1 00:00:04,335 --> 00:00:13,238 (phone rings) 2 00:00:13,238 --> 00:00:18,304 SA: Hello? NR: Sunil, hi. SA: Haanji? NR: I'm sorry, I've been so caught up in my court case na... 3 00:00:18,304 --> 00:00:26,030 SA: Nahin nahin, koi baat nahin... (No, no problem) NR: Achha listen, they have approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee... SA: Yes, I found out... 4 00:00:26,030 --> 00:00:40,873 NR: Yeah, no, yesterday I spoke to him, he's in Israel right now. He said he's not- I told him I have to send him a note as to what's been going on over the last five years, SA: hmm NR: ...and why. But I think he is going to meet the Prime Minister. SA: hmm 5 00:00:40,873 --> 00:00:51,331 NR: Because I don't,... He is not going to do it. SA: hmm NR: I said because the only reason they are asking you to do this is because they want you to ratify all the deals that they have done. And all the... SA: That's right, that's right. Exactly NR: Yeah, so they want credibiliity and all that. 6 00:00:51,331 --> 00:01:05,592 NR: So he said- I told him I'd speak to you, SA: hmm NR: - he said can you ask Sunil to give me a 5-7 page letter SA: hmm NR: which spells out what has been going on, SA: hmm NR: so that when I meet Prime Minister- 7 00:01:05,592 --> 00:01:12,848 SA: When is he meeting Prime Minister? NR: When he comes back. He is meeting him on Saturday. He is coming back on Friday SA: Haan (Okay) NR: and he'll take(?) time next week. SA: Theek hai (Okay) 8 00:01:12,848 --> 00:01:20,607 NR: So he says if you ask him to send me a note, SA: hmm NR: which tells me exactly what's been going on, SA: hmm NR: and what is the thing. And I've spoken to him about you. 9 00:01:20,607 --> 00:01:28,541 NR: Tarun Das is speaking about you, by the way, to Prime Minister, as soon as he comes back from his G8 SA: hmm 10 00:01:28,541 --> 00:01:33,478 W: Woh maine toh, aaa, sab... de diya usko... (I gave it all to him) 11 00:01:33,478 --> 00:01:38,339 NR: because Tarun himself has said that I wanted Sunil to become the CII DG. 12 00:01:38,339 --> 00:01:49,866 NR: So.. uh.. He was he was pretty keen and Baijal ka meeting Friday ko hai D.K. Nair ke saath. (Baijal's meeting with DK Nair is on Friday) SA: hmm NR: toh.. the umm.. they’re all.. I think everyone is in agreement now. 13 00:01:49,866 --> 00:02:16,737 NR: Jojo, ('Jojo' - Jaideep Bose) SA: hmm NR: -from Times of India is going to run a complete 2 page story on how they’ve destroyed Air India. SA: haan NR: Toh,uske liye (And for that...) he knows you quiet well Jojo,he says he’s met you a few times. SA: off the head dhyaan nahin hai. (I don't know) NR: Toh, jojo is telling me- Jojo is the Editor-in-Chief at Times Group na. SA: No no, I know about him, but NR: haan SA: may be once or twice I’ve met. Mujhe off-hand dhyaan nahin hai. haan.. 14 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:31,738 NR: So he’s going to probably send someone across to you, or if you are going to be in Delhi. now, He’s in Bombay though. S: haan NR: so who ever is going to write that story, whichever journalist is going to do it.... But they’re going to do a massive thing as to how Air India has been raped. They’re... SA: hmm 15 00:02:31,738 --> 00:03:07,238 SA: So When i write for Mr. Ratan Tata, NR: hmm SA: do I also mention that uh.. I mean it is note from him. But do I also mention one third person that it is understood that..., there are 2 major issues now- Out 5-6 major issues there 2 issues a) Air India Express. NR: hmm SA: On Air India Express, as a Board member, I had raised a series of issues. Officially. NR: hmm 16 00:03:07,238 --> 00:03:25,117 SA: So can I just write the sentence like,- “one of the board members has brought these things to.. the discussion...board”- or what..? I would not like to show that much, this thing. 17 00:03:25,117 --> 00:03:47,684 NR: No I think you should put it down. I think you should write him a note that you’re writing to, uh,... is that he will read and he will then translate in whichever way he wants to translate and send it. SA: Hmm NR: You understand na. SA: Haan haan. Theek hai…Theek hai. NR: Thats the way it will be. SA: haan. NR: yeah. 18 00:03:47,684 --> 00:04:05,162 SA: Bilateral toh I will have to check the recent information. NR: Bilateral, woh woh woh.. airline deals, the aircraft deals… all that. SA: Yeah yeah 5-6 things na. One is aircraft deal, NR: hmm SA: other is bilateral. Other is Air India Express. NR: hmm 19 00:04:05,162 --> 00:04:36,251 SA: Other is …this sale and lease back of aircraft. On sale and lease back of aircraft again, it all happened after I left. NR: hmm. SA: So I would only, I would also know…sketchy details... but I’ll kind of, try to take assistance of one or two people… who have retired. I know one who has retired who is in touch with me… he used to be in planning.. Though I’ll not tell him the purpose ofcourse. NR: hmm SA: Hmm 20 00:04:36,251 --> 00:04:50,674 SA: Vijay Kumar used to be in planning. NR: hmm SA: That too planning- and he was dealing with these things and he had been putting up small-small notes. Anyway, I’ll make it. Because obviously, he’ll meet him only when Prime Minister returns from Italy. 21 00:04:50,674 --> 00:05:07,215 NR: And I also want to offline give him the details joh tumne bheji thi na, pura dossier. SA: hmm NR: Woh toh main doongi na usko. SA: That’s my letter to Cabinet Secretary NR: For his own information na. SA: Eh? No, that i can give you yeah, with you I have no issues. 22 00:05:07,215 --> 00:05:27,527 SA: The issue is that it remains with him, and he destroys it after reading it. NR: Hmm?! SA: My letter to Cabinet Secretary, NR: hmm SA: he can read and then destroy it. NR: Haan, I’ll have to give it to him and he’ll destroy it. Naturally, he’s not going to.. He needs to have a background ke what the hell are they asking him to do na. SA: Haan, then I’ll send the letter. I have the letter 23 00:05:27,527 --> 00:05:37,973 NR: You tell me when everything is done, I’ll send someone to pick it up. SA: Haan. NR: I also need, separately, ((SMS alert tone)) in your own words.. for Tarun Das. SA: in? NR: for Tarun Das. SA: haan 24 00:05:37,973 --> 00:05:42,516 NR: For Tarun Das, in your own words, what do you think needs to be done, 25 00:05:42,516 --> 00:05:54,306 NR: but no why should you tell them what should be done, otherwise they will use what has to be done and give it for your benefit na. SA: haan. NR: hmm SA: That's not that good. I mean that toh… you want me to give that? 26 00:05:54,306 --> 00:05:56,893 (pause) 27 00:05:56,893 --> 00:06:10,189 NR: Accha dekho Sunil mujhe ek kaam zaroor hai, ke, you have to -in fact Tarun Das has sent me a sms just now, which I’m just seeing now, which has come on my other phone. SA: hmm NR: He wants me to call him urgently. So it must be about this only. SA: hmm NR: Let me call him and call you back. SA: ok. NR: ok.