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Radia: Hi, hi, I am sorry we have not been able to connect. How are you?
NKS: Hi. How are you?
Radia: I am very well.

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NKS: Hehehe. Lot of fun and games no?
Radia: Isn't it.. yes yes.. isn't it.. What does it look like? What do you think of the new cabinet?

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NKS: Okay, It's a bit of what in Hindi, I can't explain to you there's a particular proverb in Hindi, which says 'Shivji Ki Baraat'.

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NKS: Means (sic) the <i>baraat</i> (wedding procession) of Shivji consisted of many varieties and many species from scorpions, serpents to elephants to tame deer.. so this is a bit of a jumbo staff, which would have to be seen..

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NKS: ...by and large conventional wisdom has prevailed in giving the key department to the old and trusted. 
Radia: Yes...
NKS: Some surprise elements..

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NKS: ...a spectacular jump for Anand Sharma.
Radia: Yeah, what do you make of that?

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NKS: I am still puzzled. I am still puzzled because I knew he was close to 10, Janpath but in the meantime he had done a lot to cultivate PM, personally.

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NKS: PMO, hanging around Nayar's room.. PM.. and in the I&B.. when he was given.. you know he was in touch with the PMO with the projection, which he believes has paid off in terms of a strategy. So this is.. I mean you know I still.. I don't think I have been able to say the last word on this.

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NKS: The other thing is, the spectacular decline of Kamal Nath. 
Radia: Yes
NKS: That I explained .. and by the way to make matters worse for him, even shipping has been taken away. 
Radia: Yeah Vasan's got that, yeah.

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NKS: Vasan's got that which means he just literally left - he's on the road. 
Radia: Yeah he is literally on the road.

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NKS: So.. well, you can always hide it by saying that highways are after all one black point of the government and they want to make up with it. But, I think there is much more than meets the eye.

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NKS: And I think that you know a lot of the stuff which you and I know was going on, somehow got noticed and reported and some way it is supposed to also give a signal.

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NKS: That perhaps it has been overdone.. I mean, whatever. And the fact that also Baalu was kept out of the Roads.

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Radia: But that is more of Karunanidhi's decision because of all the pressure from his family.

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NKS: Ya, but on the other hand even if he would have come, he would not have gone back to the same charge of Roads. 
Radia: Of course not..

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NKS: So I think in Kamal Nath's case it's clear indication that look, enough is enough. I don't think right now he needs another ATM. He has one going for many years. And there's enough for him. So that's the other thing.

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NKS: Jyothir Aditya has made it good, getting MoS. He didn't make it to an independent charge, but he has got pretty important thing in corner for the industry... with a young man, Anand Sharma to work with.

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NKS: And so.. good for Jyotir. I think it's an opportunity to do a lot, because it's a big charge. You know I have been in that ministry it's a big charge.

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NKS: If WTO gathers momentum.. though not this year because WTO doesn't only depend on us.. it depends on..
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