radia: Who? Ghulam?
Barkha Dutt: Ghulam. Yeah.
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Niira Radia: You know, the problem is she's catching a flight at five, haan? Going back. Dayanidhi Maran is attending the swearing in when only Raja has been authorised to attend, so he's gone and told his leader that Ahmed Patel has called me especially to attend the swearing in.
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Barkha Dutt: Ahmed says this is rubbish...
Niira Radia: But I am telling you but this. Karunanidhi's very confused.
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Barkha Dutt: No, but why can't Kani stay also and attend it?
Niira Radia: She doesn't want to attend no because her father told her to come back. She has to follow what her father says, no?
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Barkha Dutt: Let me call Ghulam then. Let me call him.
Niira Radia: Tell him she's leaving at five. She's catching a flight at five.

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Niira Radia: Hi Ganu.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Sorry, I could not immediately call you.  I was driving.
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Niira Radia: No problem, no problem. How are things?
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah, fine. Did you see all the crazy things they were doing today? Ask the media, they will tell you.They were passing on the car numbers to everybody.
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Niira Radia:  Yeah, yeah, we are not bothered with them.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah,
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: ...and telling people ke ye he's going here, he's going there, law minister ke office...finance minister ke office...ye wahaan...PMO..TK Nair... all that
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Niira Radia: You guys are carrying it also, like mad naa
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: You know why and you know who's behind it
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Niira Radia: No no, I am telling you something. You know Ganu, we have taken a decision, Mukesh (Ambani), was in town, he has told us, ignore ET.
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Niira Radia: If they behave like idiots, let them, behave like that, just ignore them. Talk to only those that matter. It does not matter, if they wannaa.. Dev Chatterjee was calling from Bombay and saying all sorts...
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Niira Radia: Barring you, Ganu and Venu and TK, we are not going to... Soma and Supriya  had come, talked a load of nonsense with Manoj Modi, and, quite honestly if ET Now want to behave like a tabloid, let them behave like that.
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Niira Radia: Thiik hai chalegaa...We are also watching
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: An—d, an—d , aaah, I think somebody is passing on information everywhere, I don’t know how or what.
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Niira Radia: like?
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Like, I think who are all meeting Manoj,
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G. G. S.: and like all those things you know. Who's going where. Partly must be leaking from media itself, but maybe I think one should check.
Niira Radia: Well It can't be from my office because no body knows
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: No, no, I dont think so but then...
Niira Radia: Rohini told me that Shankar Adwal was telling but he does not know the itinerary
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Nah, How can ... he himself aajkal ghar se nikaltaa hii nahii hai wo moTaa bhaaii
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Niira Radia: Rohini says Shanakr Adwal was sometimes even planting negative stories against RIL
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: I don't know, I mean he's hardly anywhere in circulation these days
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Niira Radia: Never mind, never mind. Wo Andhra...kii letter once I get it I will give it to you, but not now... abhii hai nahii
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah, yeah, no problem, no hurry.
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Niira Radia: Lekin front page pe aayegii to duuNgii main.. aajkal I don't trust these guys... I wont give if its not front page
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Haan, no problem,  During the day I had a word with our friend...and he said let's have the full details and then we can work on it
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Niira Radia: Haan, but if they don't give me front page for such an important letter, then I am not going to, you know...
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Hmmm. But...that again is unfortunate, you know... because that was situation once again beyond the control of our friends...that was the problem
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Niira Radia: Generally you make sure naa of these things
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but the way things are going the last 3-4 days...
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G.G.S.: I mean there are 20 phone calls I think to Javed, Abheek, Rahul, everybody.... and they are running around everywhere sending people to meet X, Y, Z... whatever, whatever...
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G.G.S.: ...you must have sensed the same thing in Bombay as well.. the same thing is happening
Niira Radia: Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam:  In fact I was thinking that maybe I should speak to you on some other phone number or something
Niira Radia: Why, you think they are monitoring my number?
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: I don’t know, might be possible. I mean some people...I can rule out nothing
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Niira Radia: But Tony and them?
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Haan, whatever... whoever...I mean... whoever
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Niira Radia: You call me on my Indicom, no? I will give you a missed call. I dont know which number to call you on because you on because you got so many numbers
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Now you know the reason why
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Niira Radia: Hmm hmmm.
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Niira Radia: So which number do I call you on? I will send you a missed call from one of my numbers now...
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah this one is ok
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Niira Radia: Ok I will send you a missed call from this number... from my Indicom And you can call me on that
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Sure sure sure. Yeah, yeah right, then I will call you on that and then speak to you
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: I think right now we need to see I think all this will probably...now... I think when the hearing starts... OK, but you know once the hearing (in Supreme court on Gas issue), starts all these things are going to quieten up.
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Niira Radia: Ok, but you need to be briefed. Ganu you have to be briefed on it. You still haven’t been briefed on the whole matter
(inaudible) <i>milaa tum ko</i>?
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Naa abhii tak nahii.
Niira Radia: I don't know what Rohit is doing. I just can't believe it
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Niira Radia: If you are free tomorrow, can you come in and I'll brief you on the whole matter.. ?
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam:Sure, sure I will give you a call in the morning
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Niira Radia: Let us just set up a time in the afternoon and we'll brief you
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Just give me a missed call on this number and I will speak to you in the morning then
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Niira Radia: I will do so right away
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Achha did these people get in touch with you. Shoma [or Somnath?], Jaiswal...or anybody
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Niira Radia: Jaiswal had some stupid story about 40 (inaudible) after that.. and I told him you're being  a bit silly... we are not going to comment now that the matter is subjudice... go and ask the government now...
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Haan
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Niira Radia: They are doing some story but that doesn't hurt us now. Doesn't matter  
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Nahii nahii but I...
Niira Radia: And they got it from Pandey, eh? RNRL
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Haan
Niira Radia: Who are they to decide whether the government is going to be intervener or respondent? (inaudible)
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Now everything is in the hands of the court.
Niira Radia: Hmmm
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: I thought you should know about it, that's all
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Niira Radia: I know the story is happening tomorrow
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Just give me a missed call from your other number and then I will give you a call in the morning.
Niira Radia: thiik hai, perfect
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Jehangir Pocha: Hi
Niira Radia: Jehangir
Jehangir Pocha: Hmmm
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Niira Radia: Er...Congress never said anything about Raja
Jehangir Pocha: Sorry
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Niira Radia: Congress
Jehangir Pocha: Hmmm
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Niira Radia: if you look at the statement that was made by ND-to NDTV by Manish Tiwari
Jehangir Pocha: Hmmm
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Niira Radia: They have clarified very clearly that we have no issue on any minister, we have not made any personal remark, it's all speculation
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Jehangir Pocha: Ya I know, so
Niira Radia: So why is Suja saying
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Jehangir Pocha: Hunh
Niira Radia: This is in his report
Jehangir Pocha: Hmmm
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Niira Radia: That Congress has indicated that they do not want to give telecom to Raja because they have not said that.
Jehangir Pocha: I know baba, everyone...I'll tell them again yaar, everyone has been saying that na. I will clarify with them.
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Niira Radia: Na na but everyone stopped it ya but then... (indiscernible)
Jehangir Pocha: I know, I'll tell them, I'll tell them
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Niira Radia: talk about CVC and all that.
Jehangir Pocha: I'll tell, okay, I'll tell
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Niira Radia: ya because this is, this is, there are
Jehangir Pocha: I'll-
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Niira Radia: There are plenty of Congress ministers who also have (indiscernible)
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Jehangir Pocha: This has just come out na. you know how it is, they must be still working. I will tell them again. They are a new shift. I'll tell them.
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Niira Radia: Ya okay
Jengair: Hunh
Niira Radia: Sorry to disturb. Bye

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Ranjan Bhattacharya: (Coughs) Hi!
Niira Radia: You're not well?
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: I have a cough.
Niira Radia: Oh, dear me.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: (Coughs)
Niira Radia: Your friend Sunil Mittal...
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Hmmm...
Niira Radia: He's lobbying against Raja.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: He's lobbying against Raja?!
Niira Radia: And he's pushing Maran.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Sunil to just arrived last night.
Niira Radia: <i>Nahii</i>, he was working in the background.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>Achha</i>, because he called me yesterday... day before... he actually was in London, he just met my daughter, he asked me are you also there? I said, don't be silly <i>yaar</i>. <i>Achcha</i>. So he's lobbying against Raja for Maran?
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Niira Radia: <i>He's making a mistake because woh Cabinet mein Telecom to siraf Raja ke paas jayega.</i> [In this Cabinet, Telecom is only going to go to Raja]
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: But tell me - ah, how is the PM reacting? Because till this morning...
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Niira Radia: PM has said nothing on this - it's just Navika Kumar who has gone overboard on the say-so of Virat Bhatia, vis a vis Maran and Sunil Mittal.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: No no, say it again, sorry?
Niira Radia: You see Navika in Times Now is working on the DL for Virat Bhatia.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Who is Virat Bhatia?
Niira Radia: Viraj Bhatia is an AT&T guy, and also he used to be the pointman for Maran in Delhi.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Oh that tall boy?
Niira Radia: Tall boy.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Ah.
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Niira Radia: So he's always been Maran's PR machinery when Maran was candidate, (inaudible)
Ranjan Bhattacharya: I see, no but...
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Niira Radia: He introduced him to all his relationships to the Telecom journalists.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: But tell me... He's the... not the old man... the final authority on...?
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Niira Radia: He is, but the Old Man's got stuck. I'll tell you what he did. He's sent five names to Congress on Monday, which was Railways for Maran, Power for Baalu, Telecom for Raja, Surface (transport) for Azhagiri...
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: For what? Who?
Niira Radia: Surface for Azhagiri, his son...
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Ah, Azhagiri...
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Niira Radia: And Health for Kanni, and he'd indicated that Kanni can be Health or Environment and Forests in the independent capacity.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: MoS, huh?
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Niira Radia: MoS. He knew that Railways would never get accepted and he knew that Power would not get accepted.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Okay.
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Niira Radia: He'd also given the indication that he was under pressure from his family.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: (chuckles)
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Niira Radia: So one is committing suicide in one house, another is committing suicide in another house. And I would have thought that the Congress would have been a bit more smarter, by not pushing Maran's case all by themselves.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Right.
Niira Radia: So all this media blitz that they didn't do anything about from day one, they made this case for Raja and Baalu.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Hm...
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Niira Radia: But as far Karunanidhi was concerned he cannot say no to Raja, because Raja is a Dalit.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yeah, yeah
Niira Radia: He needs to bring him into the Cabinet.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: No, and plus everyone else will say <i>saale khaalii apne parivar ko de diya aur kisii kaa kuchh kiyaa nahii...</i> [Everyone will say you took your share, gave it to your family and as for everyone else...]
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Niira Radia: Hanh, and <i>Raja uskaa aadmi hain.</i> [Yes, and Raja is his man] All the sons like him, everybody likes him, amenable hain to the party and most trusted aadmii hai. <i>Usko kaun nikalenge?</i> [Who will remove him?]
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Right.
Niira Radia: <i> Woh jyo bhi karle, Sunil Mittal jo bhii kar le, usko koi nahi nikalenge. </i>[Let him do anything. Nobody will remove him.] To which Karunanidhi told Ghulam Nabi Azad, Raja will be my Telecom IT Minister, Prime Minister said I have no problem with that.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Mmhmm.
Niira Radia: When all the blitz was going on, yesterday I spoke to Karunanidhi, I said why are you doing this?
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Mmm.
Niira Radia: <i>Sunil ka naam tho aa hi gaya.</i> [Sunil's name came up]
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Mmhmm.
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Niira Radia: A lot of people don't want him, and all that, this that and the other. Then I made Barkha call up Congress, and get a statement from Congress whether the Prime Minister had actually said he doesn't want Baalu and...
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yeah, yeah.
Niira Radia: She carried that he had never said it.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yes, I read that.
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Niira Radia: Now the Congress has issued another statement saying that they're not talking, they never really talked about people.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Mm mm.
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Niira Radia: The problem is that Azhagiri is a pretty large, big leader from the South.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yeah.
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Niira Radia: You know he himself carries a lot of weight in the party.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Niira Radia: (inaudible) Baalu <i>aur</i> Raja <i>ko keh raha thaa</i> that if Baalu and Raja get Cabinet, I have no problem getting MoS.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Who - this is Azhagiri?
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Niira Radia: Azhagiri. And Kanni and I can both be MoS. I have no problem, provided it is not Maran.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: It is not Maran. Right.
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Niira Radia: If Maran becomes Cabinet, then I must get Cabinet, that is why you got four.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Mm, mm.
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Niira Radia: And the problem is that... But Congress is stupid - they should have just given a message very very clearly.... it's Karunanidhi's fault. That -
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Niira, just hang on, you're breaking up, I'm going through this area, one minute. (pause) Hanh, can you hear me?
Niira Radia: Ha, I can hear you.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>Ruko, TuuT rahaa hai... ek minute ruko, ek minute ruko.</i> (Wait a minute... wait a minute..)
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Oh okay, so let me understand what you are saying... the family guys are okay to get MoS, more or less.
Niira Radia: Both the...
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Provided, provided this Maran boy does not get cabinet... right?
Niira Radia: Correct, correct.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: And they are best, there are people outside the family and outside the Congress who are pushing for Maran, right?
Niira Radia: And Sunil Mittal's name is one of them.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Listen I, I mean talking to Sunil is no point because obviously he has got this thing. Between you and me, I have a great line to Ghulam Nabi, for whatever he counts.
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Niira Radia: I have been sending him a message since morning, I told Mukesh also to speak to him and tell him to speak to Kani, because Kani will take him directly to her father. They really spoiled it for themselves because they could have got away with two cabinet berths.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>Ab unke teen dene paRenge</i> (Now he will have to give three)
Niira Radia: <i>Ab teen dene paRenge. Yeh Baalu ko bhi drop karvaa sakte thhe kyuunki unhe keh sakte thhe Theek hai</i> (Now they wiill have to give three. They could have dropped Balu and said Okay, now they have to go through the whole process of three.
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Niira Radia: They will have to be... again this whole argument that will happen, <i>ke tiin mein kaun include ho</i>.(about who should be included in the three..<i> Raja include hogaa, Azhagiri include hogaa</i> (Raja will be included, Azhagiri will be included)
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Niira Radia: <i>Maran ko include karenge, toh baki tumhaare Tamil leaders jo is baari elections jiit ke aayenge voh kahenge hamara kya hogaa?</i> (If they include Maran then the other Tamil leaders who will win the elections this time will say what about us!)
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>I mean exactly aur yeh toh biich mein bhag gayaa thha</i> (He ran away in the midst !)
Niira Radia: Maran was the big challenge, and not because I do not like the guy, but genuinely that was a big problem.
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Niira Radia: Maran kept on saying that both Ghulam Nabi Azad and Ahmed Patel have said to him that he, they want him to be in the Cabinet and that he is the only who is an acceptable face.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: I do not think. How can a Congress guy, I mean if somebody had told me PM has said it or Sonia said it... How can a Ghulam Nabi Azad or Ahmed Patel insist on [it]? It is like saying <i>aapke ghar mein main tai karun</i> (I decide in your house)
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Niira Radia: <i>Unhone insist nahiin kiyaa hai, unhone kahaa hai humko Congress ko kya acceptable hai woh hai Dayanidhi Maran</i>, (They did not insist. They said what is acceptable to Congress is Dayanidhi Maran) so Karunanidhi got awfully confused.
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Niira Radia: The second thing that came up with Congress... said well but Karunanidhi took Maran with him to the UPA meeting, that is because Kani had disappeared somewhere else, visited somewhere else, and he does not consider <i> woh toh Chennai mein kissi ko bhi apne saath le jaata hai</i> (He takes anyone alongwith him to Chennnai)
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Exactly, aisaa kyaa hai, <i>usse koi angrezi, ungrezi samajhne waala bhi chahiye</i> (He needs someone who understands English too.)
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Niira Radia: <i>Toh usko isliye le ke gayaa thha kyuunki Baalu nahin thha. </i> (He took him along because Balu was not there) Kani was not available. Well, he had not, and no one person has been appointed to negotiate, Maran is not the point person to negotiate.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>Achcha aisa hai, yeh toh abhi jaa raha hai apni swearing-in pe, meri abhi kisi se baat hui toh Ghulam, GNA, is being sworn in, naa</i> [It is like this, he is going for his swearing-in, I just spoke to someone, Ghulam, GNA is being sworn in, no].
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Niira Radia: What is he getting?
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Bhai, they are not admitting it, mil toh raha hai aur usko liya bhi iss liye jaa raha hai, he is getting Parliamentary Affairs basically.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Being a senior guy, he will be basically Parliamentary Affairs Minister... only has job for three months, <i>nau mahiine kya karegaa</i> (What will he do for 9 months). So he is lobbying for something, but <i> abhii tak inhone tai toh nahin kiya</i> (But they haven't decided as yet.
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Niira Radia: Tell them to give him aviation, Praful ko baahar rakho
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Ranjan Bhattacharya:<i> Nahin, Praful ne toh raat ko itna drama kiyaa; apparently, they toh at midnight jaa ke Praful ko aviation bolaa hai, par Praful ki aaj swearing-in nahin hai</i> (Praful did a lot of drama last night, so at midnight he has been told about aviation, but he is not swearing in today)
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Niira Radia: Yeah, I know that.
Ranjan Bhattacharya:<i>Inki sabki Tuesday ki hai.<i> (Theirs is on Tuesday)
Niira Radia: MoS hai.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: MoS hai, independent.
Ranjan Bhattacharya:<i> Aur mujhko Ramesh Sharma called up bahut achcha hai hamare Anand Sharma ho rahein hain, my information is Anand Sharma nahin hain</i> (Ramesh Sharma called up to say its great that its Anand Sharma but my information is that Anand Sharma isn't the one)
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Niira Radia: <i> Anand Sharma hai isme</i> (Anand Sharma is there)
Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>Nahin hai, yeh sab media ne...</i>(No all this is by the media..)
Niira Radia:<i>Mujhe Mukesh ne bola</i> (Mukesh told me)
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Ranjan Bhattacharya:<i>Chalo dekhte hain, mere ko nahiiN lagtaa hai</i>(Let's see, I don't think so)
Niira Radia: Elevated to Cabinet.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>Nahin, Cabinet, par abhii aaj uskaa abhii media chalaa rahaa hai at least tiin ghante pehle tak naa usko chithhi aai thhi, naa Mukul Wasnik ko chithhi aai thhi</i> (But the media is still running his.. atleast three hours back he didn't have any letter.. Mukul Wasnik got a letter)
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Niira Radia: Achcha
Ranjan Bhattacharya: But I don't know.
Niira Radia: ...
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: So is Mukesh happy with...?
Niira Radia: Very happy.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: (Laughs) You know what he told me.
Niira Radia: What?
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: He tells me, he says, you know, he is in his usual style, kya kyo, I told him 'Mera chhodo, kya kyo, aapko kya hai
Niira Radia: Hmm
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: He says, Sir, theek hai. I said, Mukesh, once in a while show some bloody emotion. Aapka to sab kaam ho gaya (all your work's been done).
Niira Radia: Hmm.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya:<i> Motu nahin aaya, yeh nahin hua</i> (fatty didn't make it). He replied, 'Haan yaar, you know Ranjan, you're right, <i> ab to Congress apni dukaan hai</i> (now the Congress is our shop).'
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Niira Radia: (Laughs) Why has Bhardwaj not come in?
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Who?
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Niira Radia: Bhardwaj?
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Who is not coming, sorry?
Niira Radia: Bhardwaj, Bhardwaj
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: I cannot understand, sorry.
Niira Radia: Bhardwaj, law minister.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Bharadwaj! Oh yeah, he has done such a lot of kabaaRaa, and especially in those two cases now where CBI then botched it up in both the DA ke assets. These are all under law ministries' instructions, so they are pretty pissed off with him.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: I think they are also now getting in the core guys and then the youngsters, but now I wonder who will get law; will Kapil get it, I dunno?
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Niira Radia: I wonder, I wonder, maybe Kapil only.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Um, hmm?
Niira Radia: Maybe Kapil.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: But <i>lawyer toh wohi hai par</i> (But he is only the lawyer)
Niira Radia: Oh yes. No, Ranjan, when you speak to Ghulam, you should tell him that they really messed it up, haan?
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: No, so now basically you want me to convey ki <i>aap Kanimozhi ke through jaa ke buddhe ko seedha milo, yai hai na.</i> (Through Kanimozhi you go and meet the old man, right?)
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Niira Radia: <i> Agar tum log jo list tumhe bheji thhi uspe agar Baalu or Maran ko mana kar dete toh tumhaaraa problem solve ho jaataa</i> (If you would have refused Balu or Maran as per the list that had been sent to you then the problem would have been solved).
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: <i>Bhai, ab toh woh nahin hua toh ab kya karna hai</i> (That didn't happen so what to do now?)
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Niira Radia: Abhi unko Kanimozhi ke paas they have to call her and go directly and meet Karunanidhi. They have to relay two things, they do not want to give infrastructure to Baalu or Maran.
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Niira Radia: They have no issue where Raja is concerned, kyuunki unhe pataa hi hai even if they have an issue, the old man is going to bring Raja; he is very clear about that.
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Niira Radia: So don't antagonise him, because he has got Dalit as now they will have to give Azhagiri one, Raja one and one maybe they will give to another leader from Tamil Nadu,
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Niira Radia: or they will, just so that they keep this whole controversy out, they will give it to Baalu only, and then drop Maran altogether and give Kani an independent charge.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: So Azhagiri independent charge or Cabinet, they are okay with it.
Niira Radia: Azhagiri in Cabinet because <i> tiin ho gayaa toh Azhagiri ko denaa hi paRegaa</i> (As it is three they will have to give Azhagiri)
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Okay, but this will happen only late, it will only happen late night.
Niira Radia: Yeah, but if they keep Maran out, maybe they will be able to still get away with two.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Oh, okay.
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Niira Radia: Which will then make this guy come out quite well ... Karunanidhi, saying, 'Forget about what the channels are saying about me, or Jayalalitha is saying, both my children are taking MoS independent and I am bringing Baalu and Raja to be the cabinet ministers, they are not my family.'
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Okay, now listen, I mean GNA channel is there, if I send word straight to SG, is that better?
Niira Radia: SG is... kaun? (Who?)
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: (Laughs) SG is SG boss.
Niira Radia: Oh, beg your pardon, sorry I didn't get, haan yeah, yeah, <i>bhijwaa doh</i> (Send it !)
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: Because that then I can achieve in the morning. I am meeting somebody.
Niira Radia: <i>Par tum isko GNA ko bhi bol doh</i> [you tell this to GNA as well], he is handling Tamil Nadu.
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Ranjan Bhattacharya: I know, okay.
Niira Radia: Tell him they are being misled by this guy Maran.
Ranjan Bhattacharya: Okay.

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Barkha Dutt: Ha, not true!
Niira Radia: I don't know where she's (Navika Kumar from Timesnow) getting this from?
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Barkha Dutt: No, but the thing is it fits with the Congress formula. So it might be a...
Niira Radia: Congress is already...
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Barkha Dutt: No, you see Congress's only condition is ... DMK should not get surface transport, beyond individuals. Right?
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Niira Radia: Correct, correct, and they are not individuals. Let me tell you one thing's for sure. 3 plus 4 was yesterday; because of Maran, they wanted to make it 4 plus 3.
Barkha Dutt: Okay!
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Niira Radia: So, now it is back to... 3 plus 4 was already what was on the table!
Barkha Dutt: No, so why does this formula not sound right then?
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Niira Radia: Because of Azhagiri naa! He's not got cabinet.
Barkha Dutt: Oh, Azhagiri got what, according to these things?
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Niira Radia: You see, according to her, he's got Health, but he can't be cabinet. Either Maran is not cabinet, either Raja is not cabinet or Baalu's not.
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Barkha Dutt: Azhagiri's got Health and that's a big compromise by Congress because they said we won't give them Health. So that's their face saver. No, but Azhagiri, Health can be cabinet?
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Niira Radia: Agreed, but then Raja is MoS.
Barkha Dutt: Raja is MoS!
Niira Radia: Then is Baalu MoS? Nahin ho sakta.
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Barkha Dutt: Nahin, nahin, nahin, if Baalu gets Heavy Industries and ... Baalu gets chemicals and fertilizer; Azhagiri gets this thing – Health.
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Niira Radia: Maran gets Telecom and IT.
Barkha Dutt: Maran gets Telecom and IT. Raja gets demoted.
Niira Radia: Who gets...?
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Barkha Dutt: Raja? Nahin hoga! [Won't happen] haha
Niira Radia: I am telling you nahin hai (laughing). Trust me, nahin hai. Trust me, nahi hai [It's not]
Barkha Dutt: Achcha, theek hai.
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Niira Radia: <i>I'll tell you what is... paanch minute pehle... main tumko ek baat batati hu. Kya hogaya hai. Ek baat hogayii. Ye teeno Baalu, Raja aur Maran ko hatake, teen naye faces le a ayenge</i> [Five minutes back... let me tell you what has happened. One thing has happened. They will remove Baalu, Raja and Maran and get three new faces]
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Barkha Dutt: So this is not true basically, na?
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Niira Radia: I don't know where they are getting it from? I've been telling Navika Kumar that you've gone hammer and tong. And Maran doesn't even want IT by the way. Maran wants coal and mine.
Barkha Dutt: I heard that Maran coal and mine...

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Shankar: Hello.
Radia: Hi...am fine... now he's running a very nice ticker.
Shankar: <i>Haan</i> (Yes) I know that...
Radia: Ok... I think.
Shankar: But why are they running it?
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Radia: I told her...I told her, I said you know you should have a sense of humour...I said I didn't know you were a comedy channel.
Shankar: Ok...ok.
Radia: <i>Woh toh keh rahi hai ki</i> (She is saying that) they've got confirmed sources of Congress.
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Shankar: <i>Toh</i> Congress <i>ka toh lena dena hi nahi hai...</i> portfolio <i>se</i> (The Congress has nothing to do with the portfolio.)
Radia: I told her that...what is it got to do with Congress?
Shankar: <i>Woh toh yehi bolenge ki DMK se lage hue hai</i> (They will talk about being connected to the DMK)...Ok, ok.
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Radia: <i>Haan... kuch bhi lage hue hai... kuch bhi lage hue hai... kuch bhi inko... kya ahi hai... pata nahi koun karva raha hai itna jyada... wohi hi hai aur koun ho sakta hai... hai na?</i> (Yeah...they are into meaningless stuff... they are doing nonsense...they have no peace... dont know who's got them into doing this... it's him... who else can it be?)
Shankar: <i>Haan</i> (Yes).
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Radia: I haven't seen him at the swearing in.
Shankar: <i>Kaun</i> (Who)?
Radia: <i>Yeh...Maran ko</i> (This... Maran).
Shankar: <i>Haan, haan, haan.</i> Vaz <i>ko toh maine dekha tha bhi</i> but I didn't see him. (I saw Vaz but I didn't see him.)
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Radia: <i>Haan...kya bola?</i> (Yes...what did he say) when you spoke to Vaze?
Shankar: <i>Nahin</i>(No), he said: ok fine.
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Radia: What did... but what did he tell you finally?
Shankar: No, no. He is basically clear...<i> dekho asal mein</i> (look, in reality) even his boss also wants him to go to Telecom.
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Shankar: Because of this whole controversy...
Radia:Hmm.
Shankar: It is backfiring on basically Maran.
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Shankar: Now, leader, he says he's feeling <i>ki</i> (that) if now... if he doesn't become... it will look that PM didn't basically want him whereas PM has officially communicated...conveyed that...
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Shankar: Raja is ok with telecom with me. So there is no issue <i>ab</i> (now) that is the only thing.
Radia: Hmm.
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Shankar: <i>Usme toh koi issue hai hi nahi. Ab kal jake dekho kal meeting karenge... kya karenge... pata lagega</i> (So there is no issue in that... now go and check out the meeting tommorow... when they hold a meeting tommorow... we'll know what is happening.)
Radia: When is he going to Tamil Nadu?
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Shankar: <i>Woh raat ko 8:40 flight</i> (The 8:40 flight in the night).
Radia: And...what time is the meeting tommorow?
Shankar: That I don't know...
Rada: Ok.
Shankar: <i>Uska mujhe kuch nahi pata.</i> (I have no idea about that.)
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Radia: <i>Chalo! Amma ja rahi hai waha unke ghar pe pahunchte</i> (Ok! let's see Amma is going there...)
Shankar: Ok... Ok.
Radia: Let's see... we'll find out.
Shankar: : <i>Theek hai.</i>Ok.

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Niira Radia: <i>Nahi hai, Barkha. Maine abhi phirse baat ki hai</i> [I again had a talk].
Barkha Dutt: Apparently this story is not coming from Dwivedi[?] but from Chennai... Some section of the DMK
Niira Radia: No, it's coming from.. hmmm
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Barkha Dutt: You see what happened was everybody I know in the congress was at the swearing in. So I haven't been able to speak to the top guys. Now I just finished and I am going to make my set of calls.
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Niira Radia: Kani has just landed in Chennai. Just now. I just spoke...
Barkha Dutt: Where is Daya? Where is Maran?
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Niira Radia: Daya didn't turn up for the swearing in because he was called back, because he went and told Karunanidhi that I have been asked by Ahmed Patel to come for the swearing in. But then the Leader said then you join the Congress.
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Barkha Dutt: (laughs) So now?
Niira Radia: So Raja was the only one who's authorised to attend which he's done and Raja's catching the 8:40 flight...
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Niira Radia: Karunanidhi from the time he's landed has been sleeping. Has been resting. He's got a back issue if you know. And the meeting is going to take place tomorrow.
Barkha Dutt: Ok

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Radia: <i>Nahi</i> (No)... No deal...<i>yeh kya hai na tumhari</i> Palllavi Ghosh <i>aur</i> Navika Kumar (because your Pallavi Ghosh and Navika Kumar) are a bit mad...because you should take it off your head...because actually the deal hasn't happened.
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Shankar: <i>Nahi, nahi, main toh usko</i> Headlines <i>wale ko bola kuch bhi</i> run <i>karne se pehle mere ko puchho</i> (No... I've told the people in Headlines to ask me before running anything).
Radia: <i>Nahi woh run kar raha hai woh</i> - breaking. (No they are running it - breaking.)
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Shankar: Headlines... Headlines <i>bhi kar raha hai</i> (Headlines too?)
Radia: Yes, <i>dono kar rahe hai </i>(both) ... both Aaj Tak and Headlines are doing it.
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Radia: And the thing is the meeting hasn't taken place... they are waiting for Raja to come back tonight and Kani is also coming back tonight... she left at five and Raja left in the - is leaving now after the swearing in.
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Radia: He was nominated to just attend the swearing in... <i>kuch kal 11:30 baje meeting hoga </i> (there is will be a meeting at 11:30 tomorrow)...they'll decide.
Shankar: Ok.
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Radia: We are very clear and Prime Minister is very clear. Prime Minister just reached out to DMK and has said that they have made a reasonable offer. We'll resolve the matter in a few days... obviously, the deal is not done... not done. I know that Kani just landed in Chennai.
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Radia: I know nothing has happened. <i>Yeh lage hue hai </i> unnecessarily (They are unnecessarily upto something). I don't know who's...
Shankar: <i>Theek hai main ek... Theek hai main ek</i> phone chalata hun.</i> (Ok....I'll make a call.)
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Radia: <i>Ek aur baat hai... aur kar lo... yeh ek... </i>There is one more thing...yes do it...one more thing...this Sunil and all of them are very active to get Maran there.
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Shankar: <i>Dekho main pehle se bol raha tha...ki tumne usko - </i> Kani <i>ko bataya ki nahi, ki badmash ne...kya</i> misrepresentation <i>karta rehta hai yeh</i> (See, I was saying that...did you tell Kani how this scoundrel has been misrepresenting?)
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Radia: <i>Ha bol dia...woh sab, aaj toh </i> CM <i>ko bhi pata lag gaya hai./i> (Yes I told her all that today...even the CM knows about it now.)
Shankar: Ok.
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Radia: He went and told Chief Minister that Amit Patel has asked me to stay back... so... then... Chief Minister told him that you join Congress.
Shankar: Hmm.
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Radia: If... that is... this thing... you... I am telling you that you cannot attend the swearing in. Only Raja can attend it.
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Radia: He couldn't handle that...<i>toh usne kal bhi confuse kar dia... kal</i> deal <i>ho jaata... isne jaake bola ke</i> (the deal would have happened yesterday but he went and confused them stating that) - last time we did it in 2004, we should try for it now again.
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Shankar: <i>Nahi woh unke taraf se batting kar raha hai isliye sab lafda ho raha hai</i>. (He is playing from their side, causing havoc.)
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Radia: <i>Kinki taraf se? </i> (From who's side?)
Shankar: <i>Congress ki taraf se</i>. (In favour of the Congress)
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Radia : He is doing it from Sunil Mittal, right?... he shouldn't do that because let me tell you one thing: Karunanidhi's...when I was there at Karunanidhi's house, he made one thing very clear, you must know this...
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Radia: He said because there has been so much controversy on Raja - and he was talking to Kani and of course she was translating - because there has been so much controversy on Raja I cannot let anybody believe that it was wrong, therefore Raja will come back as Telecom Minister.
Shankar: Hmm.
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Radia: And he told that to Prime Minister also.
Shankar:<i> main toh usko </i> I would...
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Kanimozhi: Hello?
Niira Radia: Hello, it's not true Kanni. So why should we tell him, there's no need.
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Kanimozhi: No, no, I will just make sure because he is trying to spread the thing that....
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Niira Radia: No, no, no. Prime Minister has already clarified that the deal has not been, we're still in the middle of discussing, there is no point of...
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Kanimozhi: They have promised to give us telecom, but it cannot now become [Indiscernible] [0:00:34.7] they've already told us they will give us telecom, now it shouldn't be given to him because he is going around planting the stories that....
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Niira Radia: But ignore that, because he was planting it on the channels when you were on the flight.
Kanimozhi: Yes, yes I know.
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Niira Radia: Yes, I know that and then I spoke to Raja, I spoke to Chennai also. I got an input as to what had happened. I went back and told the channels that there's no deal that has been closed, Janardan Dwivedi is the one who had said.
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Niira Radia: Janardan Dwivedi was the one who made the statement that the deal had been closed with the DMK. There is no need for us to travel to Chennai. Then, the channels asked the prime minister.
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Kanimozhi: Yes, yes. That I know. No, no. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying be careful, because it shouldn't, because he's trying to get somebody from the congress say things against Raja to dad.
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Niira Radia: Nobody said anything; the prime minister has not made a statement.
Kanimozhi: Not the prime minister. When they come to meet dad...
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Niira Radia: Agreed. But Kanni, the prime minister has just made a statement that I have no problem with Raja and Baalu, they're my esteemed colleagues. Prime minister has just made that statement.
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Kanimozhi: He can make a statement, but whoever is going to come and talk to dad shouldn't talk otherwise. Because, see, what people say outside and what actually they mean is very different and all of us know that in politics.
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Kanimozhi: You can always call somebody your friend and then come and have a discussion and say, see, I don't want this person. That is for public appearances, we do a lot of things.
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Kanimozhi: So I'm just saying make sure that whoever is going to come and talk doesn't talk against this guy, because I heard from another source that they....
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Niira Radia: Well, okay. Yes, I spoke to Raja also.
Kanimozhi: See, Raja is one person who will say everything is not a problem; everything is okay.
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Niira Radia: Yes, yes, yes. I don't think Congress is in any mood to discuss what portfolio should be taken, they're going to leave it to your father, is what I was told by both the...
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Kanimozhi: No, no. I'm saying all that is fine. But they shouldn't come and say anything, because I'm sure they will come and say something against Baalu.
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Niira Radia: Yes, Baalu, they are saying. They're saying against Baalu.
Kanimozhi: No, but they also want to say, I think, against Raja.
Niira Radia: They're saying they're not going to...
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Kanimozhi: Even one line against him will definitely take more to this guy. Actually they say that we're very happy to give it to Raja, because he did a good job and things like that.
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Kanimozhi: Then it will be, it will work in his favor. Even if they don't go back, it is okay, but if it is going to go against him, one word against him [Indiscernible]
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Niira Radia: Have you heard this other thing from DMK, which is that they're saying that your meeting, whatever, whenever that's going to happen, tomorrow is it?
Kanimozhi: Yes.
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Niira Radia: The DMK meeting, zonal one, that they may just suggest that both, all three males, Raja, Baalu, Maran, should be removed and see new names.
Kanimozhi: No, no, no. I don't think that is happening, no, no. But just make sure of this, one second.

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Manoj: Hello.
Radia: Hello
Manoj: <i>Haan bol</i> (Yeah, go on...)
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Radia: Manoj, I dont have the note you sent of Garima?
Manoj: You don't?
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Radia: No. I just got your last er, coverage.
Manoj:Surprising. Ok... I'll forward it to you in the night.
Radia: Yeah please, yeah.
Manoj: Ok! bye.

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Pal pal pal pal...(Phone rings)
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Niira Radia: Hi.
Vir Sanghvi: Hi, can you talk?
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Niira Radia: Hi.
Vir Sanghvi: Can you talk?
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Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Vir Sanghvi: No, Maran did not meet Sonia.
Niira Radia: He didn't, no? They've gone around telling everybody...
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Vir Sanghvi: He's not met Sonia, he's been, they have refused, they're not treating him as official spokesperson at all. He called..., I saw your message, he is nonstop calling up Ghulam Nabi Azad every half an hour and making new demands and all that.
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Vir Sanghvi: As far as we're concerned there is two wives, one brother, one sister, one nephew it's all got very complicated for us. We've made a basic offer, if Karunanidhi responds to us and tells us that he would like to respond directly, he would like to talk to Ms. Gandhi.
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Vir Sanghvi: He spoke only to Manmohan Singh. We would be more than happy but we're not going to chase them now. We've told Maran that also they have to come back to us and tell us what they think of our offer. And apparently the DMK is getting very bad press in Chennai?
Niira Radia: Mm-hmm.
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Vir Sanghvi: So, he said we're going to wait for two days. Let them come back, we are of the line that this is not a Congress- DMK problem, this is an internal DMK problem because they can't get their act together between all his wives and children and nephews and all of that.
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Vir Sanghvi: He's got to get his act together and nominate one person and we would be very happy to deal with him. We are not happy with this Maran who keeps calling up Ghulam Nabi and saying talk to me, talk to me. They are not taking him seriously.
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Niira Radia: Very interesting. I'm glad of - you spoke to Ghulam Nabi, is it?
Vir Sanghvi: I spoke to Ahmed.
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Niira Radia: Ahmed <i>achha</i>.
Vir Sanghvi: Ghulam Nabi is not very key figure, Ahmed is the key figure.
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Niira Radia: Right, right, right.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. So, Ahmed he says Ghulam has been dealing with Maran. But Ghulam is not our official person and we're not taking Maran seriously. As far as we're concerned they've asked for five crucial ministries, they've asked for five crucial ministries, it's an idiotic and unreasonable demand.
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Vir Sanghvi: We've made them a perfectly reasonable demand. Now, it is for Karunanidhi to get back to us, Kanni come and see us, anyone can come and see us and say I'll put you on the line with my father et cetera, lines are, doors are open to her. But we can't have a situation where Maran keeps calling us and saying I'm the person and telling Ghulam, I want this, I want that, who is Maran?
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Niira Radia: Mm-hmm.
Vir Sanghvi: Maran has gone back apparently today to Chennai?
Niira Radia: Yeah. He has gone back, yeah. I'll tell him to call back.
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Vir Sanghvi: He says, we told him - we told Maran also that we'll deal with Karunanidhi, so he has gone back. So, they are quite hopeful they say, we made a very reasonable offer, we've lot of regards for Karunanidhi, we would like to deal with him. We have no regard for Maran.
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Niira Radia: Okay. That's interesting.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.
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Niira Radia: I better tell them this.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Anything further, I mean, just let me know and I'll take it further.
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Niira Radia: Okay, great. And...
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. And 1:30 tomorrow, you know...
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Niira Radia: ...we meet 1:30, 1:30 yeah, yeah.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Yeah. See you then, bye, bye.

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Radia: Kani, hi!
Kani: Hi! Niira.
Radia: Kani there is feedback from the Congress... is that - this is from Ahmed Patel, ok...
Kani: Ok.
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Radia: He says that look, we recognise that the problem is the DMK internal problem...it's a problem between the family...it's a problem between their own people. We have given...they've given us a list which is of 5 people... it is not acceptable to us.
Kani: Yeah.
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Radia: It is for them to resolve. We've told them what is the best that we can do.
Kani: Yeah. (unclear)
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Radia:Yeah...well we appreciate that the dialogue has broken down but it's not for us to get back to them because we've given them a last and final offer.
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Radia: As far as we are concerned Dayanidhi Maran has been calling Ghulam Nabi Azad on the half hour... and demanding all sorts of things and they have told him very categorically... no point you calling us.
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Radia: We need Mr Karunanidhi whether he wants to meet Sonia Gandhi...whether he wants...it is... really the initiative has to come from the DMK to talk to us...
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Radia: - we are not going to now call you or talk to you unless you are formally authorized by Karunanidhi to speak to us. Then we will speak to you but there is no point calling us every half an hour and giving us any demand.
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Radia: - He has not met Sonia Gandhi at all.
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Kani: But what does he...what demands he's got?
Radia: He's been making the same demands: that you give us 5 portfolios or we will not join.
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Radia: - or give us atleast four and we will not join and he has demanded surface transport...demanded Telecom...he has demanded Railways -
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Radia:...and otherwise he's also demanded Coal and Mines.
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Radia: He has said... they are saying as far as we are concerned... we recognise that this is an internal DMK problem and a DMK family problem. It has nothing to do with Congress at all.
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Radia: Congress has spelt out its position.
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Radia: So therefore the leadership has taken a decision which is why they have not called you and taken... they are all waiting to meet before the swearing in part yet...
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Radia: That they've taken a decision that it is for Karunanidhi to decide who he wants who he doesn't want in the formula that has been provided to him and it is for him to get back to him and tell them what they want.
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Radia: If he decides he wants to nominate you to talk or nominate 'X' to talk or 'Y' to talk that's entirely upto Karunanidhi to decide but they feel that there are far too many people who are calling...
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Radia: ...including Dayanidhi Maran which has been on the half an hour, that's one the second is...
Kani: Who is calling... actually I haven't made contacts...
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Radia: No, not you. I think maybe Balu has been calling also because he indicated that...
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Radia: That even Balu has been calling from Chennai and he also indicated one more thing he said that...
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Radia: ...there was a news report that came out at 7'o clock this evening which said that Dayanidhi got Telecom etc, etc... all that. That's a news report when checked back with Times Now was given by Sun TV.
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Radia: Therefore it's an internal problem that we suspect no point putting it on to us 'cause we are not putting out any such information...
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Radia: So they've really... basically saying: we are not going to call we had a talk and the reason we did not contact you is because we are not in a position to talk...
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Radia: ...we don't know what you want.
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Radia: It's your problem internally first that you have to resolve. The Prime Minister has...(audio unclear)
Radia: No, no, see the only thing is...
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Kani: ...see we just want some initiative from their side because the leader is really hurt about the abruptness of the whole thing.
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Kani: Somebody should come from that side to start it.
Radia: Hmm.
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Kani: Then I think it will go off. I'll also try to convey that message.
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Radia: Yes. Tell them it has come from Ahmed Patel....ha?
Kani: Hmm.
Radia: So they can... you can tell him that very clearly...
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Radia:...that this is a message and their view is that... and tell him that he is concerned... you can check with Ghulam Nabi Azad.
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Radia: He will confirm to you that every half an hour this man has been calling him... and they had to tell him today that we don't recognise you we need your leader to come back to us.
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Radia: I mean literally we had to tell him this...we don't know you...we know your leader.
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Radia: So their side, they aren't bothered about him or who comes in, or what happens. But they will go with the 3 by 4 formula.
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I'll talk to him just now and tell them their abruptness - and see if we can find a way round that and see how we can do...
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Radia: But I think you need to relay this message to your dad.
Kani: No...no... will.
Radia: Hmm...<i>chal</i> (fine).
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Radia: He's with you, no, today?
Kani: I will talk to him in the morning, he's just gone to sleep.
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Radia: Ok. But in the meantime just let me speak to them now, because they are all still awake let me see what they are saying about....there is a... you know... even that will have to go back and check with everyone, no...
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Radia: 'Cause just to get this message back to me because I've been pushing them since morning to speak to you.
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Radia: They... had their own internal discussion first and then they took a very conscious decision that this...
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Radia: ... list of 5 that has given by Karunanidhi was ill thought of, I mean not by your father -
Kani: No...no... but (audio unclear) -
Radia: ...and they said that it has been -
Kani: - casually sent.
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Kani: No... no that was what very casually sent.
Radia: But he's saying it should not have been sent because anything that is coming from him, they take it very seriously because it's him.
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Kani: Yeah, I agree.
Radia: Yeah and so they are saying that... obviously that was an absurd list and... they said nothing on Balu, nothing on Raja, Prime Minister's clarified.
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Kani: Yeah.
Radia: There is no such thing, nobody has made such statement if there are individual leaders in the Congress who have their own personal views then those are their personal views which they can tell the Congress.
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Radia: Let me talk to this one...how did the meeting go? What was the meeting about?
Kani: No meeting, nothing.
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Radia: I thought this evening everybody came... all the people...
Kani: No... no... generally every evening people come over in the evening and they'll be sitting and chatting.
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Radia: All media was standing outside...
Kani: Media's mad ya.
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Radia: Grand discussion that was going to happen and... (audio unclear)
Kani: - Plus or minus, one or two.
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Radia: I know...they are all the same I'm telling you... I know them all...
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Radia: ...they don't have anything else to do. So let me talk to them now, I'll just have a word with him right now... yeah.
Kani: Sure.
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Radia: And see what feedback it is... obviously, please understand that my discussions are all on a very informal basis.
Kani: Yeah... yeah... yeah.
Radia: Yeah, so but please this is what has come from them... I mean... I think...
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Radia: We have to... I think you need to tell him this in its absolute terms what they are saying... they are very clear about it...
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Radia: - they really have a lot of respect for him.
Kani: Yeah... yeah.
Radia: They support Sonia Gandhi and you know, they are very respectful for him. But maybe I'll go back and tell them a bit...
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Radia: ...was the meeting very aggressive?
Kani: Pardon?
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Radia: When you had the meeting, were they very aggressive, was it?
Kani: No. Some party members of course they feel that he is being slighted that is all.
Radia: Hmm.
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Radia: When you went to that meeting...
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Radia: ...when Balu came out and made that statement about outside support... was that meeting very aggressive?
Kani: No it was not, see people can talk once the leader gets hurt everybody gets emotional no?
Radia: Hmm.
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Kani: So naturally that's how they react.
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Radia: ...but why did he get hurt?
Kani: It was very abrupt... see after some more discussion and all that stuff if you had still said the same thing....
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Kani: ...If you had sent somebody and then you know try to talk...I mean, over the phone, and just saying, 'No this is it ,and we can't do more than that'.
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Kani: I mean finally we might agree to whatever it is -
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Kani: - I mean, that is not the only thing... he feels... they dealt with him that way.
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Kani: I think everybody in the party felt that way.
Radia: Hmm... Ok, I will relay that because that's an important point to relay that he is hurt about that... that's fine.
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Radia: I'll do that... I'll do that so they can address that... but you may want to tell them that he has called every half an hour. You may want to tell your dad because he hasn't and they've told him very categorically are you authorised or not authorised to talk?
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Kani: If I say that it will look very bad.
Radia: No, but Kani you have to tell him the truth no? This is the truth.
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Kani: I'll try... I'll try.
Radia: No but you tell him that he's been calling every half an hour -
Kani: Yeah sure, sure.
Radia: He can check with Ghulam Nabi Azad
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Radia: No, you tell him that he has been calling every half an hour...he can check with Ghulam Nabi Azad?
Kani: Yeah... sure.

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Male voice: Hello?
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Nira: Hi!
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Male voice: <i>Haan</i> (Yes), Good morning.
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Nira: Good morning. (inaudible) <i> Congress <i>ne toh</i> statement thank God issue <i>kar diya hai</i>...Barkha <i>ne karvah liya usse statement...</i> (Congress has made a statement, Thank god. Barkha made them say it)...
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Male voice: <i>Haan haan huh </i>... (Ya ya...)
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Male voice: <i>Ke</i> (That) it's not about individuals eh... it's about uh.. it's...
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Male voice: <i>Haan, woh to maine dekh liya usme aa gya na, usme aa raha tha, Manish Tiwari ka...</i> (Yes, I've already seen that, it was coming, the one with Manish Tiwari...)
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Nira: <i>Woh karna bohot zaruri tha...</i> (It was important to get that done)
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Male voice: <i>Haan haan haan...</i> (Yes yes yes)
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Nira: ...because otherwise it is unnecessarily causing...(female voices in the background)... (inaudible) <i>ye apna laga tha... </i> (they've would've got our us..) Any feedback for... I spoke to Minister two o'clock in the night last night...
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Male voice: hmm hmm..
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Nira: ...because aaa.... he said that eh Congress had to call amm..aa.. the Chee .. Chief Minister directly in the morning.
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Male voice: Hmm...
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Nira: ...and tell them about Baalu..because Baalu <i>pe issue tha</i> (The issue was with respect to Baalu)
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Male voice: <i>Accha...</i> (ok)
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Nira: <i>Toh abhi party mein yeh log yeh keh rahe hai ke tum log agar Balu or Raja aaur jj jo bhi hai Maran ye sab chal rahe ke...</i> (So, now those people in the party are saying that if you'll are taking Balu and Raja and who so ever it is Maran etc)...Azhagiri has now put his foot down <i>na</i>...?
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...: <i>Kya? </i> (What?)
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Nira: He's...you see the problem is not what we are all thinking. I had a long chat with Raja and ehh with Kani last night.
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Nira: Azhagiri is a mass leader.
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...: <i>Haan.</i> (Ya)
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Nira: He controls a very large following.
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Male voice: Uh huh.
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Nira: You were saying I'll give him MoS independent and you giving Maran cabinet, is where the hiccup has come up.
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Male voice: Correct correct correct.
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Nira: He's a bigger leader than Balu and all of them put together...
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Male voice: Correct correct.
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Nira: So all the Tamilians got up and said what is this?
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Male voice: Hm.
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Nira: Whatever his following is... there.. local and local MP's and all that and MLA's will support him...
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Male voice: Hmm hmm...
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Nira: ...they said how can Maran be given a cabinet port...
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Male voice: Hm.
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Nira: ...when this guy is being given...So then Azhagiri turned around and said, not only himself but how come Kani is not being given a cabinet port?
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Male voice: Hmm Hmm.
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Nira: <i>..toh...</i> (then...) then.. then he said to his father, you drop Baalu and Maran.
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Male voice: Hmm hmm...
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Nira: <i>...toh woh...</i> (...then he..) uh...any case (inaudible).. <i>Maran ko usne bola ke tum MoS loh... usne kuch nahi bola...</i> (He told Maran that you take MoS... he didn't say anything)...
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Male voice: <i>Maran ne? </i> (Who, Maran?)
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Nira: <i>Haan, Maran ko bola usne...</i> (Ya, he told Maran), you take MoS.
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Male voice: Hmm...
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Nira: He kept absolutely quiet. <i>Uski shakal dekhni thi</i> (One should have seen his face) apparently last night, she's telling me this...she said then, Azhagiri went to Kani last night at midnight.
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Male voice: Hmm...
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Nira: He went to meet her at midnight...
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Male voice: Hmm hmm hmm...
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Nira: ...so... let us see, I mean they've gone back... (yawning)... you know, the minister is going for swearing in...
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Male voice: <i>Haan haan. Huh?</i> (Ya, Ya.. what?)
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Nira: ...but aa...there's a meeting. You minister is going for the swearing in <i>na</i>?
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Male voice: <i>Pata nahi</i> (i don't know) I'll now go to residence...
(Tape ends)
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NIra: <i>Haan</i> (Ya)
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Male voice: Leaving in ten fifteen minutes.
(Call ends ubruptly)

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(Telephone rings)
Vir: Hi, Nira.
Radia: Vir, sorry to disturb you.
Vir: No... no.
Radia: I just spoke to Kani, the thing is that... they've had... this meeting they had... there has been no meeting they have had in DMK today ... it's simply just everybody coming to meet the leader.
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Vir: Right.
Radia: There... I think they have a lot of respect for Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi as well. What she's saying is that the general feeling in the party and the...and that of Karunanidhi is that he recognises it... guess he has to deal with this problem... and he has to deal with it himself.
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Radia: But he feels the manner in which the Congress handled it... in terms that they were very abrupt... they called over the telephone and well this is it and nothing else. I think he also recognises the list that was given, was given very casually.
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Vir: Ok.
Radia: I said but you know any list that was given by Karunanidhi is not treated casually.
Vir: Right.
Radia: It's a very serious thing. You are giving a list of 5 cabinet berths... I mean that cannot be treated casually right?
Vir: Right.
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Radia: So, okay, fair enough. But he feels a little...slighted because it was a very abrupt... if you... he said... his view was... if you had several rounds of discussion and several rounds meaning you could have one or two extra rounds of discussion when you suddenly say ok this is my position...that is fine.
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Radia: But only after one meeting...
Vir: Hmm.
Radia: You suddenly call up and you are very abrupt - that is where he got offended.
VIr: Fair... What about his conversations with Manmohan Singh last night ?
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Radia: It was nothing but Manmohan Singh said only two words.
Vir: Which were?
Radia: That you know we should just try and resolve these issues. Kani was the one who was translating.
Vir: That's right.
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Radia: And we should try and resolve it, let's not you know, let's work through this... then try and resolve it... and he said fine and that was it... It lasted hardly a...less then a couple of minutes.
Vir: Ok. I'll pass this on ?
Radia: Yeah. I think they feel that even if there is any gesture...
Vir: Yeah. They would respond...
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Radia: They will respond very favorably.
Vir: Ok.
Radia: I don't think there is any this thing and he can then decide you know... he'll do it...I think...I think they should at least go back and say we don't...we didn't mean to...you know.
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Radia: We get a sense that you feel that there is... you're offended or something, but I don't think...
Vir: In the sense we will not reply to you... you will have to respect -
(Ends abruptly)

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(Phone rings)
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Kanimozhi: Hello.
Niira Radia: Hi, Kanni.
Kanimozhi: Hi, Nira
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Niira Radia: I spoke to them again whether they would speak to the CM and give him some message, but they haven't taken a call, I think what is being spread right now is that Infrastructure should not be given to Baalu and Raja.
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Niira Radia: When actually what is being said is that it should not be given to Maran and Baalu. So there is also a view that, he hasn't met Sonia Gandhi, I have confirmed that.
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Kanimozhi: Yeah, even I found out.
Niira Radia: He is not met and I believe that he has indicated to somebody that he has met your father separately and had a meeting with him and briefed him on Delhi and your father had told him to quietly have a meeting in Delhi on his own.
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Kanimozhi: No, that's not true. Because when my - he actually asked everybody to leave and he just wanted to have a word alone. My mother, I mean, she didn't realize that, she just took her glass of buttermilk to my father, so she happened to be there, through the entire conversation, he was trying to give [Inaudible] to him saying that it is important, we should be there, what, it's okay, I don't mind.
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(Indiscernible)
Kanimozhi: Hello? Hello? So that is what he said, I mean, he hasn't said anything alone. So dad hasn't said anything. Today, dad has been told that nobody who is actually interested in joining the cabinet should be allowed to negotiate.
Niira Radia: Correct, correct. Absolutely, yeah.
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Kanimozhi: Dad is quite okay with that.
Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah. So I guess that's the better way to do it, no?
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Kanimozhi: He is just lying and spreading...
Niira Radia: No, he is saying that by the way. Because I spoke to Rajdeep just a few minutes ago. So, I asked Rajdeep, I said where did you get this information from? Then he said, look I'm going to tell you something. He said Sun TV is actually working overtime in spreading news to my, all our correspondents, not only ours, but Times Now and everybody else.
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Niira Radia: They are working overnight to just spread information and he said I recognized it last night, they gave us wrong information when they said that it had been done, the deal was signed, you know? Yeah, and he said I recognized, so I'm very conscious of it, but this whole aspect of Infrastructure not going to Raja and Baalu is very dangerous.
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Niira Radia: And I said, look I don't think you should be, Prime Minister has already clarified all this. So then again I spoke to my, the Congress and asked them whether there was any statement like this on infrastructure. They said, we've given the berths, we have not said anything else. Telecom is already Infrastructure. So if Prime Minister has any reservation, then...
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Kanimozhi: See, Telecom is, like we only asked Telecom for Raja.
Niira Radia: Correct, correct.
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Kanimozhi: And uh the day... If they have problems, they wouldn't have given it back to us.
Niira Radia: They said exactly that. They said exactly that, that Infrastructure is Telecom, we don't have any problem with it but what he has done is, he has used that very cleverly by saying Infrastructure is not, because Raja and Baalu are not welcome.
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Niira Radia: I'm the only one now who fits for Telecom, because he doesn't want to go to Labor or Chemical Fertilizer.
Kanimozhi: He doesn't want to go because it's not good for his image.
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Niira Radia: That's right, that's right. So just to let you know that that's where he has used it cleverly and Congress is...
Kanimozhi: You should [Indiscernible]. He is very - see, let us - you should tell them also, Niira. He is the one who is actually creating half the problem.
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Niira Radia: I did that, yeah. This morning, all my messages to everyone went that it's, he is the only one. And I explained the whole Alagiri aspect, that they have to understand that he is a mass leader. And in any case, in any party, priority would always go to a mass leader.
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Kanimozhi: Exactly.
Niira Radia: Yeah, so he is not a mass leader and therefore he is not a priority, he is trying it.
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Kanimozhi: We have other elections coming [Indiscernible] [0:04:06:6]. We do not want to antagonize all his followers.
Niira Radia: Yes, correct.
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Kanimozhi: But actually one thing is you can tell them also, even if they are not happy, you can do exactly what Lalu did. You can get a good MOS under him, who will answer [Indiscernible] he has to deal with, he will answer.
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Niira Radia: Correct. Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I don't think they have a problem with him, by the way. They don't have a problem with Alagiri. Congress has no problem with him.
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(Indiscernible)
Kanimozhi: Hello? No, no, so that is a problem. But this guy is the one who wants Telecom and he is spreading rumors, but I don't think even the DMK is interested in giving him Telecom.
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Niira Radia: I don't think so.
Kanimozhi: Because we've got our own channel and then it will go against us also.
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Niira Radia: But look, Kanni, you need to [Indiscernible] [0:04:55.1] deal with his last mile later on, but we really have to deal with that whole issue because of his blackmail to the other channels, which is the only reason he has been able to do what he is, confusion he is able to create. But you have a meeting in the afternoon, is it?
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Kanimozhi: No, nothing like that. But then whoever is going to come to take over communication, they should come, go. I mean, I think the government should insist on going in a big way about the Dish An- Dish TV, no? Or whatever, or to make sure the entire cable network is open to everybody.
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Niira Radia: No, we're doing that. We are going to work on the policy on, we're going to certainly lobby for it. That the last mile has to be dismissed, we're very, everyone is fed up, all the channels are fed up. I'll tell you that. We're starting that process. We're not - even we all go together on that issue.
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Kanimozhi: Not just in Tamil Nadu, all over the country...
Niira Radia: All over the country. Because you have to be fair, you have to be equitable to everyone.
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Kanimozhi: Exactly. I mean, nobody should have this kind of a stranglehold on, anybody for that matter.
Niira Radia: That's right, that's right. I mean, what Jayalalitha had done against him was the right thing. She had taken it into the State. That was the right thing. But Kanni, your father hasn't decided who the MSB [Phonetic] [0:06:08.5] is going to be, right, for negotiations?
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Kanimozhi: I think they will decide today.
Niira Radia: They will decide today.
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[Audio Gap]
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Niira Radia: This whole thing of wanting extra berth, and how he spread it the last two days is giving you a very, very bad impression. Very, very bad impression. Somewhere on the line your father has to come up...
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Kanimozhi: I think - today, I think it will get sorted out. So better keep it, because I am worried one extra word this way, that way will completely go...
(ends abruptly)

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