1 00:00:08,671 --> 00:00:12,000 Vir Sanghvi: Hello. Niira Radia: Sorry to disturb you. 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,279 Vir Sanghvi: Hi, no problem, bolo (tell)? Niira Radia: They had a meeting. 3 00:00:13,279 --> 00:00:14,815 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: M.K. Narayanan had come. 4 00:00:14,815 --> 00:00:18,399 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: And as suggested it was Kani only. 5 00:00:18,399 --> 00:00:24,544 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: And they had a, they are still stuck to their four formula and one independent. 6 00:00:24,544 --> 00:00:29,407 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: But these people will also think about it and let him know tomorrow morning. He is... 7 00:00:29,407 --> 00:00:33,760 Vir Sanghvi: But they will not say anything about the family or whatever, right? Niira Radia: No. He clarified everything that you had told him. 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:39,392 Vir Sanghvi: Okay, very good. Niira Radia: I think that there was no issue and there was, and there was lot of relief from this Chief Minister's side. 9 00:00:39,392 --> 00:00:41,952 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: And he realized that, you know, this is all being done by... 10 00:00:41,952 --> 00:00:48,096 Vir Sanghvi: By Maran. Niira Radia: by this person ...yeah. But the thing is that it appears that he is still under a lot of pressure to take Maran, you know, so... 11 00:00:48,096 --> 00:00:52,192 Vir Sanghvi: Where is this coming from this pressure? Niira Radia: It's coming from Stalin and his sister Selvi. 12 00:00:52,192 --> 00:00:58,336 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: So, I believe Maran has given about 600 crores to Dayalu, Stalin's mother. 13 00:00:58,336 --> 00:01:02,688 Vir Sanghvi: 600 crores, okay? Niira Radia: 600 crores, is what I'm told. 14 00:01:02,688 --> 00:01:06,527 Vir Sanghvi: It's hard to argue with that kind of pressure? Niira Radia: Isn't it. So, he is... 15 00:01:06,527 --> 00:01:11,136 Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Niira Radia: ...but no, but he doesn't know, the father doesn't, I mean, 16 00:01:11,136 --> 00:01:14,976 Vir Sanghvi: Doesn't realize what - Niira Radia: Doesn't realize that. But this is the feedback that Azhagiri has got. 17 00:01:14,976 --> 00:01:17,024 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: And ... 18 00:01:17,024 --> 00:01:21,888 Vir Sanghvi: So, basically what they want is a little more flexibility and posts right? They want probably more cabinets or something? 19 00:01:21,888 --> 00:01:27,263 Niira Radia: They are saying one more cabinet and Kani in any case was independent charge. Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. 20 00:01:27,263 --> 00:01:34,688 Niira Radia: But if they stick to three and give independent charge, then Kani gets her independent and then Azhagiri, Baalu and Raja come in? Vir Sanghvi: That's not so bad, you know. 21 00:01:34,688 --> 00:01:36,223 Niira Radia: Yeah, so I think... Vir Sanghvi: ...unless Maran is one of the cabinet. 22 00:01:36,223 --> 00:01:42,624 Niira Radia: Yeah. But yeah, unless Maran is one of the cabinet. But I don't think he can give it to three family members. Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. 23 00:01:42,624 --> 00:01:45,183 Niira Radia: That will send a very wrong signals. Vir Sanghvi: That's right. 24 00:01:45,183 --> 00:01:54,912 Niira Radia: So, the best thing is, you know, if I don't know whether Narayanan can say that, I mean he can't say who should be the people. But he could probably go back and say that, you know, Baalu and Raja and Azhagiri is the best option and Kani, you know. 25 00:01:54,912 --> 00:02:01,312 Vir Sanghvi: And it's good for the government also, that doesn't seem to be giving it to the family. Niira Radia: Yeah. Yeah but then I don't know whether he is in the position to take names, you know. 26 00:02:01,312 --> 00:02:10,526 Vir Sanghvi: Because Baalu and Raja are saying it is being spread by Maran saying that we don't, nobody wants them because they are crooks and all that, to advance his own career, you know. 27 00:02:10,526 --> 00:02:25,375 Niira Radia: Yeah. Yeah. So, if there was anything that could be said which is, that, that you know, you know, if, if Narayanan was to come back tomorrow and say by looking, I think, we think that may be the three and we'll see a little later for the fourth one. But for now let's just look at Azhagiri, Baalu and Raja... 28 00:02:25,375 --> 00:02:29,215 Vir Sanghvi: And, and, and see Maran... Niira Radia: ...and we can give independent to Kani. 29 00:02:29,215 --> 00:02:35,871 Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Makes sense. Niira Radia: And, and that would be a, a good thing for him to say. And they are asking for Environment and Forest. 30 00:02:35,871 --> 00:02:40,991 Vir Sanghvi: See Narayanan will talk to PM. Then they have to communicate, he won't talk to the Congress President, then somebody has - Niira Radia: Hmm? 31 00:02:40,991 --> 00:02:52,767 Vir Sanghvi: He won't talk to Congress president. So, somebody says he's PM's man, he has gone on behalf of PM. So, they will, PMO will send its feedback to Congress party. So, that stage my friends will get a .... 32 00:02:52,767 --> 00:02:59,423 Niira Radia: So they will in any case speak to Ahmed, you know. Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Yeah, they will. And nothing will happen without his getting involved. 33 00:02:59,423 --> 00:03:01,472 Niira Radia: Yeah. Vir Sanghvi: So, I'll speak to him right away and convey this? 34 00:03:01,472 --> 00:03:06,847 Niira Radia: Yeah. But maybe that, you know, he would have to specify then that we are not too comfortable with Maran... Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. 35 00:03:06,847 --> 00:03:16,063 Niira Radia: ...and let it be Baalu and Raja because so much has been said and then it would also, also send a wrong message that if you don't take Baalu and Raja now. But I don't know whether they will say that, huh? 36 00:03:16,063 --> 00:03:23,487 Vir Sanghvi: I don't know. Well let's, let's. No, harm trying. Niira Radia: But therefore Kani, he is asking for, he is not told Narayanan this but they've suggested a couple of ministries. 37 00:03:23,487 --> 00:03:26,559 Vir Sanghvi: Which one? Niira Radia: But they are saying okay, Telecom is going to Raja in any case. 38 00:03:26,559 --> 00:03:28,863 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: That, the old man is very clear about. 39 00:03:28,863 --> 00:03:37,055 Vir Sanghvi: Okay. Niira Radia: But as far as the other two are concerned, he doesn't mind. He is not very fussed about Chemical, Fertilizer and Labour. Vir Sanghvi: Okay. 40 00:03:37,055 --> 00:03:50,111 Niira Radia: But for Kani, he would prefer that she gets independent charge Environment and Forest or something like that. You know, where she can get her teeth in and she is I think, she is very upright with it. So, they shouldn't have any problem with her, or by the way Aviation also. 41 00:03:50,111 --> 00:03:51,903 Vir Sanghvi: What about Civil Aviation? Niira Radia: And Civil Aviation. 42 00:03:51,903 --> 00:03:59,327 Vir Sanghvi: It gives her the, it gives her the profile she would need, you know. Niira Radia: She wants Aviation because, why she says Aviation because she can do Chennai airport, Salem and Madurai and all that, you know... 43 00:03:59,327 --> 00:04:02,911 Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Niira Radia: ...it gives her the, the foothold for the political side. Vir Sanghvi: We don't have anyone there. Let me talk. 44 00:04:02,911 --> 00:04:10,847 Niira Radia: Yeah. And she is intelligent and she will do justice, because they are saying Environment and Forest and Aviation for Kani in independent charge. Vir Sanghvi: I'll pass this on? 45 00:04:10,847 --> 00:04:13,664 Niira Radia: Yeah. Thanks. Thanks to you. Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. 46 00:04:13,664 --> 00:04:18,272 Niira Radia: That was really great huh, your, you know, you all, I mean it was exactly as you had said and... Vir Sanghvi: Okay. 47 00:04:18,272 --> 00:04:23,384 Niira Radia: They were very relieved and she was so relieved. So, wants to say thank you to you personally. Vir Sanghvi: I'll pass it... 48 00:04:23,384 --> 00:04:27,450 Niira Radia: Let's hope tomorrow it will – and Azhagiri has got all those messages. My person came back and confirmed. Vir Sanghvi: Oh, very good.