1 00:00:04,335 --> 00:00:13,238 (phone rings) 2 00:00:13,238 --> 00:00:18,304 SA: Hello? NR: Sunil, hi. SA: Haanji? NR: I'm sorry, I've been so caught up in my court case na... 3 00:00:18,304 --> 00:00:26,030 SA: Nahin nahin, koi baat nahin... (No, no problem) NR: Achha listen, they have approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee... SA: Yes, I found out... 4 00:00:26,030 --> 00:00:40,873 NR: Yeah, no, yesterday I spoke to him, he's in Israel right now. He said he's not- I told him I have to send him a note as to what's been going on over the last five years, SA: hmm NR: ...and why. But I think he is going to meet the Prime Minister. SA: hmm 5 00:00:40,873 --> 00:00:51,331 NR: Because I don't... He is not going to do it. SA: hmm NR: I said because the only reason they are asking you to do this is because they want you to ratify all the deals that they have done. And all the bad stuff. SA: That's right, that's right. Exactly NR: Yeah, so they want credibiliity and all that. 6 00:00:51,331 --> 00:01:05,592 NR: So he said- I told him I'd speak to you, SA: hmm NR: - he said can you ask Sunil to give me a 5-7 page letter SA: hmm NR: which spells out what has been going on, SA: hmm NR: so that when I meet Prime Minister- 7 00:01:05,592 --> 00:01:12,848 SA: When is he meeting Prime Minister? NR: When he comes back. He is meeting him on Saturday. He is coming back on Friday SA: Haan (Okay) NR: and he'll take(?) time next week. SA: Theek hai (Okay) 8 00:01:12,848 --> 00:01:20,607 NR: So he says if you ask him to send me a note, SA: hmm NR: which tells me exactly what's been going on, SA: hmm NR: and what is the thing. And I've spoken to him about you. 9 00:01:20,607 --> 00:01:28,541 NR: Tarun Das is speaking about you, by the way, to Prime Minister, as soon as he comes back from his G8 SA: hmm 10 00:01:28,541 --> 00:01:33,478 W: Woh maine toh, aaa, sab... de diya usko... (I gave it all to him) 11 00:01:33,478 --> 00:01:38,339 NR: because Tarun himself has said that I wanted Sunil to become the CII DG. 12 00:01:38,339 --> 00:01:49,866 NR: So.. uh.. He was he was pretty keen and Baijal ka meeting Friday ko hai D.K. Nair ke saath. (Baijal's meeting with DK Nair is on Friday) SA: hmm NR: toh.. the umm.. they're all.. I think everyone is in agreement now. 13 00:01:49,866 --> 00:02:16,737 NR: Jojo, SA: hmm NR: -from Times of India is going to run a complete 2 page story on how they've destroyed Air India. SA: haan NR: Toh,uske liye (And for that...) he knows you quiet well Jojo,he says he's met you a few times. SA: off the head dhyaan nahin hai. (I don't know) NR: Toh, jojo is telling me- Jojo is the Editor-in-Chief at Times Group na. SA: No no, I know about him, but NR: haan SA: may be once or twice I've met. Mujhe off-hand dhyaan nahin hai. haan.. 14 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:31,738 NR: So he's going to probably send someone across to you, or if you are going to be in Delhi. now, He's in Bombay though. S: haan NR: so who ever is going to write that story, whichever journalist is going to do it.... But they're going to do a massive thing as to how Air India has been raped. They're... SA: hmm 15 00:02:31,738 --> 00:03:07,238 SA: So When i write for Mr. Ratan Tata, NR: hmm SA: do I also mention that uh.. I mean it is note from him. But do I also mention in third person that it is understood that..., there are 2 major issues now- Out 5-6 major issues there 2 issues a) Air India Express. NR: hmm SA: On Air India Express, as a Board member, I had raised a series of issues. Officially. NR: hmm 16 00:03:07,238 --> 00:03:25,117 SA: So can we just write the sentence like - "one of the board members has brought these things to the discussion...board"- or what..? Or would he not like to show that much, this thing? 17 00:03:25,117 --> 00:03:47,684 NR: No I think you should put it down. I think you should write him a note that you're writing to, uh,... is that he will read and he will then translate in whichever way he wants to translate and send it. SA: Hmm NR: You understand na. SA: Haan haan. Theek hai…Theek hai. NR: Thats the way it will be. SA: haan. NR: yeah. 18 00:03:47,684 --> 00:04:05,162 SA: Bilateral toh I will have to check the recent information. NR: Bilateral, woh woh woh.. airline deals, the aircraft deals… all that. SA: Yeah yeah 5-6 things na. One is aircraft deal, NR: hmm SA: other is bilateral. Other is Air India Express. NR: hmm 19 00:04:05,162 --> 00:04:36,251 SA: Other is …this sale and lease back of aircraft. On sale and lease back of aircraft again, it all happened after I left. NR: hmm. SA: So I would only, I would also know…sketchy details... but I'll kind of, try to take assistance of one or two people… who have retired. I know one person who has retired who is in touch with me… he used to be in planning. I'll not tell him the purpose ofcourse. NR: Hmm SA: Hmm 20 00:04:36,251 --> 00:04:50,674 SA: Vijay Kumar used to be in planning. NR: hmm SA: That too planning- and he was dealing with these things and he had been putting up small-small notes. Anyway, I'll make it. Because obviously, he'll meet him only when Prime Minister returns from Italy. 21 00:04:50,674 --> 00:05:07,215 NR: And I also want to offline give him the details joh tumne bheji thi na, pura dossier. SA: hmm NR: Woh toh main doongi na usko. SA: That's my letter to Cabinet Secretary NR: For his own information na. SA: Eh? No, that i can give you yeah, with you I have no issues. 22 00:05:07,215 --> 00:05:27,527 SA: The issue is that it remains with him, and he destroys it after reading it. NR: Hmm?! SA: My letter to Cabinet Secretary, NR: hmm SA: he can read and then destroy it. NR: Haan, I'll have to give it to him and he'll destroy it. Naturally, he's not going to.. He needs to have a background ke what the hell are they asking him to do na. SA: Haan, then I'll send the letter. I have the letter 23 00:05:27,527 --> 00:05:37,973 NR: You tell me when everything is done, I'll send someone to pick it up. SA: Haan. NR: I also need, separately, ((SMS alert tone)) in your own words.. for Tarun Das. SA: in? NR: for Tarun Das. SA: haan 24 00:05:37,973 --> 00:05:42,516 NR: For Tarun Das, in your own words, what do you think needs to be done, 25 00:05:42,516 --> 00:05:54,306 NR: but no why should you tell them what should be done, otherwise they will use what has to be done and give it for your benefit na. SA: haan. NR: hmm SA: That's not that good. I mean that toh… you want me to give that? 26 00:05:54,306 --> 00:05:56,893 (pause) 27 00:05:56,893 --> 00:06:10,189 NR: Accha dekho Sunil mujhe ek kaam zaroor hai, ke, you have to -in fact Tarun Das has sent me a sms just now, which I'm just seeing now, which has come on my other phone. SA: hmm NR: He wants me to call him urgently. So it must be about this only. SA: hmm NR: Let me call him and call you back. SA: ok. NR: ok.