1 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:11,743 (Phone ringing) 2 00:00:11,743 --> 00:00:14,048 Manoj: Hello! Nira: Manoj! Manoj: Haan! (Yes). 3 00:00:14,048 --> 00:00:20,447 Nira: Manoj the thing is that I spoke to MN. Manoj: Haan! (Yes) Nira: ... (Unclear)... Manoj: Sorry? 4 00:00:20,447 --> 00:00:24,031 Nira: It is a completely one-sided judgement. Manoj: Ok! 5 00:00:24,031 --> 00:00:32,223 Nira: If you see how well they are...They have got themselves organised. They have got Mukul Rohatgi, everybody available for comment. Manoj: Haan (Yes). 6 00:00:32,223 --> 00:00:39,136 Nira: Now the thing is...What I want to know is can we... Manoj: . (Yes). 7 00:00:39,136 --> 00:00:44,512 Nira: ...(Unclear)... Manoj: Haan (Yes). Sorry? 8 00:00:44,512 --> 00:00:55,520 Nira: What are the recommendations we need to give very quickly. One is...this is a...I mean if you look at the price, the price has been determined by the government. There can't be dual pricing. 9 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,408 Manoj: Yeah! Nira: Now, who would be the ideal person to say that RIL can't say that? Manoj: Yes! 10 00:01:01,408 --> 00:01:07,551 Nira: Huh? Manoj: Mohan Parasaran. Nira: So that is one recommendation. 11 00:01:07,551 --> 00:01:16,768 Manoj: No, no but I... Boss is mai kya hai na... (Boss what is here is that...) ...till the final judgement see, Mahesh Jethmalani has claimed that we have won the case. 12 00:01:16,768 --> 00:01:27,263 Manoj: Now it will be interesting to know whether in the order to 2.34 is mentioned. 17 years is mentioned. 20 years MMSCMD is mentioned as a part of the order. 13 00:01:27,263 --> 00:01:31,104 Nira: It is Manoj. Manoj: Is it? Nira: All three parts. Yes. 14 00:01:31,104 --> 00:01:36,479 Manoj: Ok. Nira: That is what Raja tells me, that is what MM tells me. Manoj: Ok! 15 00:01:36,479 --> 00:01:41,088 Nira: Haan! (Yes) Manoj: So Mohan Parasaran has to say that we will go against. 16 00:01:41,088 --> 00:01:56,704 Nira: Has to say what? Manoj: That see Mohan Parasaran has said that we will calculate the price of gas at 4.2. Whether RIL wants to supply it to RNRL at 2.34 is their prerogative but we will calculate it as 4.2. 17 00:01:56,704 --> 00:02:02,847 Nira: Right! Manoj: Yeah? Nira: But that hurts RIL na? Because they will have to subsidise it. 18 00:02:02,847 --> 00:02:09,759 Manoj: Yes that is right. They are subsidising it because they had entered into an agreement with RNRL. Family agreement or whatever. 19 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:15,391 Nira: That is exactly what the media is carrying na, that it is a loss of 3000 crores to RIL. Manoj: Hmm! 20 00:02:15,391 --> 00:02:21,023 Nira: Because duty and all that will have to be paid by RIL. Manoj: Yes. 21 00:02:21,023 --> 00:02:31,007 Nira: That doesn't help our argument, na Manoj? Manoj: Yes. Nira: ... argument is...(Unclear)... Manoj: Sorry? 22 00:02:31,007 --> 00:02:34,335 Nira: The only thing that helps our argument is dual pricing. Manoj: Yes. 23 00:02:34,335 --> 00:02:37,918 Nira: The government will have to say that there will not be dual pricing. Manoj: Yes. 24 00:02:37,918 --> 00:02:43,807 Nira: Natural gas is a...(Unclear)...of India. Manoj: Hmm! 25 00:02:43,807 --> 00:02:50,463 Nira: There cannot be one single set of families that can be deciding...(Unclear)... Manoj: Hmm! 26 00:02:50,463 --> 00:02:54,559 Nira: So that is the sort of argument we can come out today. Manoj: Teek Hai. (Ok) 27 00:02:54,559 --> 00:02:59,167 Nira: And quickly early. Can you do me a quick draft mail please. Manoj: Sure, ok. 28 00:02:59,167 --> 00:03:08,895 Nira: Or you send it and that is the way we will have to move. The Government will have to...Mohan Prasaran is already speaking. He is only speaking limited to the fact that they will...(Unclear)... 29 00:03:08,895 --> 00:03:14,271 Manoj: They will? Sorry! Nira: He is saying that we will have to go to Supreme Court. Manoj: Ok. 30 00:03:14,271 --> 00:03:21,951 Nira: He is saying that RIL and...Mokal Rohatgi of course also has said that he is almost certain that RIL will go to Supreme Court. 31 00:03:21,951 --> 00:03:26,815 Nira: Manoj Modi is also saying that ...Lagtha hai humko Supreme Court jana pedega. (...I thing that we will have to go to the Supreme Court.) Manoj: Ok! 32 00:03:26,815 --> 00:03:35,776 Nira: But the thing is that immediately the messaging has to come from C Point. Why is Mohan Prasaran...They are saying that it can be the Finance Ministry that can say that this cannot be a loss to the exchequer. 33 00:03:35,776 --> 00:03:43,199 Manoj: Hmm! Nira: So whatever view they want and the court can take a view on their MOU. We don't scrutinise their MOU. Manoj: Yeah! 34 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:50,367 Nira: And we will move to whatever it is to secure one pricing. There cannot be dual pricing...(Unclear)... Manoj: Yeah! 35 00:03:50,367 --> 00:03:54,463 Nira: ...(Unclear)...from the government. Manoj: Yeah! 36 00:03:54,463 --> 00:03:56,680 Nira: So can you quickly draft that for me and... So I can quickly send it to Mukesh and MM. (Tape ends)