1 00:00:03,808 --> 00:00:19,935 (Phone Ringing) 2 00:00:19,935 --> 00:00:24,288 Niira: Hi Baiju! Baiju: Hi! How are you? Niira: I am fine. How are you? Baiju: Did you get my SMS? 3 00:00:24,288 --> 00:00:27,615 Niira: No! Baiju: Arrey! I sent an SMS to you. 4 00:00:27,615 --> 00:00:32,992 Niira: No! I have got no SMS from you. Baiju: Basically I am told that ICICI Bank account has come to you. 5 00:00:32,992 --> 00:00:36,320 Niira: No I have not even pitched for it so how can it come to me? 6 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:45,536 Baiju: No, no, I'Il tell you between me and you, I met someone internally there. Niira: Haan (Yes)! But it's not true. Baiju: And... 7 00:00:45,536 --> 00:00:49,376 Niira: I haven't even met them Baiju. Baiju: Ahh! Then they will ask you actually. 8 00:00:49,376 --> 00:00:59,104 Niira: It is not like we have not been called. They have been keen to talk to us but I just... Baiju: Ahh! That means my information is right. 9 00:00:59,104 --> 00:01:03,712 Niira: No but I have not even met them yet so it can't be coming to us yet na? 10 00:01:03,712 --> 00:01:09,344 Baiju: Oh! Acha, acha! Because what I had heard from from top people is that they are very keen actually. 11 00:01:09,344 --> 00:01:14,720 Baiju: That is why I send an SMS to you another feather in your cap ICICI Bank account. Niira: No I never got. I never got it. 12 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,071 Baiju: Oh acha! Sorry, sorry. Because I send it to you immediately when I got that... 13 00:01:19,071 --> 00:01:26,496 Niira: Honestly, honestly I would have... You know how I respond to you straight away if I get a message. Baiju: No, no, see! What happened, there was a conversation happened. 14 00:01:26,496 --> 00:01:36,735 Niira: Hmm! Baiju: And then they said that how, then I told them, I mean they have done a fabulous job for Tata and now they are doing it for Reliance so then they said yaa, yaa. 15 00:01:36,735 --> 00:01:41,598 Baiju: Then we will. I saw basically already internally they have decided. Niira: Hmm! 16 00:01:41,598 --> 00:01:47,232 Baiju: And then I got the impression like that, that is why I send an SMS. Otherwise I would told you that they are talking to you. 17 00:01:47,232 --> 00:01:50,560 Niira: Hmm! Because they have got... They are with AD Factors no? 18 00:01:50,560 --> 00:02:01,055 Baiju: Ahh! That I think that they want somebody else and it can be Delhi this thing and all. Kuch clout chahiye ( Some clout is needed.) That is what I heard. 19 00:02:01,055 --> 00:02:06,688 Niira: They need people who have got...They have got their own clout no? Why do they need others? 20 00:02:06,688 --> 00:02:11,551 Baiju: No, nahi... (No...) ... new CEO wants new clout and all actually. Niira: Ehuh! Ehuh! 21 00:02:11,551 --> 00:02:17,183 Baiju: That is why that thing came up actually. This is strictly between me and you aa! Please! Niira: No, no, ofcourse, ofcourse. 22 00:02:17,183 --> 00:02:21,023 Baiju: Because I was there when you got the first account of Tata's that is why I am telling you that. Niira: (Laughs.) 23 00:02:21,023 --> 00:02:31,007 Baiju: So I just thought that, then I said I, what I could do I also told them that they have... I didn't say I said like this that they have done a fabulous job for Tata's. 24 00:02:31,007 --> 00:02:36,895 Niira: Hmm! Baiju: So Reliance also, that is why Mukesh Ambani normally doesn't give any outside PR. They have got that. 25 00:02:36,895 --> 00:02:42,527 Niira: Hmm! Baiju: So they said yaa, we will... The way they were talking is that they will call you or something like that actually. 26 00:02:42,527 --> 00:02:51,231 Niira: Yaa, I know they have been... I mean they have been saying that we should meet but you know I have been so caught up and then our dates were never meeting so may be that is why... 27 00:02:51,231 --> 00:02:58,399 Baiju: Oh! Acha, acha! Niira: The fact that I have not met even them first. So I wouldn't say that I have got it. Baiju: Oh! Acha, acha! So then they must be internally thinking about it actually. Niira: Hmm! 28 00:02:58,399 --> 00:03:04,287 Baiju: Because what impression I got, that is why I came out of that building and then SMSed to you another feather in the cap ICICI Bank account. 29 00:03:04,287 --> 00:03:10,175 Baiju: Then I didn't get an SMS. Then I thought that... Niira: No, no, no. I didn't get your SMS. I would have responded to you straight away you know that. 30 00:03:10,175 --> 00:03:18,879 Baiju: Ok, ok, ok! Anyway I think that you are on their radar. Niira: (Laughs). Ok that is nice to know. That is nice to know. How are you? How are things? 31 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:24,000 Baiju: I am fine. How do you like... There is a change in the Tata's this thing now? 32 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,888 Niira: Yes I think so. I think so. There is a big change, yaa! Baiju: So that is why I told you that you should speak to Sukumar. Niira: Hmm! 33 00:03:29,888 --> 00:03:31,679 Baiju: I think you had a meeting with him no? 34 00:03:31,679 --> 00:03:39,615 Niira: No, I had a meeting with him. I met Rajiv Verma and Shobna and everyone. So we dealt with it in terms of what were the issues. So yaa, there is a change. 35 00:03:39,615 --> 00:03:49,087 Baiju: Ok. Yaa, that is why. That is why I told you if you talk to them directly then there will be much more change actually because I don't think they will be going after people or something like that. We don't believe in that actually. 36 00:03:49,087 --> 00:03:54,975 Niira: Well I don't know. I mean, you know. There is a tendency sometimes. Atleast against RIL there is still not a change. 37 00:03:54,975 --> 00:04:06,239 Baiju: But I think. I don't think so. Basically that episode is over. Taking that pamphlet and writing it that thing is over. It will be more check and balances actually now. Hmm! 38 00:04:06,239 --> 00:04:12,383 Niira: Yaa because that one thing I had insisted with Rajiv Verma, because Buma was going all over the place no? Buma and Kushbu. Baiju: Hmm! 39 00:04:12,383 --> 00:04:18,783 Niira: You know that. Baiju: See basically they should stop this taking lease and then writing it actually infact I was telling Manoj actually. 40 00:04:18,783 --> 00:04:26,207 Niira: Hmm! Baiju: Unless we stop it. Then I said that I wanted to meet PMS. He said they will expect a this thing kind of a story actually. 41 00:04:26,207 --> 00:04:30,303 Baiju: I said see boss. Aisa nahi karega... (We won't do it like this...) that we will ask some questions. He will answer. We will put it actually. 42 00:04:30,303 --> 00:04:40,287 Niira: Hmm! Hmm! Baiju, We'll do a meeting with you and PMS. I have been telling Manoj that that needs to be done. The Bombay meetings need to happen. So... 43 00:04:40,287 --> 00:04:45,664 Baiju: Yaa! Whatever. It's... Whenever he is available. Not to rush it. Niira: Hmm! 44 00:04:45,664 --> 00:04:51,295 Baiju: But whenever he is available we would like to spend atleast one hour with him so we can have a full fledged interview. 45 00:04:51,295 --> 00:04:58,720 Baiju: He can tell us what he wants to say and all. Then we can put it as a quote and... Niira: But you know we are right now in court so a lot of the matter is sub judice actually. 46 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,768 Baiju: No, no, let the court thing be over. Niira: Hmm! 47 00:05:00,768 --> 00:05:05,888 Baiju: And say aaram se... (at a relaxed pace...) Whenever he is very comfortable to speak. Niira: Right, right because... Baiju: I am not rushing. 48 00:05:05,888 --> 00:05:09,727 Niira: Because this thing has gone a bit out of control. I mean if you think about it. Baiju: Yaa! 49 00:05:09,727 --> 00:05:16,639 Niira: I mean I can't understand that how a country's national assets can be just divided up between a family you know. Baiju: Yaa! (Laughs) 50 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:20,735 Niira: I said this to Mukesh also. I mean it is very unfortunate na? 51 00:05:20,735 --> 00:05:29,440 Baiju: Hmm! And also someone is... I think there is some....people are filling up because that is what I heard from some people that they had filed a PIL against this and all. National asset is... 52 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,558 Niira: I am sure people will. I am sure people will file and I am sure people will get fed up. There are enough people out there. 53 00:05:34,558 --> 00:05:40,191 Niira: Everyone I go to keeps on telling me the same. But the thing is, Baiju you know even the MoU. Baiju: Hmm! 54 00:05:40,191 --> 00:05:43,264 Niira: It was subject to government approval. Baiju: That is right. 55 00:05:43,264 --> 00:05:50,432 Niira: So you know, you can't say that give me everything for 50% discount no? Baiju: Hmm! Hmm! Niira: I mean the price was never in the MOU. 56 00:05:50,432 --> 00:05:56,575 Baiju: Ahh haa! haa! Niira: So all this you know, you can't... You just can't cheat you way all the way, you know. All the time. 57 00:05:56,575 --> 00:06:04,511 Niira: All the time there is the same thing that I am the underdog. I am the younger brother. I should be given something different. You know. That is not good. 58 00:06:04,511 --> 00:06:12,191 Baiju: Hmm! That sentiments. He is playing around those. And also that he should concentrate on the... I mean not because of... See power projects and all he should do na. 59 00:06:12,191 --> 00:06:27,807 Niira: He should develop the... you know, Baiju he's raised 24,000 crores in money... Baiju: He has got. He raised 10 billion dollars in 2007. 5 billion dollars ACB. 2.5 billion IPO. Then another 2.5 billion dollars. 60 00:06:27,807 --> 00:06:34,975 Niira: Now if you tell me 10 billion dollars in funds. He is still asking the court for a bankruptcy agreement. Baiju: Hmm! 61 00:06:34,975 --> 00:06:45,727 Niira: ...(Unclear). Baiju: That is true and also that I am told that he is talking to hawk Reliance Communication also. 62 00:06:45,727 --> 00:06:51,104 Niira: He is trying to sell it to AT&T no? Baiju: Ahh! That is what I heard actually. 63 00:06:51,104 --> 00:06:56,992 Niira: But between you and me they will come for a ROFR. I have been getting feelers from AT&T. Baiju: Yaa! Because... 64 00:06:56,992 --> 00:07:03,135 Niira: That you know why doesn't Mukesh not come in the way. My view is very clear that the question doesn't arise. 65 00:07:03,135 --> 00:07:03,240 Niira: You know. Bijju I just got PMS on the line can you give me two minutes ill call you back? Baiju: Yaa! Yaa! Aram se... (Relax) Whenever you get time. (Tape ends)