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Pal pal pal pal...(Phone rings)

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Niira Radia: Hi.
Vir Sanghvi: Hi, can you talk?

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Niira Radia: Hi.
Vir Sanghvi: Can you talk?

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Niira Radia: Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Vir Sanghvi: No, Maran did not meet Sonia.
Niira Radia: He didn't, no? They've gone around telling everybody...

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Vir Sanghvi: He's not met Sonia, he's been, they have refused, they're not treating him as official spokesperson at all. He called..., I saw your message, he is nonstop calling up Ghulam Nabi Azad every half an hour and making new demands and all that.

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Vir Sanghvi: As far as we're concerned there is two wives, one brother, one sister, one nephew it's all got very complicated for us. We've made a basic offer, if Karunanidhi responds to us and tells us that he would like to respond directly, he would like to talk to Ms. Gandhi.

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Vir Sanghvi: He spoke only to Manmohan Singh. We would be more than happy but we're not going to chase them now. We've told Maran that also they have to come back to us and tell us what they think of our offer. And apparently the DMK is getting very bad press in Chennai?
Niira Radia: Mm-hmm.

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Vir Sanghvi: So, he said we're going to wait for two days. Let them come back, we are of the line that this is not a Congress- DMK problem, this is an internal DMK problem because they can't get their act together between all his wives and children and nephews and all of that.

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Vir Sanghvi: He's got to get his act together and nominate one person and we would be very happy to deal with him. We are not happy with this Maran who keeps calling up Ghulam Nabi and saying talk to me, talk to me. They are not taking him seriously.

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Niira Radia: Very interesting. I'm glad of - you spoke to Ghulam Nabi, is it?
Vir Sanghvi: I spoke to Ahmed.

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Niira Radia: Ahmed <i>achha</i>.
Vir Sanghvi: Ghulam Nabi is not very key figure, Ahmed is the key figure.

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Niira Radia: Right, right, right.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. So, Ahmed he says Ghulam has been dealing with Maran. But Ghulam is not our official person and we're not taking Maran seriously. As far as we're concerned they've asked for five crucial ministries, they've asked for five crucial ministries, it's an idiotic and unreasonable demand.

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Vir Sanghvi: We've made them a perfectly reasonable demand. Now, it is for Karunanidhi to get back to us, Kanni come and see us, anyone can come and see us and say I'll put you on the line with my father et cetera, lines are, doors are open to her. But we can't have a situation where Maran keeps calling us and saying I'm the person and telling Ghulam, I want this, I want that, who is Maran?

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Niira Radia: Mm-hmm. 
Vir Sanghvi: Maran has gone back apparently today to Chennai?
Niira Radia: Yeah. He has gone back, yeah. I'll tell him to call back.

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Vir Sanghvi: He says, we told him - we told Maran also that we'll deal with Karunanidhi, so he has gone back. So, they are quite hopeful they say, we made a very reasonable offer, we've lot of regards for Karunanidhi, we would like to deal with him. We have no regard for Maran.

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Niira Radia: Okay. That's interesting.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah.

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Niira Radia: I better tell them this.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Anything further, I mean, just let me know and I'll take it further.

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Niira Radia: Okay, great. And...
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. And 1:30 tomorrow, you know...

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Niira Radia: ...we meet 1:30, 1:30 yeah, yeah.
Vir Sanghvi: Yeah. Yeah. See you then, bye, bye.

