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Niira: Hello.
Manoj: <i>Haan woh</i> Utpal <i>ka woh wallah</i> query <i>tha ki</i> (Yes, Utpal had a query that) MTPC - NTPC - Power ministry is writing a letter to Petroleum ministry saying that they should give them 2.34 - gas at 2.43 with the option of whatever happens in the High Court kind of a thing.
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Niira: No no, that is sub judice.
Manoj: <i>Haan, theek hai, theek hai</i> (Yes, okay, okay).
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Niira: Likewise, with (inaudible), <i>na</i>?
Manoj: Okay, okay.
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Niira: Jaiswal <i>ki</i> story <i>humko</i> help <i>hi karegi</i> (Jaiswal's story will help us).
Manoj: Umm. <i>Haan, theek hai. Ki yeh</i> allocation <i>hua nahin hai</i>. (Umm. Yes, okay. That this allocation hasn't taken place.)
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Niira: <i>Haan, haan haan. Par</i> Manoj, <i>ek baat hai, mein tujhe ek baat bataon, yeh jo</i> Anupam <i>aur yeh sab hai na</i> (Yes yes yes. But Manoj, there's one thing, may I tell you one thing, this Anupam and all) -
Manoj: Hmm.
Niira: <i>Agar tum aur mai, aur hum log teen-chaar jane agar</i> handle <i>karle na</i> (Id you and I, and us three-four people handle this) -
Manoj: <i>Haan</i>.
Niira: - (inaudible) <i>kisi ki zaroorat nahin hai</i> (there is no need for that).
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Niira: Is time, because honestly speaking, <i>na, mein jo dekh rahi hoon, aur woh mujhe</i> feedback <i>aa raha hai, ki yeh jo humko - jaise</i> Rohit <i>se bhi</i> feedback <i>aata hai ya to yeh, in logon se, isne aise kiya hai, isne aise kiya hai - hum log jyada tar</i> fear psychosis <i>mein jeete hain, tujhe pata hai na</i>, I always try to break free of that - (...honestly speaking, what I am seeing, and what feedback I am getting, for example from Rohit - this person did this, this person did that - we tend to live with a fear psychosis, you know, I always try to break free of that -)
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Manoj: Hmm, hmm.
Niira: So I do not believe, after what I've seen that nothing is possible without communicating, and I don't think that they're so powerful, <i>ki</i> there are wheels within wheels, they have great strategies as Vishal puts it, you see.
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Manoj: Hmm, hmm.
Niira: I do not believe that, their strategy is destructive, and you can always counter destructive strategies.
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Manoj: Hmm, hmm.
Niira: So I honestly don't know that, you know, his meeting Arindam or this or that will cause - I don't think so. Because I - Arindam has been on the phone with me since yesterday, twice he called me, you know, everyone has been in touch. Sukumar by the way called me this morning <i>haan</i>-
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Manoj: <i>Haan</i>, what's he saying?
Niira: You know, when you - I just want to say one thing to you, that I'm really grateful, and I'm sorry, maybe next time the meetings should be one-on-one, also you know, he says, when you come to Mint, just remember that you're going to have lunch with us.
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Manoj: <i>Arrey wah!</i> (Well done!)
(inaudible)
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Manoj: Madam, <i>bas, woh ek hi hai </i> (just that one thing), I mean what you mentioned in the morning that it's upto reporters you don't get involved because they have a tendency of lee - being leeches, more than anything else, Sukumar and all that is fine, but you know, Nayantara and Supriya are all -
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Niira: I don't even handle them, but they keep on calling me, and I get really bugged with them.
Manoj: <i> Haan, to aap bol do na, ki isse </i> deal <i>kar le</i> (Yes to tell them to deal with it) - you know, travelling or something like that and they will -
(inaudible)
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Manoj: No because it will get irritating after a point of time, I mean, since I handle them on a daily basis, <i>yeh kuch</i> story <i>de do, koi</i> paper <i>de do, yehi chalta reha hai unka </i> life <i>mein</i>...
Niira: <i>Haan, haan, haan, haan.</i>
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Niira: And then I said - I said, "Okay, can I choose the menu?"
Manoj: <i> Nahin</i> (No), okay, TP.
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Niira: Of course you can (chuckles).
Manoj: (chuckles)
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Niira: So anyway, just letting you know.
Manoj: Good good, good good.
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Niira: Keep that in mind, keep that in mind that we do not need that, and so when you meet Vishal now -
Manoj: Hmm.
Niira: - you need to tell him that you know, honestly speaking, our observation is quite different from what we're being told, you know -
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Manoj: Hmm.
Niira: On the ground, <i>tumhari</i> team <i>ko</i> review <i>karna kal</i> (review your team tomorrow), I think we should take some very pragmatic steps, you know?
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Manoj: <i>Theek hai, theek hai</i> (Fine, fine).
Niira: Now let's look at it from, that point of view. Huh?
Manoj: Sure -
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