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Male voice: Hi

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Nira: Hi!

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Male voice: How are you?

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Nira: I'm fine. I'm looking at you son's chart.

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Male voice: Oh my gosh! Yeh..

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Nira: (Inaudible) I know how to read it no? (Giggles)

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Male voice: Yah! You get a chart?

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Nira: One of the hazards of being from a family which knew how to do that...(Giggles)

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Male voice: Right, right...

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Nira: You've learnt it as... No, I mean I spoke to myyy ehh my cousin and if you want to speak to him then he said he will speak to you...

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Male voice: Ok.

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Nira: Ehh.. amm.. and I can just connect the both of you... I can give you his number.

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Male voice: Sure...

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Nira: But he's got a good phase huh! He's got sixteen years of Jupiter!

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Male voice: What does that mean?

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Nira: It means very good. Its a very good phase for him, very positive. Right now since April, I know he is, even though he's moved out of a job...

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Male voice: Hmmmm..

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Nira: But he's got a very important planet which is Jupiter into Mercury, he'll do well!

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Male voice: Hmm. Huh?!.

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Nira: Ya, I think he, there's just an opportunity that will come to him... aaa...you can see that actually... it's ehh...

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Male voice: Hm.

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Nira: He's got a ...he's got a very...I can see very positive signs for sixteen years...at least till 2018 he's really going to be on a high and even then after that his period's quite good.

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Male voice: Hm. Hmm...

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Nira: Why does he want to get married?

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Male voice: Why doesn't he want to get?

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Nira: Hmm...

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Male voice: Or why does he want to get?

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Nira: No, why doesn't he?

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Male voice: I want him to get married...no he...i...think...

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Nira: May be he'll get married this year...

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Male voice: He's worried about finances I think.

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Nira: Hmm. He looks like he'll get married huh, next year.

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Male voice: That will be great.

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Nira: Hmm. Looks like in this fortieth year. Forty huh?

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Male voice: Ya, he's forty.

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Nira: Ya, he'll get married next year, by the look of things...but i'll ask aa Anup to tell you in detail...

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Male voice: Hm hm..

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Nira: I'm only giving my two little bit of what I can see of it...(Giggles)

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Male voice: Huh Hm.

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Nira: His number aa? Shall I ask him to call you?

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Male voice: No I'll call him, I'm going to South Africa for the two matches,

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Nira: Okay...

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Male voice: ...tonight, taking Aurup with me.

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Nira: Okay...

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Male voice: Now i'm going for the swearing in ceremony,

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Nira: Ah huh...

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Male voice: ...for which i've been invited...

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Nira: Right...

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Male voice: ...for which I've been invited without your friends from the DMK.

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Nira: Ya but you know, you please can you tell the Congress for me, please, they are listening to Dayanidhi Maran, they are talking to the wrong people. Karunanidhi doesn't even know what's going on. He gave them a list on Monday night...

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Male voice: Hmm...

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Nira: ...which was Dayanidhi Maran - Railways, Azhagiri - Surface,

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Male voice: Hmm..

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Nira: Kani - Health,

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Nira: Power - Balu

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Nira: ...and Telecom - Raja...

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Male voice: Yaa..

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Nira: He knew that Power and Railways would get dropped.

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Male voice: Hmm

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Nira: He needed them to come back and say that I cannot give you this and this.

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Nira: He would have dealt with the rest of it himself. Instead Congress went into a bit of a tizzy didn't know what they were saying to him...

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Male voice: Hm.

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Nira: ...and it went all wrong and allowed Dayanidhi Maran to drive the bargaining and including whatever they are telling Dayanidhi Maran is not going back to Karunanidhi in its correct form.

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Male voice: Hmm. Hm.

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Nira: He's distorting everything that's going to him.

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Male voice: Hmm..

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Nira: And he's got one daughter telling him I'll commit suicide, he's got one aaa wife saying I'll do this and... so he's... that whole... if Congress had just dealt with that list they may have got away with even two members of cabinet. Because Azhagiri had agreed to be MOS independent if Dayanidhi was not made a Cabinet Minister.

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Male voice: Hm Hmm.

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Nira: ..But because Congress kept on... ehh...Dayanidhi kept on saying tooo... Raj - ehh...to his leader that Congress Ahmed Patel's been in touch with him and Ahmed Patel's had asked him for swearing in...when Raja... when the leader has not even authorised him to negotiate.

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Male voice: Hmm..

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Nira: So basically dealt it with through Kanimozhi who's been with him right through, Prime Minister also through.. spoke via her.

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Nira: They needed to speak to Kanimozhi and Kanimozhi would have taken them directly to her father.

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Male voice: Hm Hmm.

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Nira: The matter would have been resolved there. He does not want four. The only reason four are being asked is because Azhagiri cannot be an MOS when Karuna... ehh when Maran is a Cabinet Minister.

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Male voice: Hmm. Hm.

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Nira: So, when they offered three and Maran kept on telling them that they want him to be a Cabinet Minister.

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Male voice: Why don't they keep Maran out? Why do they have to have Maran?

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NIra: They... they...he he needs help from Congress a little bit on that one. Because he thinks Karuna... that Congress is supporting Maran.

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Male voice: Ohhk ok...

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Nira: If Congress gives him a message that we've not given any message for Maran at all..

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Nira: ..he will be... they would have got away with two cabinets. Because Kar...Kani and Azhagiri had both agreed that we will stick to MOS independent and Raja and Balu can come and it doesn't matter. Or we'll bring in somebody new.

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Male voice: They don't want re.. he...eehh.. Manmohan Singh doesn't want Raja and Balu.

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Nira: No, he's not said Raja, he's indicated ok about Raja to them only Balu he doesn't want.

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Male voice: Balu's of course been terrible.

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Nira: So, if somebody can relay that to Karunanidhi that they don't want Balu he's fine with that. But Raja...has..ab ab...Karunanidhi has said about Raja very clear that I cannot leave him out because he is a Dalit.

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Nira: I have to keep him in and he's his closest he's not going to leave him out.

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Male voice: But can he be put somewhere other than Telecom

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Nira: You still have a far better....We are having Raja in Telecom because he will behave himself. Trust me, he'll behave himself.

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Male voice: But there're too many people against him.

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Nira: That's only the Sunil Mittal's, no?

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Male voice: May be but they must be lobbying...

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Nira: I've promised, no no but i've promised aa aa Raja's promised that he'll speak to Sunil Mittal and deal with the matter.

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Male voice: Sunil has lobbied against him I believe, I haven't talked to Sunil...

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Nira: Ya, but, ya I don't think, but he'll come in Telecom is being given to them. And eehh...I'll tell you one thing, ehh aa eehh aa...rai..aa Karunanidhi will give Telecom only to uh, Raja, he will not give it to Dayanidhi.

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Male voice: Hm mmm.

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Nira: He's very clear about that.

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Male voice: Ok. I'll talk to them. Hmm?

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Nira: Eh.. that I can assure Sunil that this not be a problem. Raja will not go against him. He needs to trust me on that one.

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Male voice: Okay.

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Nira: I'll take him to him and they eeh.. Sunil's been very arrogant with him as well it's not been just a one-sided...

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Male voice: Ya, i'm sure he has been.

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Nira: Ya, he's been extremely arrogant. If he hasn't been the way he was this problem wouldn't have arisen.

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Male voice: Hmm. mmm. Mmm. Ok. I will talk, I'll let you know. Hmm?

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Nira: Ya? But tell them to talk through Kanimuri it will go directly...

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Male voice: Okay.

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Nira:  It will work out, ya?

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Male voice: Ok. Done.

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Nira: Who's, why why's Bhardwaj left out?

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Male voice: I was surprised to see that myself.

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Nira: Hmm.

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Male voice: I don't know. I don't know there's something which I don't know.

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Nira: Hm. Hmm.

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Nira: Aa. I was suprised.

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Nira: But, ya, but you know aa aa, Just listen no that Karunanidhi has no great shakes about Balu and Maran. If Congress gives him a little hint..

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Nira: But Congress has said to somebody else that we don't want to give Infrastructure...

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Male voice: Hmm.

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Nira:...to Balu or Maran

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Male voice:Hmm.

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Nira: That's rightly so. They don't want...they should tell that too aa..if they say we are not pushing for Maran, Congress will drop him like a hot potato, they hate him.

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Male voice: Ya, they do. Hm.
(Tape ends)

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Nira: Ya, so why don't just aa...
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