1 00:00:13,123 --> 00:00:13,715 Male voice: Hi 2 00:00:13,715 --> 00:00:15,197 Nira: Hi! 3 00:00:15,197 --> 00:00:16,114 Male voice: How are you? 4 00:00:16,114 --> 00:00:17,586 Nira: I'm fine. I'm looking at you son's chart. 5 00:00:17,586 --> 00:00:20,424 Male voice: Oh my gosh! Yeh.. 6 00:00:20,424 --> 00:00:22,493 Nira: (Inaudible) I know how to read it no? (Giggles) 7 00:00:22,493 --> 00:00:24,398 Male voice: Yah! You get a chart? 8 00:00:24,398 --> 00:00:30,590 Nira: One of the hazards of being from a family which knew how to do that...(Giggles) 9 00:00:30,590 --> 00:00:32,237 Male voice: Right, right... 10 00:00:32,237 --> 00:00:37,838 Nira: You've learnt it as... No, I mean I spoke to myyy ehh my cousin and if you want to speak to him then he said he will speak to you... 11 00:00:37,838 --> 00:00:39,886 Male voice: Ok. 12 00:00:39,886 --> 00:00:43,075 Nira: Ehh.. amm.. and I can just connect the both of you... I can give you his number. 13 00:00:43,075 --> 00:00:44,180 Male voice: Sure... 14 00:00:44,180 --> 00:00:47,102 Nira: But he's got a good phase huh! He's got sixteen years of Jupiter! 15 00:00:47,102 --> 00:00:48,436 Male voice: What does that mean? 16 00:00:48,436 --> 00:00:55,133 Nira: It means very good. Its a very good phase for him, very positive. Right now since April, I know he is, even though he's moved out of a job... 17 00:00:55,133 --> 00:00:56,098 Male voice: Hmmmm.. 18 00:00:56,098 --> 00:00:59,525 Nira: But he's got a very important planet which is Jupiter into Mercury, he'll do well! 19 00:00:59,525 --> 00:01:00,756 Male voice: Hmm. Huh?!. 20 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:07,492 Nira: Ya, I think he, there's just an opportunity that will come to him... aaa...you can see that actually... it's ehh... 21 00:01:07,492 --> 00:01:09,050 Male voice: Hm. 22 00:01:09,050 --> 00:01:18,862 Nira: He's got a ...he's got a very...I can see very positive signs for sixteen years...at least till 2018 he's really going to be on a high and even then after that his period's quite good. 23 00:01:18,862 --> 00:01:19,600 Male voice: Hm. Hmm... 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,985 Nira: Why does he want to get married? 25 00:01:21,985 --> 00:01:23,564 Male voice: Why doesn't he want to get? 26 00:01:23,564 --> 00:01:24,678 Nira: Hmm... 27 00:01:24,678 --> 00:01:25,181 Male voice: Or why does he want to get? 28 00:01:25,181 --> 00:01:26,824 Nira: No, why doesn't he? 29 00:01:26,824 --> 00:01:29,432 Male voice: I want him to get married...no he...i...think... 30 00:01:29,432 --> 00:01:30,963 Nira: May be he'll get married this year... 31 00:01:30,963 --> 00:01:33,571 Male voice: He's worried about finances I think. 32 00:01:33,571 --> 00:01:36,477 Nira: Hmm. He looks like he'll get married huh, next year. 33 00:01:36,477 --> 00:01:38,094 Male voice: That will be great. 34 00:01:38,094 --> 00:01:40,547 Nira: Hmm. Looks like in this fortieth year. Forty huh? 35 00:01:40,547 --> 00:01:41,785 Male voice: Ya, he's forty. 36 00:01:41,785 --> 00:01:46,137 Nira: Ya, he'll get married next year, by the look of things...but i'll ask aa Anup to tell you in detail... 37 00:01:46,137 --> 00:01:46,606 Male voice: Hm hm.. 38 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:49,709 Nira: I'm only giving my two little bit of what I can see of it...(Giggles) 39 00:01:49,709 --> 00:01:50,962 Male voice: Huh Hm. 40 00:01:50,962 --> 00:01:53,015 Nira: His number aa? Shall I ask him to call you? 41 00:01:53,015 --> 00:01:56,804 Male voice: No I'll call him, I'm going to South Africa for the two matches, 42 00:01:56,804 --> 00:01:57,844 Nira: Okay... 43 00:01:57,844 --> 00:01:59,386 Male voice: ...tonight, taking Aurup with me. 44 00:01:59,386 --> 00:02:00,334 Nira: Okay... 45 00:02:00,334 --> 00:02:01,774 Male voice: Now i'm going for the swearing in ceremony, 46 00:02:01,774 --> 00:02:03,123 Nira: Ah huh... 47 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:03,397 Male voice: ...for which i've been invited... 48 00:02:03,397 --> 00:02:04,238 Nira: Right... 49 00:02:04,238 --> 00:02:06,041 Male voice: ...for which I've been invited without your friends from the DMK. 50 00:02:06,041 --> 00:02:19,753 Nira: Ya but you know, you please can you tell the Congress for me, please, they are listening to Dayanidhi Maran, they are talking to the wrong people. Karunanidhi doesn't even know what's going on. He gave them a list on Monday night... 51 00:02:19,753 --> 00:02:20,761 Male voice: Hmm... 52 00:02:20,761 --> 00:02:21,981 Nira: ...which was Dayanidhi Maran - Railways, Azhagiri - Surface, 53 00:02:21,981 --> 00:02:23,427 Male voice: Hmm.. 54 00:02:23,427 --> 00:02:25,123 Nira: Kani - Health, 55 00:02:25,123 --> 00:02:27,044 Male voice: Hmm. 56 00:02:27,044 --> 00:02:27,186 Nira: Power - Balu 57 00:02:27,186 --> 00:02:28,623 Male voice: Hmm. 58 00:02:28,623 --> 00:02:30,617 Nira: ...and Telecom - Raja... 59 00:02:30,617 --> 00:02:31,613 Male voice: Yaa.. 60 00:02:31,613 --> 00:02:33,587 Nira: He knew that Power and Railways would get dropped. 61 00:02:33,587 --> 00:02:34,835 Male voice: Hmm 62 00:02:34,835 --> 00:02:39,022 Nira: He needed them to come back and say that I cannot give you this and this. 63 00:02:39,022 --> 00:02:39,865 Male voice: Hmm. 64 00:02:39,865 --> 00:02:47,298 Nira: He would have dealt with the rest of it himself. Instead Congress went into a bit of a tizzy didn't know what they were saying to him... 65 00:02:47,298 --> 00:02:47,876 Male voice: Hm. 66 00:02:47,876 --> 00:02:56,668 Nira: ...and it went all wrong and allowed Dayanidhi Maran to drive the bargaining and including whatever they are telling Dayanidhi Maran is not going back to Karunanidhi in its correct form. 67 00:02:56,668 --> 00:02:58,345 Male voice: Hmm. Hm. 68 00:02:58,345 --> 00:03:00,009 Nira: He's distorting everything that's going to him. 69 00:03:00,009 --> 00:03:01,442 Male voice: Hmm.. 70 00:03:01,442 --> 00:03:17,710 Nira: And he's got one daughter telling him I'll commit suicide, he's got one aaa wife saying I'll do this and... so he's... that whole... if Congress had just dealt with that list they may have got away with even two members of cabinet. Because Azhagiri had agreed to be MOS independent if Dayanidhi was not made a Cabinet Minister. 71 00:03:17,710 --> 00:03:19,192 Male voice: Hm Hmm. 72 00:03:19,192 --> 00:03:32,285 Nira: ..But because Congress kept on... ehh...Dayanidhi kept on saying tooo... Raj - ehh...to his leader that Congress Ahmed Patel's been in touch with him and Ahmed Patel's had asked him for swearing in...when Raja... when the leader has not even authorised him to negotiate. 73 00:03:32,285 --> 00:03:33,485 Male voice: Hmm.. 74 00:03:33,485 --> 00:03:38,923 Nira: So basically dealt it with through Kanimozhi who's been with him right through, Prime Minister also through.. spoke via her. 75 00:03:38,923 --> 00:03:40,356 Male voice: Hmm. 76 00:03:40,356 --> 00:03:43,397 Nira: They needed to speak to Kanimozhi and Kanimozhi would have taken them directly to her father. 77 00:03:43,397 --> 00:03:44,861 Male voice: Hm Hmm. 78 00:03:44,861 --> 00:03:54,274 Nira: The matter would have been resolved there. He does not want four. The only reason four are being asked is because Azhagiri cannot be an MOS when Karuna... ehh when Maran is a Cabinet Minister. 79 00:03:54,274 --> 00:03:55,543 Male voice: Hmm. Hm. 80 00:03:55,543 --> 00:04:01,518 Nira: So, when they offered three and Maran kept on telling them that they want him to be a Cabinet Minister. 81 00:04:01,518 --> 00:04:04,845 Male voice: Why don't they keep Maran out? Why do they have to have Maran? 82 00:04:04,845 --> 00:04:12,947 NIra: They... they...he he needs help from Congress a little bit on that one. Because he thinks Karuna... that Congress is supporting Maran. 83 00:04:12,947 --> 00:04:13,764 Male voice: Ohhk ok... 84 00:04:13,764 --> 00:04:18,233 Nira: If Congress gives him a message that we've not given any message for Maran at all.. 85 00:04:18,233 --> 00:04:19,255 Male voice: Hmm. 86 00:04:19,255 --> 00:04:31,820 Nira: ..he will be... they would have got away with two cabinets. Because Kar...Kani and Azhagiri had both agreed that we will stick to MOS independent and Raja and Balu can come and it doesn't matter. Or we'll bring in somebody new. 87 00:04:31,820 --> 00:04:36,628 Male voice: They don't want re.. he...eehh.. Manmohan Singh doesn't want Raja and Balu. 88 00:04:36,628 --> 00:04:41,897 Nira: No, he's not said Raja, he's indicated ok about Raja to them only Balu he doesn't want. 89 00:04:41,897 --> 00:04:43,592 Male voice: Balu's of course been terrible. 90 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:56,123 Nira: So, if somebody can relay that to Karunanidhi that they don't want Balu he's fine with that. But Raja...has..ab ab...Karunanidhi has said about Raja very clear that I cannot leave him out because he is a Dalit. 91 00:04:45,140 --> 00:04:44,584 Male voice: Hmm. 92 00:04:56,123 --> 00:04:57,069 Male voice: Hmm. 93 00:04:57,069 --> 00:05:00,472 Nira: I have to keep him in and he's his closest he's not going to leave him out. 94 00:05:00,472 --> 00:05:03,364 Male voice: But can he be put somewhere other than Telecom 95 00:05:03,364 --> 00:05:10,105 Nira: You still have a far better....We are having Raja in Telecom because he will behave himself. Trust me, he'll behave himself. 96 00:05:10,105 --> 00:05:12,493 Male voice: But there're too many people against him. 97 00:05:12,493 --> 00:05:14,579 Nira: That's only the Sunil Mittal's, no? 98 00:05:14,579 --> 00:05:15,955 Male voice: May be but they must be lobbying... 99 00:05:15,955 --> 00:05:22,675 Nira: I've promised, no no but i've promised aa aa Raja's promised that he'll speak to Sunil Mittal and deal with the matter. 100 00:05:22,675 --> 00:05:25,954 Male voice: Sunil has lobbied against him I believe, I haven't talked to Sunil... 101 00:05:25,954 --> 00:05:38,976 Nira: Ya, but, ya I don't think, but he'll come in Telecom is being given to them. And eehh...I'll tell you one thing, ehh aa eehh aa...rai..aa Karunanidhi will give Telecom only to uh, Raja, he will not give it to Dayanidhi. 102 00:05:38,976 --> 00:05:40,118 Male voice: Hm mmm. 103 00:05:40,118 --> 00:05:42,575 Nira: He's very clear about that. 104 00:05:42,575 --> 00:05:44,628 Male voice: Ok. I'll talk to them. Hmm? 105 00:05:44,628 --> 00:05:54,058 Nira: Eh.. that I can assure Sunil that this not be a problem. Raja will not go against him. He needs to trust me on that one. 106 00:05:54,058 --> 00:05:54,856 Male voice: Okay. 107 00:05:54,856 --> 00:05:59,940 Nira: I'll take him to him and they eeh.. Sunil's been very arrogant with him as well it's not been just a one-sided... 108 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:00,381 Male voice: Ya, i'm sure he has been. 109 00:06:00,381 --> 00:06:05,704 Nira: Ya, he's been extremely arrogant. If he hasn't been the way he was this problem wouldn't have arisen. 110 00:06:05,704 --> 00:06:10,941 Male voice: Hmm. mmm. Mmm. Ok. I will talk, I'll let you know. Hmm? 111 00:06:10,941 --> 00:06:13,714 Nira: Ya? But tell them to talk through Kanimuri it will go directly... 112 00:06:13,714 --> 00:06:13,854 Male voice: Okay. 113 00:06:13,854 --> 00:06:14,979 Nira: It will work out, ya? 114 00:06:14,979 --> 00:06:15,938 Male voice: Ok. Done. 115 00:06:15,938 --> 00:06:19,736 Nira: Who's, why why's Bhardwaj left out? 116 00:06:19,736 --> 00:06:22,467 Male voice: I was surprised to see that myself. 117 00:06:22,467 --> 00:06:23,218 Nira: Hmm. 118 00:06:23,218 --> 00:06:26,664 Male voice: I don't know. I don't know there's something which I don't know. 119 00:06:26,664 --> 00:06:27,902 Nira: Hm. Hmm. 120 00:06:27,902 --> 00:06:29,330 Nira: Aa. I was suprised. 121 00:06:29,330 --> 00:06:35,954 Nira: But, ya, but you know aa aa, Just listen no that Karunanidhi has no great shakes about Balu and Maran. If Congress gives him a little hint.. 122 00:06:35,954 --> 00:06:36,658 Male voice: Hmm. 123 00:06:36,658 --> 00:06:41,225 Nira: But Congress has said to somebody else that we don't want to give Infrastructure... 124 00:06:41,225 --> 00:06:41,332 Male voice: Hmm. 125 00:06:41,332 --> 00:06:42,777 Nira:...to Balu or Maran 126 00:06:42,777 --> 00:06:43,924 Male voice:Hmm. 127 00:06:43,924 --> 00:06:53,459 Nira: That's rightly so. They don't want...they should tell that too aa..if they say we are not pushing for Maran, Congress will drop him like a hot potato, they hate him. 128 00:06:53,459 --> 00:06:54,765 Male voice: Ya, they do. Hm. (Tape ends) 129 00:06:54,765 --> 00:06:54,765 Nira: Ya, so why don't just aa... Phone ends abruptly.