Phone Rings (Pal pal har pal)
Radia: Hi. Ganapathy: How are you?
Radia: Law ministry has basically issued a statement saying that he's not been approached by anybody. And, it is clarified that as on date no reference has been received by this department on the issue of either ministry of petroleum or other ministry...the department has not expressed any view on the matter after the Monday High Court judgment on this issue.
Radia: What's your email ID Ganu now? What is the new ID? Ganapathy: I think we can now use the normal ID which is [ganapathy05@gmail.com]. (Spells it out).
Radia: Okay. I'll just keep on forwarding you these as I get. Ganapathy: Sure. And if I touch base with Azhagiri?
Radia: Azhagiri, you should talk to him, no? Ganapathy: Just in case, you know, if I need to speak to him or something..
Radia: Let me know. If you need anything, if you need to be introduced, I will just tell him. Ganapathy: Sure. I can speak to him in his own language, and ..
Radia: That will be much easier for him also. Ganapathy: Yeah. I am sure he will definitely have a role to play in this na? Entire business of uh...
Ganapathy: Since fertilizer units are involved and all that.. so, allocation etc.. Radia: Correct. He has got a view in any case on this issue.
Ganapathy: Because I am not very sure about this Chaturvedi. What he does or doesn't do.. but this one.. we will have a final say you know.. in case of any dispute or anything he will be the one who will be deciding.
Radia: Anyway the Prime Minister is going to have a final say. It's like the airport, exactly what happened in the airport, this is something that I don't think Murli or anyone...this way the Prime Minister is going to turn on and say, 'What the hell is going on? I'm not running a banana republic!'
Ganapathy: In that case I don't think nobody will have any major this thing to do. Radia: Yeah. That is exactly like what happened. And what I am seeing, between you and me.. because you and I were both involved in the airport case...
Radia: You know, between you and me, I see every clear direction coming in from the Prime Minister. Maybe the Petroleum Ministry is gonna have to react, because of the Nodal Ministry that has to file the case, but ultimately they have a very clear direction on this one.
Radia: Anil's been running around apparently trying to get EGoMs appointed. And the government feels that you know, what nonsense is this? So they are not moving into that.. because I don't think there will be any such.. there will be issues before other things.
Radia: Like you said yesterday, yeah. Not for this issue. They are very clear that nobody- no Mukesh Ambani, no High Court has jurisdiction over national assets.
Radia: That's the domain of the government. Ganapathy: But the other 40 that has to be decided na? The other 40 has to be decided, then allocation business if there is anything remaining, that needs to be decided..
Radia: Obviously the requests are there, so 60 plus .. government is already na .. they are not going to end up paying huge subsidy bills, like I told you earlier today.
Ganapathy: That I will... that you know, next (indiscernible) - 2G and this one...I will do that. I've already told these people. See, today - the moment you told me, we immediately started you know, running and putting it on our TV channel. And I immediately told Supriya to get ready and speak about it. So immediately that was done and in the meanwhile, we had written all that needs to be written.
Ganapathy: Once the direction is set, we are putting it on the TV screen. And then we write it. So it happens very quickly. But, today this Chalasani guy was also trying to act very smart. You know, trying ..
Radia: He is saying that there is...he is saying that the High Court judgment and such such has already covered that but you know, that is fine. High Court judgment can say whatever he likes, but we say there is no clarity because, as far as we are concerned, they are answerable to the government.
Ganapathy: And Dev and Vinoba were jumping. I think they were probably you know, sort of, given some direction by Avi. But in the end we told them ki (that) this is the first time that RIL is reacting. So, that should be given more play. That will be done, don't worry. And I have told them also to put..
Radia: Why was Dev and Vinoba(?) jumping?
Ganapathy: They wanted that RNRL award, that Chalsani was saying that should be you know, sort of, the way they had reacted then all that. So, that kind of feeling they wanted to give. But he told them very clearly that everything is already, all the details are with us.
Ganapathy: This is only a response, so let's play this big and then include that. So finally somebody is sitting and you know...working on these two issues and making it into one report.
Ganapathy: I have told them what to do. Whatever these important points are, that were in that little mail, those will be taken in detail - no problem at all.
Radia: You have got that na? That 3, 5.. two plots I gave you na? Ganapathy: Yeah yeah. Radia: Great.
Radia: Ganu, it's Ganapathy na? G-A-N-A na? Ganapathy: Yeah N-A. Radia: Okay I got that, okay just sending you this law ministry thing. (Tape ends)