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(phone rings)

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SA: Hello?
NR: Sunil, hi.
SA: <i>Haanji</i>?
NR: I'm sorry, I've been so caught up in my court case <i>na</i>...

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SA: <I>Nahin nahin, koi baat nahin...</i> (No, no problem)
NR: <I>Achha</i> listen, they have approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee...
SA: Yes, I found out...

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NR: Yeah, no, yesterday I spoke to him, he's in Israel right now. He said he's not- I told him I have to send him a note as to what's been going on over the last five years,
SA: hmm
NR: ...and why. But I think he is going to meet the Prime Minister.
SA: hmm

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NR: Because I don't,... He is not going to do it.
SA: hmm
NR: I said because the only reason they are asking you to do this is because they want you to ratify all the deals that they have done. And all the...
SA: That's right, that's right. Exactly
NR: Yeah, so they want credibiliity and all that.

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NR: So he said- I told him I'd speak to you,
SA: hmm
NR: - he said can you ask Sunil to give me a 5-7 page letter
SA: hmm
NR: which spells out what has been going on,
SA: hmm
NR: so that when I meet Prime Minister-

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SA: When is he meeting Prime Minister?
NR: When he comes back. He is meeting him on Saturday. He is coming back on Friday
SA: <i>Haan</i> (Okay)
NR: and he'll take(?) time next week.
SA: <i>Theek hai</i> (Okay)

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NR: So he says if you ask him to send me a note,
SA: hmm
NR: which tells me exactly what's been going on,
SA: hmm
NR: and what is the thing. And I've spoken to him about you.

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NR: Tarun Das is speaking about you, by the way, to Prime Minister, as soon as he comes back from his G8
SA: hmm

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W: <i>Woh maine toh, aaa, sab... de diya usko</i>... (I gave it all to him)

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NR: because Tarun himself has said that I wanted Sunil to become the CII DG.

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NR: So.. uh.. He was he was pretty keen and Baijal <i>ka</i> meeting Friday <i>ko hai</i> D.K. Nair <i>ke saath</i>. (Baijal's meeting with DK Nair is on Friday)
SA: hmm
NR: <I>toh</i>.. the umm.. they’re all.. I think everyone is in agreement now.

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NR: Jojo, ('Jojo' - Jaideep Bose)
SA: hmm
NR: -from Times of India is going to run a complete 2 page story on how they’ve destroyed Air India.
SA: <i>haan</i>
NR: <i>Toh,uske liye</i> (And for that...) he knows you quiet well Jojo,he says he’s met you a few times.
SA: off the head <i>dhyaan nahin hai</i>. (I don't know)
NR: Toh, jojo is telling me- Jojo is the Editor-in-Chief at Times Group na.
SA: No no, I know about him, but
NR: <i>haan</i>
SA: may be once or twice I’ve met. <i>Mujhe</i> off-hand <i>dhyaan nahin hai. haan</i>..

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NR: So he’s going to probably send someone across to you, or if you are going to be in Delhi. now, He’s in Bombay though.
S: <i>haan</i>
NR: so who ever is going to write that story, whichever journalist is going to do it.... But they’re going to do a massive thing as to how Air India has been raped. They’re...
SA: hmm

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SA: So When i write for Mr. Ratan Tata,
NR: hmm
SA: do I also mention that uh.. I mean it is note from him. But do I also mention one third person that it is understood that..., there are 2 major issues now- Out 5-6 major issues there 2 issues a) Air India Express.
NR: hmm
SA: On Air India Express, as a Board member, I had raised a series of issues. Officially.
NR: hmm

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SA: So can I just write the sentence like,- “one of the board members has brought these things to.. the discussion...board”- or what..? I would not like to show that much, this thing.

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NR: No I think you should put it down. I think you should write him a note that you’re writing to, uh,... is that he will read and he will then translate in whichever way he wants to translate and send it.
SA: Hmm
NR: You understand na.
SA: <i>Haan haan. Theek hai…Theek hai</i>. 
NR: Thats the way it will be.
SA: <i>haan</i>.
NR: yeah.

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SA: Bilateral <i>toh</i> I will have to check the recent information.
NR: Bilateral, <i>woh woh woh</i>.. airline deals, the aircraft deals… all that.
SA: Yeah yeah 5-6 things na. One is aircraft deal,
NR: hmm
SA: other is bilateral. Other is Air India Express.
NR: hmm

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SA: Other is …this sale and lease back of aircraft. On sale and lease back of aircraft again, it all happened after I left.
NR:  hmm.
SA: So I would only, I would also know…sketchy details... but I’ll kind of, try to take assistance of one or two people… who have retired. I know one who has retired who is in touch with me… he used to be in planning.. Though I’ll not tell him the purpose ofcourse.
NR: hmm
SA: Hmm

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SA: Vijay Kumar used to be in planning.
NR: hmm
SA: That too planning- and he was dealing with these things and he had been putting up small-small notes. Anyway, I’ll make it. Because obviously, he’ll meet him only when Prime Minister returns from Italy.

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NR: And I also want to offline give him the details <i>joh tumne bheji thi na, pura</i> dossier.
SA: hmm
NR: <i>Woh toh main doongi na usko</i>.
SA: That’s my letter to Cabinet Secretary
NR: For his own information na.
SA: Eh? No, that i can give you yeah, with you I have no issues.

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SA: The issue is that it remains with him, and he destroys it after reading it.
NR: Hmm?!
SA: My letter to Cabinet Secretary,
NR: hmm
SA: he can read and then destroy it.
NR: <i>Haan</i>, I’ll have to give it to him and he’ll destroy it. Naturally, he’s not going to.. He needs to have a background <i>ke</i> what the hell are they asking him to do na.
SA: <i>Haan</i>, then I’ll send the letter. I have the letter

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NR: You tell me when everything is done, I’ll send someone to pick it up.
SA: <i>Haan</i>.
NR: I also need, separately, ((SMS alert tone)) in your own words.. for Tarun Das.
SA: in?
NR: for Tarun Das.
SA: <i>haan</i>

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NR: For Tarun Das, in your own words, what do you think needs to be done,

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NR: but no why should you tell them what should be done, otherwise they will use what has to be done and give it for your benefit na.
SA: <i>haan</i>.
NR:  hmm
SA: That's not that good. I mean that toh… you want me to give that?

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NR: <i>Accha dekho</i> Sunil <i>mujhe ek kaam zaroor hai, ke</i>, you have to -in fact Tarun Das has sent me a sms just now, which I’m just seeing now, which has come on my other phone.
SA: hmm
NR: He wants me to call him urgently. So it must be about this only.
SA: hmm
NR: Let me call him and call you back.
SA: ok.
NR: ok.

