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(Phone Ringing.)

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Nira: Hi Bittu!
Bittu: Hi! How are you?
Nira: I am fine. How are you?
Bittu: Did you get my SMS?

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Nira: No!
Bittu: <i>Arrey</i>! I sent an SMS to you.

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Nira: No! I have got no SMS from you.
Bittu: Basically I am told that ICICI Bank account has come to you.

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Nira: No I have not even pitched for it so how can it come to me?

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Bittu: No, no, I'Il tell you between me and you, I met someone internally there.
Nira: <i>Haan</i> (Yes)! But it's not true.
Bittu: And...

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Nira: I haven't even met them Biju.
Bittu: Ahh! Then they will ask you actually.

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Nira: It is not like we have not been called. They have been keen to talk to us but I just...
Bittu: Ahh! That means my information is right.

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Nira: No but I have not even met them yet so it can't be coming to us yet na?

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Bittu: Oh! <i>Acha, acha</i>! Because what I had heard from from top people is that they are very keen actually.

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Bittu: That is why I send an SMS to you another feather in your cap ICICI Bank account.
Nira: No I never got. I never got it.

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Bittu: Oh <i>acha</i>! Sorry, sorry. Because I send it to you immediately when I got that...

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Nira: Honestly, honestly I would have... You know how I respond to you straight away if I get a message.
Bittu: No, no, see! What happened, there was a conversation happened.

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Nira: Hmm!
Bittu: And then they said that how, then I told them, I mean they have done a fabulous job for Tata and now they are doing it for Reliance so then they said yaa, yaa.

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Bittu: Then we will. I saw basically already internally they have decided.
Nira: Hmm!

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Bittu: And then I got the impression like that, that is why I send an SMS. Otherwise I would told you that they are talking to you.

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Nira: Hmm! Because they have got... They are with AD Factors no?

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Bittu: Ahh! That I think that they want somebody else and it can be Delhi this thing and all. <i>Kuch</i> clout <i>chahiye </i> ( Some clout is needed.) That is what I heard.

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Nira: They need people who have got...They have got their own clout no? Why do they need others?

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Bittu: No, <i> nahi... </i> (No...) ... new CEO wants new clout and all actually.
Nira: Ehuh! Ehuh!

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Bittu: That is why that thing came up actually. This is strictly between me and you aa! Please!
Nira: No, no, ofcourse, ofcourse.

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Bittu: Because I was there when you got the first account of Tata's that is why I am telling you that. 
Nira: (Laughs.)

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Bittu: So I just thought that, then I said I, what I could do I also told them that they have... I didn't say I said like this that they have done a fabulous job for Tata's.

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Nira: Hmm!
Bittu: So Reliance also, that is why Mukesh Ambani normally doesn't give any outside PR. They have got that.

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Nira: Hmm!
Bittu: So they said yaa, we will... The way they were talking is that they will call you or something like that actually.

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Nira: Yaa, I know they have been... I mean they have been saying that we should meet but you know I have been so caught up and then our dates were never meeting so may be that is why...

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Bittu: Oh! <i>Acha, acha</i>!
Nira: They fact that I have not even them first. So I wouldn't say that I have got it.
Bittu: Oh! <i>Acha, acha</i>! So then they must be internally thinking about it actually.
Nira: Hmm!

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Bittu: Because what impression I got, that is why I came out of that building and then SMSed to you another feather in the cap ICICI Bank account.

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Bittu: Then I didn't get an SMS. Then I thought that...
Nira: No, no, no. I didn't get your SMS. I would have responded to you straight away you know that.

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Bittu: Ok, ok, ok! Anyway I think that you are on their radar.
Nira: (Laughs). Ok that is nice to know. That is nice to know. How are you? How are things?

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Bittu: I am fine. How do you like... There is a change in the Tata's this thing now?

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Nira: Yes I think so. I think so. There is a big change, yaa!
Bittu: So that is why I told you that you should speak to Subuma.
Nira: Hmm!

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Bittu: I think you had a meeting with him no?

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Nira: No, I had a meeting with him. I meet Rajiv Verma and Shobna and everyone. So we dealt with it in terms of what were the issues. So yaa, there is a change.

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Bittu: Ok. Yaa, that is why. That is why I told you if you talk to them directly then there will be much more change actually because I don't think they will be going after people or something like that. We don't believe in that actually.

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Nira: Well I don't know. I mean, you know. There is a tendency sometimes. Atleast against RIL there is still not a change.

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Bittu: But I think. I don't think so. Basically that episode is over. Taking that pamphlet and writing it that thing is over. It will be more check and balances actually now. Hmm!

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Nira: Yaa because that one thing I had insisted with Rajiv Verma, because Buma was going all over the place no? Buma and Kushbu. 
Bittu: Hmm!

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Nira: You know that. 
Bittu: See basically they should stop this taking lease and then writing it actually infact I was telling Manoj actually.

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Nira: Hmm!
Bittu: Unless we stop it. Then I said that I wanted to meet PMS. He said they will expect a this thing kind of a story actually.

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Bittu: I said see boss. <i> Eisa nahi karega...</i> (We won't do it like this...) that we will ask some questions. He will answer. We will put it actually.

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Nira: Hmm! Hmm! We'll do a meeting with you and PMS. I have been telling Manoj that that needs to be done. The Bombay meetings need to happen. So...

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Bittu: Yaa! Whatever. It's... Whenever he is available. Not to rush it.
Nira: Hmm!

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Bittu: But whenever he is available we would like to spend atleast one hour with him so we can have a full fledged interview.

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Bittu: He can tell us what he wants to say and all. Then we can put it as a quote and...
Nira: But you know we are right now in court so a lot of the matter is sub judice actually.

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Bittu: No, no, let the court thing be over.
Nira: Hmm!

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Bittu: And say<i> aaram se... </i> (at a relaxed pace...) Whenever he is very comfortable to speak.
Nira: Right, right because...
Bittu: I am not rushing.

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Nira: Because this thing has gone a bit out of control. I mean if you think about it.
Bittu: Yaa!

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Nira: I mean I can't understand that how a country's national assets can be just divided up between a family you know. 
Bittu: Yaa! (Laughs.)

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Nira: I said this to Mukesh also. I mean it is very unfortunate <i>na</i>?

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Bittu: Hmm! And also someone is... I think there is some....people are feeling up because I heard from some people that they had filed a PIL against this and all. National asset is...

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Nira: I am sure people will. I am sure people will file and I am sure people will get fed up. There are enough people out there.

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Nira: Everyone I go to keeps on telling me the same. But the thing is, you know even the MOU. 
Bittu: Hmm!

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Nira: It was subject to government approval.
Bittu: That is right.

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Nira: So you know, you can't say that give me everything for 50% discount no?
Bittu: Hmm! Hmm!
Nira: I mean the price was never in the MOU.

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Bittu: Ahh haa! haa!
Nira: So all this you know, you can't... You just can't cheat you way all the way, you know. All the time.

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Nira: All the time there is the same thing that I am the underdog. I am the younger brother. I should be given something different. You know. That is not good.

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Bittu: Hmm! That sentiments. He is playing around those. And also that he should concentrate on the... I mean not because of... See power projects and all he should do <i>na</i>.

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Nira: He should develop the... you know, Baiju he is...( Unclear)...
Bittu: He has got. He raised 10 billion dollars in 2007. 5 billion dollars ACB. 2.5 billion IPO. Then another 2.5 billion dollars.

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Nira: Now if you tell me 10 billion dollars in funds. He is still asking the court for a bankruptcy agreement. 
Bittu: Hmm!

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Nira: ...(Unclear).
Bittu: That is true and also that I am told that he is talking to hawk Reliance Communication also.

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Nira: He is trying to sell it to AT&T no? 
Bittu: Ahh! That is what I heard actually.

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Nira: But between you and me they will come for a ROFR. I have been getting feelers from AT&T. 
Bittu: Yaa! Because...

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Nira: That you know why doesn't Mukesh not come in the way. My view is very clear that the question doesn't arise.

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Nira: You know. Bijju I just got PMS on the line can you give me two minutes ill call you back?
Bittu: Yaa! Yaa! <i> Aram se...</i> (Relax) Whenever you get time.
(Tape ends.)

