G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah, yeah, yeah. <i>Accha</i>, couple of things I wanted to tell you. One, you know that Empowered Group of Ministers on KG gas, it seems to be is going to be reconstituted.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: That I think Murli Deora and others, I mean the way I don't know if they are very comfortable with the confidence in these people in handling that.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: And some of these guys of course will be there. Of course I don't know whether Chidambaram will be there or not, because now Chidambaram is now you know, in the Home Ministry,...
G. Ganapathy Subramanium: so Pranab Mukherjee himself is the Finance Minister. So he will be there; the minister in charge of Fertilisers and Power, likely to be there.
Niira Radia: And when did you, when are they saying this? Where did you hear this?
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: This is what we heard last week, because you know I had spoken to these people in the commerce ministry. They also want one of the EGoMs reconstituted. The one on the SEZs. So where you know they want some changes, the rules that were done by the early GOMs, some of them, to be modified. So they were saying -
Niira Radia: So Anand Sharma will be on this, no, on this EGoM?
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: I don't know whether he knows any damn thing about Gas, but he's Law Minister, probably they will bring him there, because of the court cases and all.
Niira Radia: That's a legal issue again. Sub judice <i>hogaya</i> (It is sub judice). So anyway government - subject to government approval <i>toh</i>, agreement <i>toh</i> (so...)-
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: That's right. And then what the EGoM decided earlier, so much so much for power, so much for fertilisers etc, so now there are other issues, like Andhra Pradesh also like, they want some preference, you know to be given to some of their own units, I think they have made some headway in that also.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: My reporter was saying that so far there is no reply, so I have sent him a reminder that you know please reply, otherwise we'll have to sort of cannot incorporate your comment and all.
G. Ganapathy Subramanium: So but whatever has to be included in the official reaction, let him give, you know, no comment or whatever. But whatever needs to be incorporated into it, whatever will be useful, you let me know?
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: <i>Haan</i> (Yes), that I will then - whatever the reporter has sent, let it be there, <i>naa</i>? I will later on go and change it.
Niira Radia: Mmm-hmm.
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: So what you can do is, whatever, I mean whatever are the stumbling blocks, what are the things that needed to be done to get it going you can tell me, you know that way?
Niira Radia: Mmm-hmm. Okay. Okay I'll have a word with him. I guess I think they may not have responded because it's a bunch of negative questions, I think.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Is it a very large questionnaire?
Niira Radia: Yeah, about five page - about five or six questions.
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Oh, I see. So let me see, the only way I thought it could be turned was, you know, by turning it on its head saying,...
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G. Ganapathy Subramanium: ...these are the things which needs to be done, and if it is done so much employment will be generated, so much - whatever - economy will benefit etc, etc.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah yeah. And I read the court papers, that specific para that you mentioned. It says very clearly that wherever needed, I mean despite, after everything, if there are approvals required so then they have to...the onus is on them to go and get it.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah yeah, but, when he has given a judgement he has given it. So I think the only way to get it rectified is to go to the Supreme Court.
G. Ganapathy Subramanium: ...or the government should in the meanwhile issue an ordinance or something and say now we are going with this. We are not bothered with what you have done.
Niira Radia: Mmm, hmm, hmm. Correct.
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Then that ordinance has to be then followed up with a legislation.
Niira Radia: Mmm, hmm, hmm. And I think that's going to happen because everybody has gone up in arms, Left front, everybody. Everybody knows that Anil is up to his usual tricks.
Niira Radia: What are they doing there, no? Are they around, what are they doing?
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Who?
Niira Radia: The other side.
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Ahhh...they are just so they are just waiting, waiting, waiting. They got the Bombay lobby to push Ghulam Vanavati, so that is done.
G.Ganapathy Subramanium: Like, earlier they were going and getting all kinds of reports assigned by the earlier (inaudible). So they will try and do with this guy also, give convoluted, confusing kind of opinions and all that.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah yeah. All the same he has been appointed, no. And again it will all depend on what Murli Deora and Pranab Mukherjee say.
Niira Radia: Mmm.
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G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: More than anything else.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Hmm. Then it is better if they take opinion from somebody else, maybe from Subramanian or whatever. From the Solicitor General then. Not necessary that they need to go to the AGI.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Let's see. So I think there's a lot of time left, this is not going to be something that will happen in a day or two, this is going to take I think may be, six months or something?
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Yeah yeah yeah. If it is and after that also, whatever the government view is. Will they go for there are precedents in some cases.
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G. Ganapathy Subramanium: Even after Supreme Court judgment they have gone for ordinance and then later some kind of a legislation. That is there and but in the case of ITC, they did that.
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G. Ganapathy Subramanium: You know, Chidambaram, when he lost that cigarette case, he went and opted for an ordinance, but then later on, I think they just quietly dropped it.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Please tell Manoj that if he sends a mail and then if you are you know, give me informal information and then I will jump into it and, you know, sort of, sort it out.
G. Ganapathy Subramanium: And then now into the EGoMs, I'm separately tomorrow getting something done on all the EGoMs which are going to sort of be reconstituted.
G. Ganapathy Subramanium: So which will include this as well. So while doing that if there are very brief points which we mentioned why this EGoM is critical, if it is going to be of some use, you tell me.
G. Ganapathy Subramaniam: Some couple of points on, you know, saying why in this EGoM will have a very critical role to play, you know, in terms of defending government's position etc.
