1 00:00:13,123 --> 00:00:13,715 Tarun Das: Hi 2 00:00:13,715 --> 00:00:15,197 Niira: Hi! 3 00:00:15,197 --> 00:00:16,114 Tarun Das: How are you? 4 00:00:16,114 --> 00:00:17,586 Niira: I'm fine. I'm looking at you son's chart. 5 00:00:17,586 --> 00:00:20,424 Tarun Das: Oh my gosh! Yeh.. 6 00:00:20,424 --> 00:00:22,493 Niira: Just as well, I know how to read it no? (Giggles) 7 00:00:22,493 --> 00:00:24,398 Tarun Das: Yah! You get a chart? 8 00:00:24,398 --> 00:00:30,590 Niira: One of the hazards of being from a family which knew how to do that...(Giggles) 9 00:00:30,590 --> 00:00:32,237 Tarun Das: Right, right... 10 00:00:32,237 --> 00:00:37,838 Niira: You've learnt it as... No, I mean I spoke to myyy ehh my cousin and if you want to speak to him then he said he will speak to you... 11 00:00:37,838 --> 00:00:39,886 Tarun Das: Ok. 12 00:00:39,886 --> 00:00:43,075 Niira: Ehh.. amm.. and I can just connect the both of you... I can give you his number. 13 00:00:43,075 --> 00:00:44,180 Tarun Das: Sure... 14 00:00:44,180 --> 00:00:47,102 Niira: But he's got a good phase huh! He's got sixteen years of Jupiter! 15 00:00:47,102 --> 00:00:48,436 Tarun Das: What does that mean? 16 00:00:48,436 --> 00:00:55,133 Niira: It means very good. Its a very good phase for him, very positive. Right now since April, I know he is, even though he's moved out of a job... 17 00:00:55,133 --> 00:00:56,098 Tarun Das: Hmmmm.. 18 00:00:56,098 --> 00:00:59,525 Niira: But he's got a very important planet which is Jupiter into Mercury, he'll do well! 19 00:00:59,525 --> 00:01:00,756 Tarun Das: Hmm. Huh?!. 20 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:07,492 Niira: Ya, I think he, there's just an opportunity that will come to him... aaa...you can see that actually... it's ehh... 21 00:01:07,492 --> 00:01:09,050 Tarun Das: Hm. 22 00:01:09,050 --> 00:01:18,862 Niira: He's got a ...he's got a very...I can see very positive signs for sixteen years...at least till 2018 he's really going to be on a high and even then after that his period's quite good. 23 00:01:18,862 --> 00:01:19,600 Tarun Das: Hm. Hmm... 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,985 Niira: Why does he want to get married? 25 00:01:21,985 --> 00:01:23,564 Tarun Das: Why doesn't he want to get? 26 00:01:23,564 --> 00:01:24,678 Niira: Hmm... 27 00:01:24,678 --> 00:01:25,181 Tarun Das: Or why does he want to get? 28 00:01:25,181 --> 00:01:26,824 Niira: No, why doesn't he? 29 00:01:26,824 --> 00:01:29,432 Tarun Das: I want him to get married...no he...i...think... 30 00:01:29,432 --> 00:01:30,963 Niira: May be he'll get married this year... 31 00:01:30,963 --> 00:01:33,571 Tarun Das: He's worried about finances I think. 32 00:01:33,571 --> 00:01:36,477 Niira: Hmm. He looks like he'll get married huh, next year. 33 00:01:36,477 --> 00:01:38,094 Tarun Das: That will be great. 34 00:01:38,094 --> 00:01:40,547 Niira: Hmm. Looks like in this fortieth year. Forty huh? 35 00:01:40,547 --> 00:01:41,785 Tarun Das: Ya, he's forty. 36 00:01:41,785 --> 00:01:46,137 Niira: Ya, he'll get married next year, by the look of things...but i'll ask aa Anup to tell you in detail... 37 00:01:46,137 --> 00:01:46,606 Tarun Das: Hm hm.. 38 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:49,709 Niira: I'm only giving my two little bit of what I can see of it...(Giggles) 39 00:01:49,709 --> 00:01:50,962 Tarun Das: Huh Hm. 40 00:01:50,962 --> 00:01:53,015 Niira: His number aa? Shall I ask him to call you? 41 00:01:53,015 --> 00:01:56,804 Tarun Das: No I'll call him, I'm going to South Africa for the two matches, 42 00:01:56,804 --> 00:01:57,844 Niira: Okay... 43 00:01:57,844 --> 00:01:59,386 Tarun Das: ...tonight, taking Aurup with me. 44 00:01:59,386 --> 00:02:00,334 Niira: Okay... 45 00:02:00,334 --> 00:02:01,774 Tarun Das: Now i'm going for the swearing in ceremony, 46 00:02:01,774 --> 00:02:03,123 Niira: Ah huh... 47 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:03,397 Tarun Das: ...for which i've been invited... 48 00:02:03,397 --> 00:02:04,238 Niira: Right... 49 00:02:04,238 --> 00:02:06,041 Tarun Das: ...for which I've been invited without your friends from the DMK. 50 00:02:06,041 --> 00:02:19,753 Niira: Ya but you know, you please can you tell the Congress for me, please, they are listening to Dayanidhi Maran, they are talking to the wrong people. Karunanidhi doesn't even know what's going on. He gave them a list on Monday night... 51 00:02:19,753 --> 00:02:20,761 Tarun Das: Hmm... 52 00:02:20,761 --> 00:02:21,981 Niira: ...which was Dayanidhi Maran - Railways, Azhagiri - Surface, 53 00:02:21,981 --> 00:02:23,427 Tarun Das: Hmm.. 54 00:02:23,427 --> 00:02:25,123 Niira: Kani - Health, 55 00:02:25,123 --> 00:02:27,044 Tarun Das: Hmm. 56 00:02:27,044 --> 00:02:27,186 Niira: Power - Baalu 57 00:02:27,186 --> 00:02:28,623 Tarun Das: Hmm. 58 00:02:28,623 --> 00:02:30,617 Niira: ...and Telecom - Raja... 59 00:02:30,617 --> 00:02:31,613 Tarun Das: Yaa.. 60 00:02:31,613 --> 00:02:33,587 Niira: He knew that Power and Railways would get dropped. 61 00:02:33,587 --> 00:02:34,835 Tarun Das: Hmm 62 00:02:34,835 --> 00:02:39,022 Niira: He needed them to come back and say that I cannot give you this and this. 63 00:02:39,022 --> 00:02:39,865 Tarun Das: Hmm. 64 00:02:39,865 --> 00:02:47,298 Niira: He would have dealt with the rest of it himself. Instead Congress went into a bit of a tizzy didn't know what they were saying to him... 65 00:02:47,298 --> 00:02:47,876 Tarun Das: Hm. 66 00:02:47,876 --> 00:02:56,668 Niira: ...and it went all wrong and allowed Dayanidhi Maran to drive the bargaining and including whatever they are telling Dayanidhi Maran is not going back to Karunanidhi in its correct form. 67 00:02:56,668 --> 00:02:58,345 Tarun Das: Hmm. Hm. 68 00:02:58,345 --> 00:03:00,009 Niira: He's distorting everything that's going to him. 69 00:03:00,009 --> 00:03:01,442 Tarun Das: Hmm.. 70 00:03:01,442 --> 00:03:17,710 Niira: And he's got one daughter telling him I'll commit suicide, he's got one aaa wife saying I'll do this and... so he's... that whole... if Congress had just dealt with that list they may have got away with even two members of cabinet. Because Azhagiri had agreed to be MOS independent if Dayanidhi was not made a Cabinet Minister. 71 00:03:17,710 --> 00:03:19,192 Tarun Das: Hm Hmm. 72 00:03:19,192 --> 00:03:32,285 Niira: ..But because Congress kept on... ehh...Dayanidhi kept on saying tooo... Raj - ehh...to his leader that Congress Ahmed Patel's been in touch with him and Ahmed Patel's had asked him for swearing in...when Raja... when the leader has not even authorised him to negotiate. 73 00:03:32,285 --> 00:03:33,485 Tarun Das: Hmm.. 74 00:03:33,485 --> 00:03:38,923 Niira: So basically dealt it with through Kanimozhi who's been with him right through, Prime Minister also through.. spoke via her. 75 00:03:38,923 --> 00:03:40,356 Tarun Das: Hmm. 76 00:03:40,356 --> 00:03:43,397 Niira: They needed to speak to Kanimozhi and Kanimozhi would have taken them directly to her father. 77 00:03:43,397 --> 00:03:44,861 Tarun Das: Hm Hmm. 78 00:03:44,861 --> 00:03:54,274 Niira: The matter would have been resolved there. He does not want four. The only reason four are being asked is because Azhagiri cannot be an MOS when Karuna... ehh when Maran is a Cabinet Minister. 79 00:03:54,274 --> 00:03:55,543 Tarun Das: Hmm. Hm. 80 00:03:55,543 --> 00:04:01,518 Niira: So, when they offered three and Maran kept on telling them that they want him to be a Cabinet Minister. 81 00:04:01,518 --> 00:04:04,845 Tarun Das: Why don't they keep Maran out? Why do they have to have Maran? 82 00:04:04,845 --> 00:04:12,947 Niira: They... they...he he needs help from Congress a little bit on that one. Because he thinks Karuna... that Congress is supporting Maran. 83 00:04:12,947 --> 00:04:13,764 Tarun Das: Ohhk ok... 84 00:04:13,764 --> 00:04:18,233 Niira: If Congress gives him a message that we've not given any message for Maran at all.. 85 00:04:18,233 --> 00:04:19,255 Tarun Das: Hmm. 86 00:04:19,255 --> 00:04:31,820 Niira: ..he will be... they would have got away with two cabinets. Because Kar...Kani and Azhagiri had both agreed that we will stick to MOS independent and Raja and Baalu can come and it doesn't matter. Or we'll bring in somebody new. 87 00:04:31,820 --> 00:04:36,628 Tarun Das: They don't want re.. he...eehh.. Manmohan Singh doesn't want Raja and Baalu. 88 00:04:36,628 --> 00:04:41,897 Niira: No, he's not said Raja, he's indicated ok about Raja to them only Baalu he doesn't want. 89 00:04:41,897 --> 00:04:44,584 Tarun Das: Baalu's of course been terrible. Niira: Ya, he doesn't want Baalu. 90 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:56,123 Niira: So, if somebody can relay that to Karunanidhi that they don't want Baalu he's fine with that. But Raja...has..ab ab...Karunanidhi has said about Raja very clear that I cannot leave him out because he is a Dalit. 91 00:04:45,140 --> 00:04:44,584 Male voice: Hmm. 92 00:04:56,123 --> 00:04:57,069 Tarun Das: Hmm. 93 00:04:57,069 --> 00:05:00,472 Niira: I have to keep him in and he's his closest he's not going to leave him out. 94 00:05:00,472 --> 00:05:03,364 Tarun Das: But can he be put somewhere other than Telecom 95 00:05:03,364 --> 00:05:10,105 Niira: You still have a far better....We are having Raja in Telecom because he will behave himself. Trust me, he'll behave himself. 96 00:05:10,105 --> 00:05:12,493 Tarun Das: But there're too many people against him. 97 00:05:12,493 --> 00:05:14,579 Niira: That's only the Sunil Mittal's, no? 98 00:05:14,579 --> 00:05:15,955 Tarun Das: May be but they must be lobbying... 99 00:05:15,955 --> 00:05:22,675 Niira: I've promised, no no but i've promised aa aa Raja's promised that he'll speak to Sunil Mittal and deal with the matter. 100 00:05:22,675 --> 00:05:25,954 Tarun Das: Sunil has lobbied against him I believe, I haven't talked to Sunil... 101 00:05:25,954 --> 00:05:38,976 Niira: Ya, but, ya I don't think, but he'll come in Telecom is being given to them. And eehh...I'll tell you one thing, ehh aa eehh aa...rai..aa Karunanidhi will give Telecom only to uh, Raja, he will not give it to Dayanidhi. 102 00:05:38,976 --> 00:05:40,118 Tarun Das: Hm mmm. 103 00:05:40,118 --> 00:05:42,575 Niira: He's very clear about that. 104 00:05:42,575 --> 00:05:44,628 Tarun Das: Ok. I'll talk to them. Hmm? 105 00:05:44,628 --> 00:05:54,058 Niira: Eh.. that I can assure Sunil that this not be a problem. Raja will not go against him. He needs to trust me on that one. 106 00:05:54,058 --> 00:05:54,856 Tarun Das: Okay. 107 00:05:54,856 --> 00:05:59,940 Niira: I'll take him to him and they eeh.. Sunil's been very arrogant with him as well it's not been just a one-sided... 108 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:00,381 Tarun Das: Ya, i'm sure he has been. 109 00:06:00,381 --> 00:06:05,704 Niira: Ya, he's been extremely arrogant. If he hasn't been the way he was this problem wouldn't have arisen. 110 00:06:05,704 --> 00:06:10,941 Tarun Das: Hmm. mmm. Mmm. Ok. I will talk, I'll let you know. Hmm? 111 00:06:10,941 --> 00:06:13,714 Niira: Ya? But tell them to talk through Kanimozhi it will go directly... 112 00:06:13,714 --> 00:06:13,854 Tarun Das: Okay. 113 00:06:13,854 --> 00:06:14,979 Niira: It will work out, ya? 114 00:06:14,979 --> 00:06:15,938 Tarun Das: Ok. Done. 115 00:06:15,938 --> 00:06:19,736 Niira: Who's, why why's Bhardwaj left out? 116 00:06:19,736 --> 00:06:22,467 Tarun Das: I was surprised to see that myself. 117 00:06:22,467 --> 00:06:23,218 Niira: Hmm. 118 00:06:23,218 --> 00:06:26,664 Tarun Das: I don't know. I don't know there's something which I don't know. 119 00:06:26,664 --> 00:06:27,902 Niira: Hm. Hmm. 120 00:06:27,902 --> 00:06:29,330 Tarun Das: Aa. I was suprised. 121 00:06:29,330 --> 00:06:35,954 Niira: But, ya, but you know aa aa, Just listen no that Karunanidhi has no great shakes about Baalu and Maran. If Congress gives him a little hint.. 122 00:06:35,954 --> 00:06:36,658 Tarun Das: Hmm. 123 00:06:36,658 --> 00:06:41,225 Niira: But Congress has said to somebody else that we don't want to give Infrastructure... 124 00:06:41,225 --> 00:06:41,332 Tarun Das: Hmm. 125 00:06:41,332 --> 00:06:42,777 Niira:...to Baalu or Maran 126 00:06:42,777 --> 00:06:43,924 Tarun Das: Hmm. 127 00:06:43,924 --> 00:06:53,459 Niira: That's rightly so. They don't want...they should tell that too aa..if they say we are not pushing for Maran, Congress will drop him like a hot potato, they hate him. 128 00:06:53,459 --> 00:06:54,765 Tarun Das: Ya, they do. Hm. (Tape ends) 129 00:06:54,765 --> 00:06:54,765 Niira: Ya, so why don't just aa... Phone ends abruptly.