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Tarun Das: Hi

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Niira: Hi!

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Tarun Das: How are you?

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Niira: I'm fine. I'm looking at you son's chart.

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Tarun Das: Oh my gosh! Yeh..

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Niira: Just as well, I know how to read it no? (Giggles)

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Tarun Das: Yah! You get a chart?

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Niira: One of the hazards of being from a family which knew how to do that...(Giggles)

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Tarun Das: Right, right...

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Niira: You've learnt it as... No, I mean I spoke to myyy ehh my cousin and if you want to speak to him then he said he will speak to you...

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Tarun Das: Ok.

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Niira: Ehh.. amm.. and I can just connect the both of you... I can give you his number.

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Tarun Das: Sure...

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Niira: But he's got a good phase huh! He's got sixteen years of Jupiter!

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Tarun Das: What does that mean?

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Niira: It means very good. Its a very good phase for him, very positive. Right now since April, I know he is, even though he's moved out of a job...

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Tarun Das: Hmmmm..

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Niira: But he's got a very important planet which is Jupiter into Mercury, he'll do well!

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Tarun Das: Hmm. Huh?!.

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Niira: Ya, I think he, there's just an opportunity that will come to him... aaa...you can see that actually... it's ehh...

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Tarun Das: Hm.

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Niira: He's got a ...he's got a very...I can see very positive signs for sixteen years...at least till 2018 he's really going to be on a high and even then after that his period's quite good.

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Tarun Das: Hm. Hmm...

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Niira: Why does he want to get married?

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Tarun Das: Why doesn't he want to get?

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Niira: Hmm...

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Tarun Das: Or why does he want to get?

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Niira: No, why doesn't he?

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Tarun Das: I want him to get married...no he...i...think...

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Niira: May be he'll get married this year...

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Tarun Das: He's worried about finances I think.

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Niira: Hmm. He looks like he'll get married huh, next year.

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Tarun Das: That will be great.

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Niira: Hmm. Looks like in this fortieth year. Forty huh?

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Tarun Das: Ya, he's forty.

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Niira: Ya, he'll get married next year, by the look of things...but i'll ask aa Anup to tell you in detail...

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Tarun Das: Hm hm..

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Niira: I'm only giving my two little bit of what I can see of it...(Giggles)

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Tarun Das: Huh Hm.

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Niira: His number aa? Shall I ask him to call you?

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Tarun Das: No I'll call him, I'm going to South Africa for the two matches,

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Niira: Okay...

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Tarun Das: ...tonight, taking Aurup with me.

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Niira: Okay...

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Tarun Das: Now i'm going for the swearing in ceremony,

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Niira: Ah huh...

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Tarun Das: ...for which i've been invited...

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Niira: Right...

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Tarun Das: ...for which I've been invited without your friends from the DMK.

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Niira: Ya but you know, you please can you tell the Congress for me, please, they are listening to Dayanidhi Maran, they are talking to the wrong people. Karunanidhi doesn't even know what's going on. He gave them a list on Monday night...

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Tarun Das: Hmm...

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Niira: ...which was Dayanidhi Maran - Railways, Azhagiri - Surface,

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Tarun Das: Hmm..

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Niira: Kani - Health,

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira: Power - Baalu

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira: ...and Telecom - Raja...

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Tarun Das: Yaa..

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Niira: He knew that Power and Railways would get dropped.

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Tarun Das: Hmm

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Niira: He needed them to come back and say that I cannot give you this and this.

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira: He would have dealt with the rest of it himself. Instead Congress went into a bit of a tizzy didn't know what they were saying to him...

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Tarun Das: Hm.

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Niira: ...and it went all wrong and allowed Dayanidhi Maran to drive the bargaining and including whatever they are telling Dayanidhi Maran is not going back to Karunanidhi in its correct form.

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Tarun Das: Hmm. Hm.

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Niira: He's distorting everything that's going to him.

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Tarun Das: Hmm..

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Niira: And he's got one daughter telling him I'll commit suicide, he's got one aaa wife saying I'll do this and... so he's... that whole... if Congress had just dealt with that list they may have got away with even two members of cabinet. Because Azhagiri had agreed to be MOS independent if Dayanidhi was not made a Cabinet Minister.

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Tarun Das: Hm Hmm.

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Niira: ..But because Congress kept on... ehh...Dayanidhi kept on saying tooo... Raj - ehh...to his leader that Congress Ahmed Patel's been in touch with him and Ahmed Patel's had asked him for swearing in...when Raja... when the leader has not even authorised him to negotiate.

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Tarun Das: Hmm..

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Niira: So basically dealt it with through Kanimozhi who's been with him right through, Prime Minister also through.. spoke via her.

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira: They needed to speak to Kanimozhi and Kanimozhi would have taken them directly to her father.

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Tarun Das: Hm Hmm.

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Niira: The matter would have been resolved there. He does not want four. The only reason four are being asked is because Azhagiri cannot be an MOS when Karuna... ehh when Maran is a Cabinet Minister.

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Tarun Das: Hmm. Hm.

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Niira: So, when they offered three and Maran kept on telling them that they want him to be a Cabinet Minister.

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Tarun Das: Why don't they keep Maran out? Why do they have to have Maran?

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Niira: They... they...he he needs help from Congress a little bit on that one. Because he thinks Karuna... that Congress is supporting Maran.

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Tarun Das: Ohhk ok...

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Niira: If Congress gives him a message that we've not given any message for Maran at all..

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira: ..he will be... they would have got away with two cabinets. Because Kar...Kani and Azhagiri had both agreed that we will stick to MOS independent and Raja and Baalu can come and it doesn't matter. Or we'll bring in somebody new.

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Tarun Das: They don't want re.. he...eehh.. Manmohan Singh doesn't want Raja and Baalu.

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Niira: No, he's not said Raja, he's indicated ok about Raja to them only Baalu he doesn't want.

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Tarun Das: Baalu's of course been terrible.
Niira: Ya, he doesn't want Baalu.

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Niira: So, if somebody can relay that to Karunanidhi that they don't want Baalu he's fine with that. But Raja...has..ab ab...Karunanidhi has said about Raja very clear that I cannot leave him out because he is a Dalit.

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira: I have to keep him in and he's his closest he's not going to leave him out.

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Tarun Das: But can he be put somewhere other than Telecom

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Niira: You still have a far better....We are having Raja in Telecom because he will behave himself. Trust me, he'll behave himself.

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Tarun Das: But there're too many people against him.

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Niira: That's only the Sunil Mittal's, no?

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Tarun Das: May be but they must be lobbying...

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Niira: I've promised, no no but i've promised aa aa Raja's promised that he'll speak to Sunil Mittal and deal with the matter.

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Tarun Das: Sunil has lobbied against him I believe, I haven't talked to Sunil...

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Niira: Ya, but, ya I don't think, but he'll come in Telecom is being given to them. And eehh...I'll tell you one thing, ehh aa eehh aa...rai..aa Karunanidhi will give Telecom only to uh, Raja, he will not give it to Dayanidhi.

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Tarun Das: Hm mmm.

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Niira: He's very clear about that.

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Tarun Das: Ok. I'll talk to them. Hmm?

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Niira: Eh.. that I can assure Sunil that this not be a problem. Raja will not go against him. He needs to trust me on that one.

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Tarun Das: Okay.

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Niira: I'll take him to him and they eeh.. Sunil's been very arrogant with him as well it's not been just a one-sided...

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Tarun Das: Ya, i'm sure he has been.

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Niira: Ya, he's been extremely arrogant. If he hasn't been the way he was this problem wouldn't have arisen.

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Tarun Das: Hmm. mmm. Mmm. Ok. I will talk, I'll let you know. Hmm?

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Niira: Ya? But tell them to talk through Kanimozhi it will go directly...

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Tarun Das: Okay.

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Niira:  It will work out, ya?

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Tarun Das: Ok. Done.

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Niira: Who's, why why's Bhardwaj left out?

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Tarun Das: I was surprised to see that myself.

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Niira: Hmm.

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Tarun Das: I don't know. I don't know there's something which I don't know.

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Niira: Hm. Hmm.

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Tarun Das: Aa. I was suprised.

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Niira: But, ya, but you know aa aa, Just listen no that Karunanidhi has no great shakes about Baalu and Maran. If Congress gives him a little hint..

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira: But Congress has said to somebody else that we don't want to give Infrastructure...

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira:...to Baalu or Maran

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Tarun Das: Hmm.

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Niira: That's rightly so. They don't want...they should tell that too aa..if they say we are not pushing for Maran, Congress will drop him like a hot potato, they hate him.

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Tarun Das: Ya, they do. Hm.
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Niira: Ya, so why don't just aa...
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