Manoj Modi: How is Senthil relevant in this? <i>Yeh toh </i> Indrajit [Indrajit Gupta of Forbes] <i>naah</i>? (This is Indrajit Gupta of Forbes, isn't it?)
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin nahin</i> apology <i>toh</i> publication <i>mein aa rahi hai naa</i>... Apology <i> toh woh</i> (-No no, the apology will appear in the publication, no...The apology -)
Manoj Modi: <i>Nahin nahin</i>, publication <i>kuch nahi hota hai...Mereko</i> 48 hours <i>mein</i> apology <i>chaahiye</i> from Indrajit (No no, publication is nothing...I want an apology from Indrajit in 48 hours).
Niira Radia: Listen listen listen...Why Senthil is been - sent it. Apology will come from Indrajit only, what Senthil has sent me a draft of the type of apology and of course giving his own perspective as to because Raghav (inaudible) -
Manoj Modi: Why is he sending it to you? They have officially received official communication from AS Dayal, they need to communicate to AS Dayal officially.
Manoj Modi: I am going as soon as I as I don't receive officially in 48 hours, I am taking criminal charge and that I have written to Raghav [Raghav Bahl, Forbes and CNBC head] .
Niira Radia: I saw that. I have read it. The point I am making is the reason he sent it to me is because obviously they got the legal notice. He did not send it to me as a... to send it via me...he didn't do that. What he sent to me was this is what I want to send. I have told him I cannot comment on it.
Manoj Modi: And uh I told him that if you behave like this I understand. And <i>usme yeh sab likh diyaa thaa maine ki</i> (And I wrote all this there, that) you...um...you have become completely corrupt organisation, all your reporters are corrupt, all your this thing (sic) is not acceptable and you are running a yellow journalism.
Manoj Modi: (Inaudible) <i>Main jab bheja na tabhi tumko</i> immediately forward <i>kiyaa thaa</i> (When I sent it, I'd immediately forwarded it to you).
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin yaar</i>, I am telling you, I mean I, even now I am sitting on my emails (sic) and I am just going through two days ago and right till the weekend. The only mail I have got from you is literally the Atul Dayal notice.
Manoj Modi: I will check on my desktop <i>ki</i> whether I have sent you or I had sent - kept it in a that in a draft file. I will have to check and I am not in my room.
Manoj Modi: I will check. I..I have that impression <i>ki jaise maine bhej diya</i> immediately <i>maine tumko</i> forward <i>kiya tha</i> (I have the impression that just as I sent it, I'd immediately forwarded it to you). <i>Aisa mereko </i>, my recollection is... that is why I am saying you don't share it with anybody. Means (sic) otherwise yeh toh, yeh this, this <i>toh</i> you have filed with, we have sent to them...so this <i>toh</i> there is nothing secret about this.
Manoj Modi: No no no no no no no, I had sent...<i>arrey maine isme main likha tha ki</i> (arrey, I had written in this that) you're saying that your uh yout Indrajit is saying that is a source-based story and all that and I said forget about source-based even factual story you don't print for ADAG (Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group) and you will do everything for us.
Niira Radia: Hmm. Mmhmm...what did he say to that?
Manoj Modi: <i>Aur isme toh main</i> criminal <i>karne wala hoon uske paas mere ko</i> (And in this case I am going to file a criminal case, I -) - I want to - even if I accept the apology I want to know their source and if they don't give me the source I am going to file police complaint regarding the source.
Manoj Modi: Hmm. <i>Yeh koi chhodne wala hoon kya main</i>. This is concerning Mukesh personally and when Mukesh <i>ko</i> personal attack <i>karegaa toh main</i> Manoj Modi <i>hoon</i> (Hmm. Do you think I would let this be? This is concerning Mukesh personally and when a personal attack is launched on Mukesh` by anyone, I am Manoj Modi.)
Manoj Modi: <i>Chodunga nahin kisi ko</i> (I won't let anyone go).
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Niira Radia: <i>Nahin nahin, theek baat hai,</i> Manoj <i>theek baat hai</i> (No no, it's the right thing, Manoj, it's the right thing). So everything is written. No, I have not got that email so -
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Manoj Modi: I will check , I mean, I'll not (sic) today be able to forward because I am not in my desk. I will check my desk <i>ki kyuun nahi gaya</i> (about why , it's not been sent), I need to investigate that, <i> nahin gaya toh </i> (if it hasn't been sent). Actually <i>kyaa hua hoga </i> means (sic) I must have made the forward, I mean, I must have done forward to you and some call-wall (sic) must have come and then I must have stored it as saved draft or while taking the call I have not forwarded. Something...one of these two things must have happened.
Manoj Modi: <i>Woh toh bhej diyaa na</i> already. <i>Woh toh pehle hi bhej diya main aur usme toh, accha unko bheja hai</i> (I've sent that already, no. I've sent that in the beginning itself, and in it, okay I've sent it to them) and after we sent only, thereafter only, I also received it after that only. I read the draft of the notice then Atul Dayal finalise it and sent it.
Manoj Modi: No, no, and this, this legal notice <i>ke pehle</i> (before the legal notice) I had sent to Raghav that such and such thing has happened, this Indrajit Gupta's reply and all that, this is all this nonsense that is there so...uh...I am going to proceed now legally.
Manoj Modi: So he had send, I'm - my extreme apology and I need to take him to task .. however, you know, to help me put pressure you please proceed legally.
Niira Radia: Hmmm...<i>inko itni himmat nahi hai apne</i> editors <i>ko</i> handle <i>karne ke liye</i> (Don't they have enough courage to handle their editors?
Manoj Modi: <i>Suno, mereko yeh aaya na, toh maine bhej diya phir usko,</i>legal <i>bhii aur uske saath - uske saath mein usko - uska jawaab aayaa na, uske baad bhi maine jawaab usko theek se diya</i> (Listen, when this came to me, then I sent it, legal also and with that - when the answer arrived, after that I gave them a proper answer).
Manoj Modi: Airport <i>se mein jaaonga na yahaan</i> Taj <i>mein</i>, toh Taj mein apun mil lenge alag se</i> (I'll be going to the Taj from the airport, so we can meet at the Taj separately).
Niira Radia: Poor Rahul is literally on his knees again. But I need to brief you on that. Because I think there are a lot of issues going on and we have to examine everything holistically so, today, even I had a frank discussion on everything including the interactions you've had. And he's...I don't think they are not open to doing it. I think they are being cautious, is my reading today. I mean, it was literally, we had a very very frank discussion, only him and me, I did not take anybody with me and neither did he bring any of his colleagues.
Manoj Modi: <i>Haan theek hai, theek hai, dekhenge, apun milte hai phir baat karte hai.</i> (Okay, okay, let's see, let us meet and talk] We are not under any pressure whatsoever.
Niira Radia: <i>Nahin theek hai</i> (No, okay). Just one thing, Manoj, Monday <i>ko jo</i> presentation <i>hai nah</i> (the presentation that's there on Monday) -
Manoj Modi: I will be there. Mukesh <i>ka</i>...see my being there is less important than as much as Mukesh being there. Mukesh has to clear everything.
Manoj Modi: I understand but you have to be - see this - you have to treat as if you are directly dealing with Mukesh. I will be sitting there and of course, I will be there in the whole presentation and everytime because if Mukesh is there, I will be there.
Manoj Modi: But between you and me, we can't agree just two of us, because this is concerning all the businesses and everything and all of those things that has to be cleared by Mukesh only.
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Niira Radia: No, no, I agree, I agree. I agree. So I am also going - meeting Prasad on Tuesday on that - I will present both the presentations, that I am going to present to him also. This is MDA's - MDA's image, you know, this is his presentation. So it's very very important.
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Manoj Modi: No no, but you have to discuss everything. See, you can't just discuss only MDA's things, you have to discuss the entire -see whatever is the holistic approach, whatever you want to discuss <i>na</i>, the entire thing you need to get cleared by MDA.
Niira Radia: No, that's what I'm doing, I have got all of them ready. Retail <i>bhi</i> ready, Neeta <i>ka bbhi</i> ready <i>hai</i> (Retail also, Neeta's is ready too.)
Manoj Modi: <i>Woh bhej dene na, pehle se</i> Mukesh <i>ko</i> (Send that beforehand to Mukesh) because you see, good that you are doing it on Monday then if you send it on Saturday, Mukesh will read it on Sunday also.
Manoj Modi: And uh, coming straight - going straight to Taj Palace <i>mein uska kuch</i> function <i>hai shaadi ka</i> (going straight to the Taj Palace where there is some wedding function of his).
Manoj Modi: So because uh...(pause)...well, in that case, we can spend half hour and then I can go for the function. I will spend half hour there and just uh, get lost.
Niira Radia: You don't have to reply, I sent it to you, I am not going to reply to it, I'm gonna just - I have already told him on the phone that you please send it to the lawyer. So in the morning, I will tell him again that you have 48 hours to respond. And I suggest you send it to the lawyer.
Manoj Modi: Yeah, yeah you say, because then the Atul <i>bhai</i> will suggest whatever the changes required because this has been now given by Mukesh to staight (sic) Atul Dayal who is going to handle it <i>ekdum</i> (absolutely) sternly. I have not seen and...and that information I have given to Raghav I have not seen Mukesh in such anguish and pain in my whole life.
Niira Radia: Hmm. I agree with you, Manoj. <i>Uske upar kuch karnaa padega</i> (We'll have to do something about this) because if I - even if I look at the apology which I have told Senthil, I mean when he was reading it out on the phone to me itself, I told him your apology in itself is an apology...because if you just look at it, you are uh -
Niira Radia: I mean, what is he saying he says, we have just been told some of the facts in the column were inaccurate and we regret it. What are you talking these are absolute lies, what is in your this thing - and you have to admit that you have carried lies. Nothing short of that, you know, that is -
Manoj Modi: We will not accept, we will proceed we will file a libel suit, we will file criminal complaint because we have figured out how to file criminal complaint in this.
Manoj Modi: <i>Nahin nahin, is mein to kyaa hai, kaun source hai, yeh sab hum</i> immediately <i>puchenge aur jo bhi uskaa</i> investigation <i>hoga usmein</i> police-volice (sic) <i>aayegi, pakdenge logon ko</i> (No no, what's there, who the source is, all this we will immediately ask and whatever investigation takes place into that matter, the police will arrive, we'll catch people.)
Manoj Modi: Don't worry, don't worry. Protection <i>nahi milta hai</i> in this case (Protection is not given in this case). We will see <i>na</i>, we will figure out. <i>Is mein toh kitna bhi 10, 20, 50 crore kharchaa hogaa toh koi</i> problem <i>nahi hai</i> (Even if we have to spend 10, 20, 50 crores, it's not a problem).
Niira Radia: Getting rid once for all because this is enough you know. (Inaudible) I told Rahul Joshi also. But then <i>jo bhi hai </i>, negative <i>nahin kar rahe hai hamaare khilaaf</i>, you know, <i>woh sab bandh karenge</i> (But then, whatever it is, they're not doing anything negative against us, you know, we'll shut all that down).
