radiaSRT/srt/82 Prabhu Chawla Jun 20 2009 14 32 07.srt
2011-12-22 18:04:02 +05:30

538 lines
23 KiB
Plaintext
Raw Blame History

This file contains invisible Unicode characters

This file contains invisible Unicode characters that are indistinguishable to humans but may be processed differently by a computer. If you think that this is intentional, you can safely ignore this warning. Use the Escape button to reveal them.

This file contains Unicode characters that might be confused with other characters. If you think that this is intentional, you can safely ignore this warning. Use the Escape button to reveal them.

1
00:00:05,167 --> 00:00:19,108
phone rings
2
00:00:19,108 --> 00:00:22,479
Niira Radia: Hi Prabhu
Prabhu Chawla: Yaa tell me now
3
00:00:22,479 --> 00:00:26,290
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin</i> nothing, I was just wanting to try and understand from you. You always have a very good perspective.
4
00:00:26,290 --> 00:00:28,961
Prabhu Chawla: (laughs) On what?
5
00:00:28,961 --> 00:00:33,093
Niira Radia: On everything <i>bhai</i>, ha ha ha ha.
6
00:00:33,093 --> 00:00:38,585
Niira Radia: Generally you have a good perspective of everything. Trying to understand what is your view on this great historic judgment.
7
00:00:38,585 --> 00:00:40,303
Prabhu Chawla: Which one? The Bombay(?) one?
8
00:00:40,303 --> 00:00:45,616
Niira Radia: Bombay one which takes the family pact above national interest.
9
00:00:45,616 --> 00:00:47,843
(laughs)
10
00:00:47,843 --> 00:00:53,185
Prabhu Chawla: You see when the brothers are involved, the nation also gets involved, <i>na</i>?
11
00:00:53,185 --> 00:00:56,762
Niira Radia: Yaa, but probably not a good thing naa. Not good for the nation.
12
00:00:56,762 --> 00:01:00,935
Prabhu Chawla: Not good for the nation, but the brothers dont talk to each other.
13
00:01:00,935 --> 00:01:03,755
Prabhu Chawla: There is nobody who can force them to talk also <i>na</i>?
14
00:01:03,755 --> 00:01:06,327
Niira Radia: <i>Wo to hoga hi nahin naa</i> Prabhu <i>tum bhii jaante ho</i> (That won't happen, even you know that.)
15
00:01:06,327 --> 00:01:09,817
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Nahin,...maine koshish kii thi., nahin huaa. Maine kahaa ho jayegaa</i> (No...I'd tried..it didn't happen. I said it will happen.)
16
00:01:09,817 --> 00:01:14,431
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin. Abhi nahin</i>. I was speaking to him even recently, I spoke to him this morning, the question of ..
17
00:01:14,431 --> 00:01:16,982
Prabhu Chawla: (interrupts) is he back from wherever he had gone, Mukesh?
18
00:01:16,982 --> 00:01:20,258
Niira Radia: He is very much here, he has been here the whole week. He has not gone anywhere!
19
00:01:20,258 --> 00:01:24,955
Prabhu Chawla: He was abroad last week I think.
Niira Radia: No no no. He's here.
20
00:01:24,955 --> 00:01:30,264
Prabhu Chawla: Anyway, somebody told me that he is abroad.
Niira Radia: No no.... He has been here for the whole week. He's not been anywhere.
21
00:01:30,264 --> 00:01:32,717
Niira Radia: He is not due to travel till next week.
22
00:01:32,717 --> 00:01:37,959
Prabhu Chawla: Because <i>maine toh</i>.....(Because I...) Sometimes he responds. <i>Abhi</i> (Now) I have stopped calling, and talking to him, ...
23
00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,842
Niira Radia: No. Hes been here the whole week. I just spoke to him this morning also.
24
00:01:41,842 --> 00:01:47,763
Niira Radia: He is very much here. He is not supposed to go anywhere till next week.
25
00:01:47,763 --> 00:01:52,973
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Nahii. maine to usko</i>... somebody… I didnt… <i>Usko maine</i> 15-20 <i>din pahle message bhejaa thaa</i>. (I'd sent him a message 15-20 days ago.)
26
00:01:52,973 --> 00:01:58,905
Prabhu Chawla: Then he responded. Then I asked again. Then he never responded. <i>Maine usko message nahin bhejaa phir.</i> (After that I did not message him again)
27
00:01:58,905 --> 00:02:02,923
Prabhu Chawla: Because the whole judgement was coming, I wanted to forewarn you.
28
00:02:02,923 --> 00:02:04,769
Niira Radia: <i>Kyaa</i> judgment </i>uske khilaaf aa rahaa hai</i>? (Is that judgement against him?)
29
00:02:04,769 --> 00:02:11,620
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Haan</i> (Yes), Arrogant <i>hai naa. Uske baad kyaa kare? Yeh arrogance, dono bhaaiyyon kaa samajh mein nahin aati mero ko</i> (Yes, He's arrogant. What more can we do. I don't understand both the brothers' arrogance.)
30
00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:14,845
Niira Radia: But Prabhu tell me one thing. Judgment is fixed, right?
31
00:02:14,845 --> 00:02:22,919
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Dekho</i> (See,) in this country, <i>dono side mein fix karne ki capacity hain. Par baraa bhai jo hain naa.. Chhotaa bhaai mobile jyaada hai</i>. (Both sides have the capacity to fix, in this country. But, the elder brother, ...the younger brother is more 'mobile'...)
32
00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,712
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Paise kam kharach kartaa hai, kanjoos hai sabse jyaadaa....</i> (He spends less, is more of a miser...)
33
00:02:26,712 --> 00:02:36,981
Prabhu Chawla: But he is more mobile than the elder brother. Elder brother doesnt want to go beyond what Dhirubhai left behind with him. Men or people, whatever.
34
00:02:36,981 --> 00:02:40,593
Prabhu Chawla: I think… You are getting what I am telling?
Niira Radia: I understand.
35
00:02:40,593 --> 00:02:46,194
Prabhu Chawla: He is totally dependant on the people who Dhirubhai created. They were relevant at that point of time.
36
00:02:46,194 --> 00:02:53,859
Prabhu Chawla: Now they are not relevant. Anilbhai has done… has developed new sources, new contacts, new way of thinking.
37
00:02:53,859 --> 00:03:03,272
Prabhu Chawla: That can be a possibility <i>ki Mukesh ko apnaa… ek uskii wife bhi thoda dictate jyaadaa karti hai abhi.</i> (Mukesh's wife orders him around more these days.) Anil <i>ki wife nahii kartii hai</i> (Anil's wide doesn't do that.)
38
00:03:03,272 --> 00:03:09,659
Prabhu Chawla: The way things are moving, Mukesh poor fellow is not able to get the right feedback....
39
00:03:09,659 --> 00:03:17,833
Prabhu Chawla: ...because of insulation from various other sources. And I know what he is doing on the Supreme Court front.
40
00:03:17,833 --> 00:03:21,843
Prabhu Chawla: Various things. Which is not the way to go about.
Niira Radia: Hmm.
41
00:03:21,843 --> 00:03:28,739
Prabhu Chawla: What he doing it is known to the rest of the world. Which is not good.
42
00:03:28,739 --> 00:03:34,053
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Usko thoda</i>… If he has to…. because everything is fixed now these days.
43
00:03:34,053 --> 00:03:40,668
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Ab</i> (Now) Supreme Court <i>mein</i> (in) reverse <i>ho gayaa</i> (happens), then he is finished for ever, <i>yaar</i>! (my friend!)
44
00:03:40,668 --> 00:03:46,921
Prabhu Chawla: If he doesnt get a favourable response even from Supreme Court, then he is finished, naa?
45
00:03:46,921 --> 00:03:52,757
Niira Radia: But Prabhu <i>ek baat batao</i> (Tell me something)?
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Haan</i> (sure) ?
Niira Radia: <i>Abhi tak</i> (Until now) Supreme Court <i>kaa</i>, between you and me, <i>toh finalise huaa bhi nahin</i>? (It's not been finalised yet?)
46
00:03:52,757 --> 00:04:01,762
Prabhu Chawla: Finalise <i>kaa matlab kya hai</i>? (Means what?) <i>Bhai</i> Murli Deora <i>bhii jaayega</i> court <i>mein</i>. (will also go to court)
47
00:04:01,762 --> 00:04:07,888
Prabhu Chawla: Prime Minister is also putting pressure on Murli Deora to settle it. Because ultimately it is national loss <i>na</i>, as you put it.
48
00:04:07,888 --> 00:04:13,340
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Itnaa mehanga ho raha hain</i> fuel, <i>ab</i> 90 dollars <i>ho jayegaa 2-3 mahiine mein</i>. (Fuel is getting so expensive! In 2-3 months it will change to 90$)
49
00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:18,358
Prabhu Chawla: if you are not able to take out gas from your own sources, then there is a problem, naa. Country should not bloody suffer because of these two brothers!
50
00:04:18,358 --> 00:04:23,767
Niira Radia: Thats right. Which is what Mukesh has also told Anil very clearly. What is the issue?
51
00:04:23,767 --> 00:04:30,882
Niira Radia: Anil …<i>usne kabhi apne gas ke liye manaa toh nahin kiya. Usne kaha tera 28 mmscmd bantaa hai. Agar NTPC 12 nahii letaa toh teraa woh bhii bantaa hai.</i> (He's never said he won't give the gas. He said you straight away get 28 mmscd. If NTPC doesnt increase, you get that too.)
52
00:04:30,882 --> 00:04:38,300
Niira Radia: <i>Lekin jo 2.34 ki price hai, woh government ki</i> domain <i>hai</i>. Main uspe</i> decide <i>nahin karta sakta</i>, I'm an operator. (But the 2.34 price is the government's price. I can't decide on that.)
53
00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:43,149
Niira Radia: <i>Uska</i> point limited <i>woh hai</i>. (His point is limited to that.) I dont know, <i>aapne</i> MoU <i>dekha</i>? (Did you see the MoU?)
54
00:04:43,149 --> 00:04:49,409
Niira Radia: I dont know whether you have seen it, but I will show it to you. MoU <i>mein aisa kuch likhaa nahin hai</i>. (Nothing like that is written in the MoU.)
55
00:04:49,409 --> 00:04:58,682
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Nahin</i>. MoU <i>mein pataa nahin, maine dekhaa nahiin isi liye</i> I can't say, frankly speaking, and MoU <i>mein, agar</i> court <i>ne</i> order <i>kiya, toh kisii</i> basis <i>pe kiyaa hogaa naa. Padhaa hogaa</i> court <i>ne.</i>
(No, I've not read the MoU, so I can't say. But if the court has passed an order then there must be some basis for it. The court must've read it.)
56
00:04:58,682 --> 00:05:18,639
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin... Uska court kaa order mein</i>, 328 pages <i>mein</i> I can give you anything, I can tell you, <i>woh</i> pen drive <i>bhi jo</i> use <i>ki hogi naa</i>, Prabhu, <i>woh jo</i> telecom </i>kaa</i> TDSAT <i>kaa</i> judgement <i>huaa naa</i>, dual technology <i>kaa</i> Vanavati <i>ne jo karvaya hai</i>, Dr Sarma.. <i>Aur baad mein</i> Raja <i>ne phir</i> Dr Sarma </i>ko</i> TRAI chairman <i>banaa diya</i>. (No, the pen drive that was used in the telecom TDSAT judgment on dual technology, that Vanavati did...later Raja made Dr. Sarma TRAI chairman...)
57
00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:22,995
Niira Radia: <i>Woh</i> guaranteed <i>ki</i> same pen drive use <i>ki hogi</i>. (I guarantee that the same pen drive must have been used...for the 328 pages of the court order.)
Prabhu Chawla: hahaha (laughs)
58
00:05:22,995 --> 00:05:30,617
Niira Radia: <i>Mein tumko dono</i> judgement <i>aamne saamne dikhake, tum dekh lo, dono pad lo. Usme jo… dono</i> wordings <i>mein</i>… (I'll show you both the judgements side-by-side, you see both, you read. The wordings in both....)
59
00:05:30,617 --> 00:05:38,431
Prabhu Chawla: Gulam Vanavati is an old friend of mine. He was in Indian Express when I was editor of Indian Express, he was our counsel.
60
00:05:38,431 --> 00:05:46,062
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Meraa bahut achhaa dost hai puraanaa.</i> Nusli Wadia <i>ke saath thaa pahle</i>. (He's a very good friend of mine from before. He was with Nusli Wadia before...) He is a very good friend of Nusli, even now I think he friends...
61
00:05:46,062 --> 00:05:50,284
Prabhu Chawla: He is with Sharad Pawar also. But he is very close to Anil Ambani. Everybody knows about it.
62
00:05:50,284 --> 00:05:59,015
Prabhu Chawla: Appointment.. Anil Ambani, Nusli Wadia and,... <i>apna hai na</i> power minister, Shinde,...
63
00:05:59,015 --> 00:06:04,635
Prabhu Chawla: ...they all went for him <i>naa</i> for the appointment of [inaudible]. Bhardwaj never liked him.
64
00:06:04,635 --> 00:06:10,890
Prabhu Chawla: Bhardwaj would not have made him the Attorney General <i>agar</i> (if) Bhardwaj law minister <i>hotaa</i> (was). <i>Ab ban gaya wo</i>. (Now, he is.)
65
00:06:10,890 --> 00:06:18,084
Prabhu Chawla: The question is these brothers have to come to the conclusion themselves first....
66
00:06:18,084 --> 00:06:26,346
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Kyun ki</i> agreement <i>toh hogaa</i> court <i>mein jaa karke</i> Supreme Court <i>ne</i> order <i>dono ko</i> acceptable <i>de diya</i>, that can be one way of looking at it.
(because.... one way of looking at it... is that both may get an acceptable order on going to the Supreme Court)
67
00:06:26,346 --> 00:06:37,771
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Kyun ki abhi toh</i> (Because now,) here basically the whole judgement will decide the future of both of them <i>naa</i>? More of Mukesh than of Anil.
68
00:06:37,771 --> 00:06:43,217
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Ki</i> Anil <i>kaa to saala</i> power plant <i>hi shuru nahin hua, usko</i> gas <i>kyaa karna hai</i>?
(Anil's power plant has not even started yet. What will he do with the gas?)
69
00:06:43,217 --> 00:06:49,015
Niira Radia: Judgement <i>mein usne 17 saal to likhaa nahin hai. Mujhe lagtaa hai</i> gas <i>toh de deni chahiye kal se. Usko bolo chal tu le. Kya karegaa uske saath? Kuch nahiin kar saktaa.</i>
(In the judgement he hasn't said 17 years. I feel he should be given the gas. Tell him to take it. What will he do with it? He can't do anything.)
70
00:06:49,015 --> 00:06:53,935
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Bech le nahin sakta. Theek hai, bolo uthaa lo</i> gas <i>jaa kar ke...</i>
(He can't sell it. Okay, tell him to take it.)
Niira Radia: <i>Aur paise do uske liye</i>.
(And pay money for it.)
71
00:06:53,935 --> 00:06:56,985
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Haan paise do, bech nahin saktaa woh kisi aur ko.</i> <i>Likha hai</i> Judgement <i>mein</i> you can't sell it to anybody else <i>naa</i>?
(Yes, pay for it. He can't sell it to anybody else. It says so in the judgment, doesn't it?)
Niira Radia: Correct, correct.
72
00:06:56,985 --> 00:07:08,366
Prabhu Chawla: <i> Theek hai, bhai.</i> That, that… let Mukesh sell it wherever he wants to sell it. That should be the…
73
00:07:08,366 --> 00:07:16,036
Prabhu Chawla: <i>...Mukesh kaa</i> objective <i>kyaa hai</i>,( ...I don't know what Mukesh's objective is.) I dont know. You are not clear. Because <i>unke yahan jo</i> Anand Jain </i>toh baahar ho gayaa mere khayaal se</i>. He is out, <i>naa</i>?
74
00:07:16,036 --> 00:07:24,683
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin nahin</i>, (No, no) he is very much there. Again <i>ye</i> Anil <i>ki phailee hui baatein hain. Yeh galat baat hai. Main usko itnii baar khud dekh chukkii huun.</i>
(These are rumours spread by Anil. It's wrong. I've seen him, myself, so many times.)
75
00:07:24,683 --> 00:07:27,957
Prabhu Chawla: I dont know, because people on both sides are <i>haraami</i>, na advisors.
76
00:07:27,957 --> 00:07:35,382
Niira Radia: <i>Nahiin, ek baat, sach baat, bataa duun tum ko</i>. (No, let me tell you something...) Anand Jain is very much there. Manoj Modi is very much there. Mukesh is very much there.
77
00:07:35,382 --> 00:07:40,536
Prabhu Chawla: Manoj Modi is little more professional
Niira Radia: He is very professional
78
00:07:40,536 --> 00:07:48,794
Prabhu Chawla: Manoj Modi very much professional. Anand Jain <i>thoda</i> politics <i>kartaa hai ki uskaa apnaa dhandaa bhi hai</i>, business <i>hai</i>. (Anand Jain plays some political games...he has his business too.) He has more influence on…
79
00:07:48,794 --> 00:07:53,489
Niira Radia: Haan ... but <i>is</i> matter <i>mein</i> Manoj Modi <i>jyaadaa hogaa na nazdeek</i>?
(Yes, but in this matter Manoj Modi must be closer, isn't it?)
80
00:07:53,489 --> 00:08:02,951
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Haan</i> (yes), Manoj Modi <i>jo bhi hai</i>, but now Supreme Court <i>mein aana hi hai</i> case. Anil Ambani <i>ne</i> caveat file <i>kardii</i>. <i>Kal parso ki</i>.
(Yes whoever. But now the case has to go to the Supreme court, Anil A. has filed the caveat.)
81
00:08:02,951 --> 00:08:06,221
Niira Radia: <i>Woh toh karegaa naa</i>. (That he would do,...) He has to safeguard his interests.
82
00:08:06,221 --> 00:08:17,876
Prabhu Chawla: But since you have access to Mukesh, you should should convey to Mukesh that the way he is going about the Supreme Court is not… I wont give you anything more than that. It is not the right way.
83
00:08:17,876 --> 00:08:22,170
Niira Radia: Nahin, “not the right way” matlab? You're saying- He is going to Supreme Court, he shouldnt go to Supreme Court?
84
00:08:22,170 --> 00:08:28,990
Prabhu Chawla: No, no, no. The way he is going to the Supreme Court. I won't tell you more than that.
85
00:08:28,990 --> 00:08:41,385
Prabhu Chawla: The people he is using, they are not the people who can be trusted for keeping it to themselves.
Niira Radia: Hmm..
86
00:08:41,385 --> 00:08:54,500
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Bol dete hain, ab</i> London <i>mein baith ke kuch bhi bolte hain. Achha nahin lagtaa naa</i>,(Sitting in London, they say anything. It's not good...) it gets back. London is like… London is not London. It is a phone call away.
Niira Radia: Hmmm..
87
00:08:54,500 --> 00:09:02,777
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Usko thoda</i>… He must be… Political system <i>hi</i> Delhi <i>mein</i> change <i>ho gayaa</i>.
88
00:09:02,777 --> 00:09:09,527
Prabhu Chawla: Mukesh. Mukesh <i>ne bhi</i>.. People may be projecting whatever he is close to Sonia, he is close to Rahul...
89
00:09:09,527 --> 00:09:15,003
Prabhu Chawla: But may be Mukesh got access, but he cant influence anything. Collective <i>jyadaa ho gaya naa</i>. (It's more of a collective.)
90
00:09:15,003 --> 00:09:23,868
Prabhu Chawla: Kamalnath can decide one thing but he can be overruled by Pranab Mukherjee. So <i>ye saare</i> loose ends <i>ko</i> tight <i>karnaa hai naa</i>?
(All these loose ends must be tied-up together, no?)
91
00:09:23,868 --> 00:09:27,646
Niira Radia: <i>Maine tumharaa</i> London <i>kaa</i> point catch <i>nahin kiyaa</i>...
(I didn't understand your point about London.)
92
00:09:27,646 --> 00:09:36,099
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Matlab</i> (As in), he is trying to understand how to go into the Supreme Court.
Niira Radia: I dont think so Prabhu, <i>tumko yeh kisne bataya</i>? (Who said this to you?)
93
00:09:36,099 --> 00:09:42,632
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Chhodo na ab</i>.
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin</i> seriously, Prabhu <i>main tumse kyun chhupaun baat? Sach-much</i>. I mean. Come on.
(No, seriously, why would I hide anything from you?)
94
00:09:42,632 --> 00:09:48,668
Prabhu Chawla: He has to go to appeal in Supreme Court or not finally?
Niira Radia: Agreed. He is appealing to Supreme Court. He will have to appeal in the Supreme Court, the question doesnt arise.
95
00:09:48,668 --> 00:09:52,289
Prabhu Chawla: If he is appealing to Supreme Court, he must be trying to find out the right people.
96
00:09:52,289 --> 00:09:58,687
Prabhu Chawla: Harish Salve <i>toh uskaa</i> advocate <i>hai hii</i>. He will appear for him. Because he is an outstanding advocate.
97
00:09:58,687 --> 00:10:06,918
Prabhu Chawla: But he must be thinking if there's any way of, like, Anil can use various ways, he can also use various ways or not.
98
00:10:06,918 --> 00:10:15,476
And you know what? Brothers are not… Clean <i>toh dono mein se… apne apne tareeka dono lagayenge naa</i>?
(They both will try their own ways, no?)
99
00:10:15,476 --> 00:10:21,969
Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i>. Anil Ambani <i>apnaa lagaa hogaa, apne logo ke</i> through, DMK <i>ke</i> through, <i>apne</i> Chief Justice <i>ke paas yeh sab</i>.
(Anil must have tried, through his people, through DMK, with the Chief Justice, and all.)
100
00:10:21,969 --> 00:10:26,909
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Nahin</i>, DMK <i>toh</i> Chief Justice Kerala <i>kaa hai na</i>.
(No, DMK... Chief Justice is from Kerala, no?)
Niira Radia: <i>Haan</i>. Kerala <i>kaa hai</i>.
(Yes, he is from Kerala.)
101
00:10:26,909 --> 00:10:38,876
Prabhu Chawla: He is not… <i>Yeh bhi lage honge naa kisii ke</i> through? Mukesh <i>bhii toh kar rahaa hogaa naa? Phir? Wohi keh rahaa huun.</i> Mukeh <i>jis tariike se</i> approach <i>kar rahaa hai</i>, if thats what I heard, is not the right way to go.
(They must be trying on this end too,...Mukesh must be at it too. That's what I'm saying. The method of approach Mukesh is using is not the right way.)
102
00:10:38,876 --> 00:10:43,711
Niira Radia: <i>Theek hai</i>. I understood what you are saying.
Prabhu Chawla: Now you understand <i>na</i>?
103
00:10:43,711 --> 00:10:48,920
Niira Radia: I will… <i>Main baat karungi thodi der mein</i>, (I will speak to you in some time,) I will tell him to speak to you.
104
00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:56,457
Prabhu Chawla: Yeah, Because, I sent him messages, <i>10 bar messages bhejaa</i>, he doesnt reply. I dont want to call him.
105
00:10:56,457 --> 00:11:03,270
Prabhu Chawla: Because my family is a retainer for Anil. I dont want to discuss with him at all.
106
00:11:03,270 --> 00:11:08,320
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Lekin sun toh letaa hun naa kaii baar,... idhar udhar se, political logon se</i>. (But one does hear bits here and there...from 'political' people.)
107
00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:14,816
Prabhu Chawla: But he is not appearing for him. My son is not involved in this case at all.
Niira Radia: Your son, <i>naa</i>?
108
00:11:14,816 --> 00:11:18,514
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Haan</i>, he is not involved at all.
Niira Radia: Why?
109
00:11:18,514 --> 00:11:26,224
Prabhu Chawla: 'Cause he doesnt trust my son also, in this case. (laughs) Anil doesnt trust my son.
Niira Radia: Your son is with whom now?
110
00:11:26,224 --> 00:11:31,482
Prabhu Chawla: He is a retainer for Anil <i>naa</i>. He is independent. He is running his own independent company.
111
00:11:31,482 --> 00:11:37,262
Prabhu Chawla: He is not with Rian any more.
Niira Radia: <i>Haan...</i> (Yes...)
Prabhu Chawla: He is running his own solicitor firm.
Niira Radia: <i>Haan haan...</i> (Yes,...)
112
00:11:37,262 --> 00:11:45,713
Prabhu Chawla: He was retained by various people...(inaudible) Anils mobile is one company which retains him.
Niira Radia: <i>Haan...</i>
113
00:11:45,713 --> 00:11:55,735
Prabhu Chawla: But in this case he is not involved. But <i>idhar udhar se pick up toh karte hain na cheezein sab</i>.
Niira Radia: Right, right.
114
00:11:55,735 --> 00:11:59,662
Prabhu Chawla: My information is through the legal sources.
Niira Radia: Yes...
115
00:11:59,662 --> 00:12:08,850
Prabhu Chawla: Once you tell him that Prabhu was saying something about you talking to people in London, he will understand.
Niira Radia: <i>Chalo</i> (Okay) I will tell him.
116
00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:19,579
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Chhota Bhai bada haraami hai</i>. (The younger brother is a real *&^%*!#)
Niira Radia: <i>Harami to hai lekin har waqt haraamii panaa</i> last <i>nahiin kartaa naa</i>, (He is,..but that behaviour does stop somewhere) Prabhu you also know.
117
00:12:19,579 --> 00:12:29,932
Prabhu Chawla: Question is, <i>abhii</i> (now), when you are working in a system which is not clean, you have to be… <i>bhaii tumhaare ko nuksaan to ho gaya naa?
118
00:12:29,932 --> 00:12:38,323
Prabhu Chawla: Udhar</i> recovery <i>karte raho apne aap</i>. (You have already suffered a setback. And then keep trying recover yourself.) It is better to do it in a manner so that you are not the loser.
119
00:12:42,867 --> 00:12:48,757
Niira Radia: <i>Theek hai</i> (Alright...)
Prabhu Chawla: <i>Main kal jaa rahaa hun</i> Bombay. <i>Ek baar usne kahaa thaa<i> dinner </i>pe aana ghar pe</i>. That is about… He called me one day.
120
00:12:48,757 --> 00:12:55,452
Prabhu Chawla: You remember [inaudible].... I was the only senior editor there.
121
00:12:55,452 --> 00:13:02,363
Prabhu Chawla: But then after that I tried to meet him, but <i>nahin mil paayaa</i>. (...but I didn't manage to meet him.)
122
00:13:02,363 --> 00:13:06,200
Prabhu Chawla: I went a couple of times to Bombay recently but he was not there. I have been trying to reach him <i>par uske baad baat hii nahii huii</i>. (...but after that I never got to speak to him.)
[abrupt end]